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Rick_a
Posted on Saturday, August 03, 2013 - 01:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My wife decided we should get a house. It has a long backyard. First thing that came to mind is that it'd make a perfect airgun range. Having no magnum airguns, it was a must.

So, I now have one of these:


I don't have a picture of mine as the stock was damaged in shipping and it's in pieces to repair the stock and do some modifications.

I've actually been waiting about 20 years to get something like this. All the firearms I wanted had to come first.

A scope and mount are coming next week. Hopefully I'll have it ready by then.

The company it came from had it for almost half the regular price. Since it is no longer in stock I can't return it. So, I am preparing a claim through the shipper. That's always a good time.

While I was at it I got a rebuild kit for my twenty something year old Crosman .357.

With new guts it shoots like new again. The folks at Crosman are polite, helpful, and speak good English. That's tough to find these days.

Last will be a full auto CO2 UZI BB gun. I can't resist.

Having a backyard range is awesome, even if it is limited to BB and pellet guns to keep the neighbors neighborly.

These are others I've had for about as long which have come out of semi-retirement:




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86129squids
Posted on Saturday, August 03, 2013 - 10:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Fun stuff!

When I was a kid I had a 16BB shot automatic CO2 pistol, had lots of fun with that thing!
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Zenbiker
Posted on Saturday, August 03, 2013 - 05:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Nice, looks like an RWS 48. I have shot them and they are heavy as heck, but throw a pellet for quite a distance. Be careful with the side cocking mechanism, they are known to break if not pulled straight back.
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Whisperstealth
Posted on Saturday, August 03, 2013 - 07:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Nice, have fun! I've always enjoyed plinking and having fun with bb guns and air rifles. That rifle will probably shoot right through the wooden fence.
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Blake
Posted on Saturday, August 03, 2013 - 08:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What is it? Magnum you say?
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Kenm123t
Posted on Saturday, August 03, 2013 - 09:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Blake you need to discover the world of ADULT air guns near 22 rim performance Whoo HOO
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Strokizator
Posted on Saturday, August 03, 2013 - 09:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm toying with the idea of picking up a .22 air rifle with noise suppressor. It ought to be deadly on the ground squirrels infesting my property.

BTW, I have a 1963 vintage Daisy CO2 200 pistol with a chipped piercing pin. I'd love to get it working again if anyone knows of a source.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Saturday, August 03, 2013 - 10:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have several for basement and garage, they are great cheap fun.
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Aesquire
Posted on Saturday, August 03, 2013 - 10:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Daisy should still have parts for that.

Crossman is right down the road from me, and they still support some real old stuff. They make a good product for the price. ( not always true of Chinese air guns ) Great folk. ( with Turnbull right down the road for the serious metal art stuff, Winchester 1800's rifles, etc. )

For varmints, the 1000 fps model barrel cocking spring guns are fine, for casual plinking, I suggest one in the 650 fps range. Lots less fatigue in a long session, and easier on target backstops.

Keep in mind the advertising number, 1000 fps, 1200 fps, etc. is with light alloy pellets and not lead ones.

It's a whole world of it's own.

I'm between pellet guns right now, ( gave all weapons away for Christmas, in advance of the NY SAFE Act Constitution cancellation )

Now looking at a .22 with suppressor for target & varmint. ( Mice ate my car, Again. ) I'll probably go with a Gamo Whisper to start, but am thinking a pre-charged for later.

Rick_a, Nice selection.
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Rick_a
Posted on Sunday, August 04, 2013 - 01:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks, all, for the input.

It is an RWS 48. My plan is to make this out of it, though with no iron sights:

It's their 12" barrel carbine which has been a Euro only gun.

According the Airgun Digest, A "magnum" airgun is one that exceeds 820 fps in .177 and 630 fps in .22 cal with lead pellets. Many of the higher quality guns are capable of shooting half inch groups at fifty yards.

This one is known for having the accuracy of much higher priced guns, without all the frills, while having a bit more power. At first I set my sights on a loftier goal...but after realizing that it would set me back about 1K with an optic I got back to a more reasonable choice.

This was the temptress:

The Air Arms TX200 Hunter Carbine. Arguably the best spring piston airgun that's ever been made.

This RWS is the one I've wanted since a young lad, so finding it at a price that was a complete steal by accident one night just sealed it. The wrath of wife was narrowly avoided as a scope I had for sale for nearly two months sold the next day. It doesn't get luckier than that. My cost of the rifle/scope/mount combo was only $3 over that sale. The weight doesn't bother me as most of my rifles weigh over eight lbs.

I even got the kid this little Daisy:

It's the only thing with a stock he can shoulder and the action is light enough for cocking and easy enough to operate that he can handle it on his own. He was knocking over cans at 15 yards right off the bat.

With my claim money I (hopefully) plan on purchasing this for tin can killing fun:


Strok, a suppressor isn't necessary on spring-air guns. Only on the more powerful unshrouded PCP's (precharged pneumatics).

Aesquire, look into the Gamo CFR. It's the best thing they're making and the only one I'd even consider.
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Rick_a
Posted on Sunday, August 04, 2013 - 01:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


quote:

That rifle will probably shoot right through the wooden fence.



That's at our old place. This one is backed by woods and a back fence opens to another narrow clearing with a decent berm behind it. Like I said, first thing I thought stepping back there is that it would make a perfect range. I've probably got about 35 yards to play with or more. With a little more work I could probably get another ten yards out of it.

I did do a little shooting at the old place, but I only had a max of ten yards to play with. I have a pellet trap that kept the fence and neighbors safe. No such worries here.
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99savage
Posted on Sunday, August 04, 2013 - 11:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Good thread

Have a Beeman R-9, from the bench, puts every shot thru the same hole but being a break barrel can't put a sling on it which makes it an off-hand proposition only. - Don't get a break barrel if paper perforation is your game

Have a Daisy 177, for a cheap consumer product has a really good trigger pull and is hyper accurate but can catch the pellets in my hand. - Would send it in for a rebuild if I knew where to send it
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Buellish
Posted on Sunday, August 04, 2013 - 05:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Rick,what is the long gun just below the Gamo pistol?
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Rick_a
Posted on Sunday, August 04, 2013 - 05:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That's a nickel finish Benjamin/Sheridan S397.

It's lightweight, compact, and accurate for a multi-stroke pneumatic, but pumping it up gets old when doing a lot of shooting.

It's got an SKS rubber stock adapter on the grip and a Williams peep sight. I use it as my iron sight practice gun, and for the occasional pest control.
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Rick_a
Posted on Sunday, August 04, 2013 - 05:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


quote:

Have a Daisy 177, for a cheap consumer product has a really good trigger pull and is hyper accurate but can catch the pellets in my hand. - Would send it in for a rebuild if I knew where to send it



This would be a good start:
http://www.daisy.com/contactus

That R9 is a very well regarded rifle.

My stock repair supplies were picked up today. The fun begins.
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99savage
Posted on Sunday, August 04, 2013 - 08:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)




From a bench the R-9 puts them all thru the same hole.







Outstanding trigger pull but the next time I get an air rifle will opt for something I can use a NRA type sling on.
Have kind of cheapish optics on mine (BSA) but heap plenty good. - Whatever optics you get get something with adjustable parallax

Gave the wrong nomenclature for the Daisy, its a Model 717, not a Model 177.




Very good trigger pull, very accurate - C'py rear sight & awfully heavy for one hand bulls eye shooting - but for the price you can't go wrong

BTW Most airguns will not give a humane kill on a woodchuck. Energy is much less than a CB cap
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Rick_a
Posted on Monday, August 05, 2013 - 12:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

When I purchased the Gamo match pistol that Daisy was considered. I went Gamo due to it being lighter, more compact, and liking the overall design better. The Daisy does have a good reputation for accuracy.

My stock is now fixed. The final coat of finish goes on tomorrow. For a first time attempt it went incredibly well. Materials for the repair cost $20 (glue, sandpaper brass screws, stain and varnish). The screws were probably not entirely necessary, but they do give me piece of mind, and gives it some character. The heads are cut off with the remaining screw shafts finished flush with the stock. The screws are epoxied as well.

The scope should get here in a day or two. When it's all together and test fired I'll post a pic or two.
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Bads1
Posted on Monday, August 05, 2013 - 01:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Wow memories. I used to work at Benjamin Air Rifle back in the 80's and early 90's.
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S2t_bama
Posted on Tuesday, August 06, 2013 - 11:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I still have a Sheridan. Need to figure out how to put optics on it one of these days.
Bads, were Sheridan and Benjamin really separate? It's hard to believe since they look so much alike. BTW, I got some repair parts from them while you were there. Great customer service!
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Rick_a
Posted on Wednesday, August 07, 2013 - 02:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

There's this:
http://centerpoint.crosman.com/accessories/B272
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99savage
Posted on Wednesday, August 07, 2013 - 08:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Rick_a
There's this:
http://centerpoint.crosman.com/accessories/B272

OK for CO2 or pneumatic but not for a spring gun.
Spring guns beat the optics worse than your 300 Win mag ever will and those mounts are held only by friction
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Mr_grumpy
Posted on Wednesday, August 07, 2013 - 09:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Aesquire, re the car-eating mice. Much of the foam & insulation in modern vehicles is vegetable oil based to reach recycling standards it's attractive to rodents.

They ate an 8" diameter hole in the underbonnet insulation of wifey's Ford while we were on vacation last year.

I've been told that a good spray of WD40 or similar mineral oil, works as a repellent.

I've got a Webley air pistol in .177 which is the same as the Beeman.

It'll scare stuff away but slugs just bounce off pigeons (if you're lucky enough to hit one).
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Rick_a
Posted on Wednesday, August 07, 2013 - 11:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

99 Savage, the Sheridan discussed is a multi-stroke pneumatic. As you know they are completely recoil-less.

For springers I am well aware of optic and mount requirements.

Grumpy, I have taken some birds with my Tempest but pellet selection and range are critical.

I have attempted the same with the Crosman 357 and had the same result as you with the Webley regardless of projectile choice or distance.
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Bads1
Posted on Wednesday, August 07, 2013 - 01:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Bama,

Actually years ago Sheridan was its own company in Racine Wi. Some years later in the 80's it was bought by Benjamin Air Rifle.The two guns were assembled on the same line different day but all under one roof. Accuracy was always better with the Benjamin on firing range.
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Pwnzor
Posted on Wednesday, August 07, 2013 - 01:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've got one for varmint control.... don't have a picture of my actual weapon but this is the same one. Beeman S1000. It knocks down a jackrabbit with a single shot anywhere above the shoulder.

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Rick_a
Posted on Thursday, August 08, 2013 - 01:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm down to my last coat or two on the stock. It's finally to the point where it isn't completely sucking up the oil. If I had known it would be this much work I would not have embarked on the endeavor. That said, it looks amazing so far. Next week I should finally be shooting this thing.

While waiting I went ahead and added a few drops of chamber oil and spring oil as it was bone dry.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Thursday, August 08, 2013 - 11:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I got a Mexican made .177 spring air rifle for $50 at a Camp Perry flea market.

Not the best trigger, but a much better gun than I expected, and it is stupidly powerful. One of my kids killed a squirrel at 25 feet with it.

It smokes after every shot, I think it's actually igniting the charge. Which I'm sure is bad for something in the gun, but it makes it more fun.
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Chauly
Posted on Thursday, August 08, 2013 - 11:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Reep:
"Diesel Gun"!
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Aesquire
Posted on Thursday, August 08, 2013 - 01:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The use of excess oil will result in "dieseling" which will degrade the seals in short order.

The pressures, and more importantly the temperatures will be higher than designed for. Back when most seals were leather, they burned up pretty quick...

Does make a nice report and speed up those pellets, though.

Still, Not Recommended. Seems not to do any damage, but it's happening. I went through this with an old Crossman pump up last century.
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86129squids
Posted on Friday, August 09, 2013 - 10:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Not to change it up, but I still want a proper 'tater gun! A good buddy of mine kept one handy out on the lake- he lived in a peaceful cove, but the PWC wallys kept ruining things. Nothing like a good BOOOM!!! from a 'tater gun to scatter them!
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