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Mr_grumpy
Posted on Friday, September 06, 2013 - 02:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Spent yesterday out with friends riding in the Jura, (it was a holiday in Geneva) & the M2 clattered & roared around with a Stelvio, a 1050 Tiger & a late model Street Bob.
It's got over 10 years on any of them but still great to ride.
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Rocket_in_uk
Posted on Friday, September 06, 2013 - 10:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


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So any guesses at what would have caused 2 of 4 cylinders to loose compression? It let go all at once, and there was some faint pinging when it went, but nothing dramatic. Afterward, it turned over fine with no odd noises.




Without getting into a Saab topic, yes that's simple Bill. Classic failure. Overheating due to oil starvation.

The centrifugal oil pump is located on the crankshaft end, where it sucks up oil from the sump by way of a steel tube with a fine mesh gauze on the end of it. These engines from this era are prone to turning oil into large carbon type deposit of sludge. This in time clogs the gauze on the oil pump pick up pipe, and the engine starves itself of oil. I'd wager you could hear the top end louder than what was once before, as the buckets can't take up their clearance without the right amount of oil or oil pressure. These engines also squirt oil under the pistons. Oil starvation will have this engine damage its crank, block, pistons etc, if there is an oil starvation issue, all the cause of a clogged pick up pipe. Many owners have a sump drop done. This enables the sump and pick up pipe to be cleaned, restoring oil feed and pressure, and this will save the engine every time!

Rocket in England
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Aesquire
Posted on Friday, September 06, 2013 - 11:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My bro in law Wulsftan just bought a XS1100, & his wife a 650 Maxim and she's been learning to ride. So we've done some toodling about up in the hills of middle of nowhere, occasionally with some other riders.

When asked why he won't ever, ever again ride my M2, Wulfstan's reply was "With most bikes you push the limit and it talks to you, tells you to slow down or die. His bike keeps telling me "Is that all you Got? Pussy!", that's why."

I told him to just don't listen when it's doing the Porn Star script. "deeper, harder, faster".
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Rocket_in_uk
Posted on Saturday, September 07, 2013 - 10:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I never expected too much from the tube frame Buells. Oh ok, maybe at first I expected 100% reliability, but coming from Meriden Triumph's and an iron head Sportster then an 86 Evo 4 speed Sporty to a Buell, I knew I'd been kidding myself a little.

The thing we can never know, just as fans and supporters, and of course customers, of the Buell brand, is what goes on behind closed doors. This is really where I always had an issue with Buell. It's like Willie G talks to his Harley riders. Listens to what they want. Takes notes. Tries to deliver. Looking at where Harley have been and gone since the late 70's I'd say they listened as a company and gave their customers, new and old, what they wanted. For me, I expected to some degree that Buell would, as a company, and Erik himself, given they're under the HD wing so to speak, have a similar approach to customers. But no. Everything was so secretive. And when we got new bikes they really were nothing like what we could have expected.

When Buell built a streetfighter, which is clearly the same bike as an RR1000, and all those 1980's Buells too, for me the S1 had captured what I wanted a motorcycle to look like, and it had great lineage and heritage which could have (in my opinion then) lived on and got better. Say like how Ducati have had 20 years out of their Monster now. It lived for what, 4 years at most? A real pity I thought. The X1 was never quite as good to look at, and it too didn't last long. Well that's fine because we got the XB's, and whilst this bike, certainly not in its first guise as a paltry 900 marketed by Buell as a 'Sportsfighter' did it for me, the XB's did give Buell the chassis they required to make a great range of motorcycles which included TT's, City X and Uly's. So why spoil it by changing direction to the 1125? Sorry but they're just pig ugly. And they hit the street just when other manufacturers were bringing great looking bikes to market, some with such close engine architecture, shape, size and whatever, I found myself at the time wondering how KTM could build a bike as stunning as their RC8 and Buell couldn't get close. Well the reality is, as I mentioned above somewhere, I could never know what was going on behind closed doors at Buell. What I saw was a very clever fella building very clever bikes with a very very successful motorcycle company behind him. To me I just thought, what the ferk is he up to with these fugly water cooled bikes?

Of course, I have a new found respect for Buell, and Erik, as my ignorance back then no doubt blinkered me. And the truth is, and this is the reality, is that the 1125 has morphed into a fantastic looking EBR. Now I wonder if Erik will ever turn that sleek minimalistic race bike into a streetfighter, coz if he did, and did so following in the wheel tracks of the S1, that's the target look surely, yes yes yes (or at least according to me, lol) then that would be one hell of a cool motorcycle. But you know what. I don't care what EBR or Erik does in the future, as I know that they and he will be happy as Larry. And I am too, as what I have got out of Buell for the last 14 years is what still makes it all worthwhile for me today. And that's because I've done what I wanted to do 14 years ago. Make an S1W Buell into a more ultimate S1W Buell, yet stay faithful to Erik's original great bike, and I'm still getting to do it coz I've not finished yet. So whilst a lot of shit has gone down over the years, it turns out it was all worth it! I think!

Rocket in England
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Reepicheep
Posted on Saturday, September 07, 2013 - 08:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks Rocket! I had the sump dropped when I bought it at 90k miles, and it was pristine. Then I did the "rev 7" PCV update kit and replaced all the hoses that had gone to silly putty. And I ran 5k oil change intervals with Rotella. But that was 70k miles earlier.

So who knows....
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Rocket_in_uk
Posted on Saturday, September 07, 2013 - 09:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well Bill, that does sound like a rather unusual failure. Another 70k after sump drop and breather pipes, and that kind of oil servicing, it should not have failed. I'd like to have seen that engine.

I have two theories though. Nah, let's not go there. This is a Buell site : )
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Rocket_in_uk
Posted on Saturday, September 07, 2013 - 09:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Just seen on the UK BEG site some log in stuff. The first link just asks me to enter user name and pass word. Still no idea what that should be or was? The second, looks like the last time I signed up but can't recall why I have zero posts other than maybe thinking I was unsuccessful at getting back on? Pretty sure my original log in name was Rocket in England but it is a long time ago.

Rocket in England
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Mr_grumpy
Posted on Sunday, September 08, 2013 - 04:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Have you been at the philosophy pills again Sean?

It'll be 10 years Buell ownership at the end of this month for me.
The oil pump drive stripped while riding it home from the previous owner, but I still have the bike, must mean something.

Reep, if you've lost compression in 2 adjacent cyls of 4 but it still runs well at high revs, that's usually caused by a leak between the cyls , head gasket or cracked head probably, but I've seen iron block motors crack between the bores, generally 1 & 2 or 3 & 4 as there's usually more meat between 2 & 3.
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Rocket_in_uk
Posted on Sunday, September 08, 2013 - 06:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Grumps, me philosophising? Nah......

Bill sez NO compression in 2 cylinders. Head gasket failure would have to be pretty catastrophic, it being a 9-3 and what they do if so, it would pressurise so bad you couldn't get coolant in it nor likely get it started. Never mind it running like a dream over 4000rpm.

I'd wager piston/ring/bore damage, a result of oil starvation. It's possible a shell type bearing the balance shafts run in, failed. Top end lubrication, and oil under piston squirters, their oil gallery runs through the shaft bearings first on its way to feed most everything after and above the crankshaft, except the oil filter housing and the pressure switch location. So you'll have no warning light come on, no big noise. Everything will appear fine except maybe the cam followers will rattle a bit. Particularly from cold. That's all really, and not much to go on.

I don't usually compression test any of the 9-3 / 9-5 type petrol engines unless just a quick preliminary. I leakdown test them for best results.

Now about these air cooled overhead valve dinosaurs?

Rocket in England
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Mr_grumpy
Posted on Sunday, September 08, 2013 - 07:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Oh I daren't check my Air cooled dinosaur, I'm scared of what I might find.

I know it could use a set of jugs & pistons & rings, & a bit of clearancing on the rocker covers to stop some of the rocker arm clattering.
And the Mikuni needs overhauling, I'm back with the modified Keihin at the moment, & my US rear pulley has lost most of it's chrome in the teeth so we're back to full Euro spec, & the shock could do with replacing/rebuilding...

Need I go on?

Trouble is it goes like a train in spite of all that & I love it!
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Rocket_in_uk
Posted on Sunday, September 08, 2013 - 08:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well, seeing as we'rre getting back on topic, Buell stuff, I'll tell you mine.

It rained so hard two weeks ago, and it's the first time in years I've ridden the Beast in such heavy heavy rain, it stopped four times at speed. I had years ago waterproofed the coil output areas and the HT leads and stuff, but somewhere some water got in. It might even be a tad in the fuel, so a quick clean out with the tank off and an air line etc, carb drain too.

I desperately need to do the fork seals. Where were those forks you mentioned on the phone? What were they in comparison to the stock forks on mine?

My right side isolator failed recently. It's so bad now I'm not riding until replaced. They're obsolete but looking at the FXR ones from HD. Hopefully ordering from Holland tomoz.

Then last Wednesday for reasons not expected, the starter solenoid won't spin the starter.

And I think I've a weeping drive pulley seal.

Can I get it repaired next week to at least a riding standard? Like to try as we're wanting to go to Olivers Mount for the Gold Cup. John McGuinness and Guy Martin both racing, as well as the Dunlop's and a host of other road racing and TT stars. For my non UK Buellers, Olivers is the only true road circuit UK mainland where the roads are closed to traffic for motorcycle racing, and it's spectacular as it sits on the top of a mountainous peninsula between the north and south bays of Scarborough. It's tree laden up steep sides and down steep sides and the circuit has several long steep inclines and declines which make the Corkscrew look like a step ladder! The racing is always as spectacular as the circuit.

Otherwise no Buell Beast, the just about finished, maybe this week, Winnebago will get it's first proper outing in a long time!

Rocket in England

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Mr_grumpy
Posted on Sunday, September 08, 2013 - 08:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Got a pair of new Showa fork legs which are a straight swap for the WP, from St Paul HD.
Very nice folk & very helpful. give em a tinkle. http://www.stpaulhd.com
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Reepicheep
Posted on Sunday, September 08, 2013 - 09:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks Sean! Good luck in your stator hunt, shouldn't be too bad as many sporty stators would probably be fine... you will just have to splice on the right connectors.
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Bigdaddy
Posted on Sunday, September 08, 2013 - 12:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Wow, Sean, where you been buddy? : )

G2
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Rocket_in_uk
Posted on Sunday, September 08, 2013 - 03:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I been with Napoleon on Elba!

Bill, not stator - isolator!





Rocket in England
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Rocket_in_uk
Posted on Sunday, September 08, 2013 - 03:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks Grumps - will check out the Showa options and price but I only need seals. It was the rebound and compression damping on each leg, rather than one on one and t'other on t'other, I wanted to confirm. Is that correct?


Rocket in England
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Mr_grumpy
Posted on Sunday, September 08, 2013 - 03:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yeah, WP has rebound on one leg & compression on the other, Showa has both on both.

Twin Motorcycles in holland have seals for the WP forks, dunno what else had those forks though.

If you want my old WPs (comp side has blown seal) just shout.
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Liquorwhere
Posted on Sunday, September 08, 2013 - 04:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well cool Sean...no more Ouija board to get your message out haha the good old days
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Rocket_in_uk
Posted on Sunday, September 08, 2013 - 06:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thank you grumps. Will let you know but it's entirely likely I'll get seals and sort.


Rocket in England
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Buelliedan
Posted on Tuesday, September 10, 2013 - 01:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hey Rocket,
How have you been? Don't feel bad as I too took a lengthy hiatus from Badweb. It took me some time to realize that a certain Aaron Wilson was not the person I thought he was and I had made some very bad decisions while defending him.

That is all behind me now and life is good!!!
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Rocket_in_uk
Posted on Tuesday, September 10, 2013 - 07:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well Dan, despite all that went pear shaped, I met some great friends and enjoyed some great times when we did Bonneville and the Buellganza.

Maybe one day I'll return, as that is something I've often considered. Colorado is certainly a stunning part of the world. Next time I'll bring my big bad Buell : )

Rocket in England
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Buelliedan
Posted on Wednesday, September 18, 2013 - 07:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Rocket,
Would love to meet you in person one day. I am still in CO, others thankfully are not.
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