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2008xb12scg
| Posted on Monday, August 05, 2013 - 12:07 am: |
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I'm considering selling my 2008 xb12scg for an 09 cr. The xb is fun and great low end mostly I love the way it looks. The cr is really smooth and way more power than ill ever need. Right now the cr has the clubmans on it and my wrists can't do it and overall just not a comfy riding position for me. I'm not going to be racing more just comuting and weekend twisties. My questionis (finally lol) if I put the high bar kit on the cr will the riding position be close to the xbs? Hoping somebody has experience on both and will know the answer. Thanks for any advice! |
Deanh8
| Posted on Monday, August 05, 2013 - 04:43 am: |
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Ive got both and the ONLY reason I hop on my 1125 is if I really want to go out and use the power, ie race... going to work, back road twisties, around town, always on the XB. 1125 is still a very hearty motorcycle, but lacks a little bit of the soul the xb has. If you say it has more power then you would ever use, id really consider the upgrade. XB has a way more useable power band. |
Ratbuell
| Posted on Monday, August 05, 2013 - 07:14 am: |
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Ulysses pegs and high bars, and you have a very similar riding position. It won't be as low as your CG. I love both (my XB is a Ulysses, and I also have a CR)...but I ride both. They're an apples-to-oranges set of bikes...but each has its place. Ride what you like best. |
Tq_freak
| Posted on Monday, August 05, 2013 - 09:15 am: |
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I have both as well 05 12S and a 09CR Like Rat said Apples to oranges. I call the XB the Big Block Camaro and the CR is the New Z06 Vette. Both will get you a ticket but depends on what mood your in. |
Hughlysses
| Posted on Monday, August 05, 2013 - 09:28 am: |
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I owned a CR for about a year, and I was talking to another Badwebber last weekend about it. He'd also test ridden 1125's a couple of times and had the same impression I did. The 1125's don't seem to like being ridden "easily". The XB's seem equally at home taking it easy or being hammered. Both of us found that a bit of a problem, because when you're riding the 1125 hard like it likes to be ridden, you're going damned fast. Both are great bikes, but consider that before you make the change. |
86129squids
| Posted on Monday, August 05, 2013 - 12:10 pm: |
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What Hugh AND Joe said... I'd hate to lose the soul and character that the XB has- I know, because I did it, and kinda wish I hadn't. At the time, the XBSX I had wasn't getting ridden often enough, and my bones were complaining more and more about it when I did... had I owned a Uly or a variant on that 2nd gen frame (SS, STT, or Uly XT) I'd prolly still have it. Those CR's sure are sexy though, and they seemed to have all the bugs worked out that plagued the R series bikes. Prepare for more tickets, though. |
2008xb12scg
| Posted on Monday, August 05, 2013 - 12:26 pm: |
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Thanks for the advice! Have to decide today. Hows the riding position if I put the high bars on it? I can't do the clubmans though rhey sure look sexy |
Froggy
| Posted on Monday, August 05, 2013 - 12:41 pm: |
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Like Ratbuell said, a CR with the High Bar kit and Ulysses footpegs feels awfully similar to the XB Lightning. My CR had the high bar kit on it when I bought it, and personally I felt it ruined the bike. At highway speeds you turn into a kite, and at low speeds it compromises handling. I swapped to the Clubmans and it was a totally different bike, it felt more alive and more responsive. |
D_adams
| Posted on Monday, August 05, 2013 - 02:31 pm: |
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Usable powerband on my 1125 is from 3k to 10.5k and in any gear. 1st sucks, but anything over that is fine. With 140 hp and almost 90 ft/lbs of torque available, it's easy to find a sweet spot to ride it. I've ridden a few xb12's and 9's, there's no comparison, the 1125 is simply better everywhere except for slow speed riding. |
Notpurples2
| Posted on Monday, August 05, 2013 - 04:30 pm: |
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I have a XB9S and CR. I love my 9 and the CR feels just like a lighter and extremely more powerful version of the XB. I haven't gotten rid of the 9 but it doesn't get as much attention anymore. Here's the thing though, I've thought about selling one since I don't "need" two bikes that are that alike. But I can't really decide which to sell. Even though I ride the CR more, it's more expensive to insure and fuel. The XB makes more sense since it is just as much fun, cheaper, and less likely to get me in trouble with the law. But the CR is so mean and and fast... So if you like your bike but want a 50hp bump in power at the cost of some mpg's and probably a insurance hike. The CR is the ticket. Note: I have clubman's on both my XB9S and CR because I really like clubmans. The high bar kit was on my CR when I bought it and is very similar to the standard XBS bars, maybe a touch lower. |
Cataract2
| Posted on Monday, August 05, 2013 - 05:10 pm: |
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I still have my XB9SX along with my 1125R. I have to say, every time I get back on the XB I get reminded of just how easy and fun it is to ride. Makes me want to sell my 1125R and get an XB12S. The 1125R is fun to ride as well, but there was always something about the XB that just made it more fun. |
Ratbuell
| Posted on Tuesday, August 06, 2013 - 02:19 pm: |
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I think people don't realize what a HUGE difference the gearing makes from an R to a CR. I did multiple track days and countless demos on the R when it came out and thought "its about time Buell had this kind of power". But I didn't buy one. Then the CR came out - being an S1 owner I immediately loved the spy photos. Then I rode one. Holy crap! What a difference in perceived power and torque!! While I always felt like I should downshift the R, the CR always felt....right. More torquey, like the air cooled engine. |
Hughlysses
| Posted on Tuesday, August 06, 2013 - 02:34 pm: |
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I think Buell was already well on the way to addressing the low RPM rideability shortcomings of the 1125 relative to the XB's. Don Canet's short review of the B2 in the May 2010 Cycle World said the B2 would have had higher lift, but shorter duration cams and 56 mm vs 61 mm throttle bodies. The version he rode had stock cams but the smaller throttle bodies and he noted that the low speed characteristics were noticeably better. I'm sure all these lessons will be incorporated in the EBR street bikes so hopefully they'll have the best of both worlds. |
Deanh8
| Posted on Wednesday, August 07, 2013 - 01:32 am: |
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"Usable powerband on my 1125 is from 3k to 10.5k and in any gear. " The powerband is broader on the 1125 for sure, but the useable torque on the XB is great also. I do a lot of racing, and my XB and 1125R XB was able to hit 10.9@119 and my 1125R ran 10.9@131 Just shows the XB has more useable powerband, it covers the same amount of distance in the same amount of time at much less speeds. and I can launch my 1125 pretty damn good. |
Mr_grumpy
| Posted on Wednesday, August 07, 2013 - 05:34 am: |
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I'm an old git, I like air-cooled bikes. It took a good while for me to warm up to the XB platform & the TT finally bit me, but the 1125 just never floated my boat at all. Now I've just my clattery old M2, & I STILL LOVE IT! |
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