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Oldog
Posted on Monday, July 22, 2013 - 03:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Those are trumped up phony scandals.

No I read fine, long as my glasses are handy,
they are only "trumped up" in "his bizaro" world



People like us confuse a good argument with those annoying facts
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Tuesday, July 23, 2013 - 12:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

In a rebel rousing insight of the week, this is for Washington State - I fully imagine it is being repeated across the nation.

The new 'obamacare' "navigators" that are supposed to enroll people like cattle into the new entitlement - are prohibited from having ANY association, affiliation, agency, appointment or endorsement from ANY insurance entity.....
So the 'carriers' (as the Exchanges are not insurance companies - but transactional population management social organizations) that have received MILLIONS in dollars to set up the exchanges are recruiting 'volunteers' for the navigator positions.

So it is essentially an unpaid, ad hoc, pro bono position - of course the lead agency in Washington is Planned Parenthood - and indeed they are getting paid fat checks to force this through.....

care to guess who contributed to the O's campaign ?...... bada bing

This thing just gets more political at every turn.
If you think it is about 'Health Care' - you haven't read it.
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Ftd
Posted on Tuesday, July 23, 2013 - 03:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Very powerful monologue:

http://video.foxnews.com/v/2560422134001/president -obama-and-the-race-problem-/
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Reindog
Posted on Tuesday, July 23, 2013 - 03:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Why are Detroit politicians and union leaders not serving hard time in prison for the crimes they have perpetrated on Detroit?

Detroit today.
California tomorrow.
The United States of America the day after tomorrow (if we do not wake up to Conservatism).

You Liberals have lost and now you are trying to drag us underwater with you.

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Cityxslicker
Posted on Tuesday, July 23, 2013 - 06:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

we think it is better when you spread 'success' around......

historically - that has NEVER worked.
Proletariat Red Revolution
The New Deal
The Great Society
Medicare / Medicaid
the Department of Ed
(yes - I went there)
and this current rail roading by this administration; mile posts on the journey to failure.

Why does history repeat ? - certainly because it isn't taught for shiate.
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Aesquire
Posted on Tuesday, July 23, 2013 - 08:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

not when our economy is winner-take-all, but when we're all in this together

Actually, that needs translation.

"It's better for me when I steal your money and give it to my donors."

That's the history of this fellow as a card carrying socialist, a fascist corrupt world view.

Or, perhaps, City, it's simply .....

"We want to achieve a new and better order of society: in this new and better society there must be neither rich nor poor; all will have to work. Not a handful of rich people, but all the working people must enjoy the fruits of their common labour. Machines and other improvements must serve to ease the work of all and not to enable a few to grow rich at the expense of millions and tens of millions of people. This new and better society is called socialist society. The teachings about this society are called 'socialism'.“
-Vladimir Lenin, "To the Rural Poor" (1903); Collected Works, Vol 6, p. 366
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Aesquire
Posted on Tuesday, July 23, 2013 - 08:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Of course, that's the sermon. The results of that religion are crushing dictatorship, mass murder, by the millions, and informants. ( like those requested by the AG in the Zimmerman Lynching )
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Reindog
Posted on Tuesday, July 23, 2013 - 10:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So what are your really saying, Mr. President? The Great Divider at work. Please resign so our country can start healing. You've done enough. Go play some more golf.

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Aesquire
Posted on Wednesday, July 24, 2013 - 12:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Much as I despise what seems to be his ethical and philosophical stand, in this case the President is in a very real sense, "correct".

( sure, he's saying this right now for some diabolical reason. ) But.

If you are different, the car doors lock.

Black males especially, due to a combination of exploitation and reputation, deserved and undeserved.
But the "other" is always a thing to fear. ( that's just freaking evolution )

Different, the car doors lock.

There is IMHO a serious problem in culture in Urban America, and it's causes and ramifications are a subject of constant debate. The fact that there is a problem in those cultures is indisputable. ( CultureS, just because it all looks the same on TV doesn't mean we're all the same... but Because of tv, the problems are. )

I'm not going into a whole rant on racism, and race relations. I hope the ideal is a color blind society at least the equal of Rome of 2000 years ago. I prefer to skip the slavery part, thank you. We already had a war for that, and I'm not going back. But. In Rome being a slave had diddle to do with skin color, if you were a citizen, "race" wasn't an issue.

We aint there yet.
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Aesquire
Posted on Wednesday, July 24, 2013 - 12:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Oh, and on the Golf, etc. advice.
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Reindog
Posted on Wednesday, July 24, 2013 - 12:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

This is what the Race Profiteers do. They distract attention from our real economic problems. Ready to admit defeat yet, Liberals? Your philosophy has lost and it is literally destroying America from within.

Hello, Roman Empire.

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Oldog
Posted on Wednesday, July 24, 2013 - 03:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

This is interesting and may be a link proving the "chosen ones" involvement in the IRS scandal

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/07/24/did-irs -appointee-meet-with-obama-before-new-screening-gu idelines-released/?test=latestnews

Keep digging Darryl !
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Thursday, July 25, 2013 - 08:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

cue the International.....
http://youtu.be/o2jnX2y30DE

The Proletariate speech delivered as promised; and followed by SPAM (only not the kind that is good with breakfast)


Cut, copy, past - executive style. From the 'office' of the 'president'

Hello everybody --

The basic bargain of this country says that if you work hard, you can get ahead -- you can build a secure life for your family, and know that your kids will do even better someday.

But for more than a decade, that bargain has frayed, and a devastating recession made it worse.

Over the past four and a half years, America has fought its way back, laying a new foundation for more durable economic growth. But many of the challenges that faced the middle class before the recession remain. And Washington has taken its eye off the ball.

Too many people in this town are focused on scoring political points or fanning phony scandals instead of finding ways to help grow our economy, create jobs, or roll back a 30-year trend of rising inequality.

It’s time for that to stop. It’s time for all of us to focus on our top priority as a country, and that’s reigniting the engine of our prosperity: a rising, thriving middle class.

That’s what I just said while speaking at Knox College, back home in Illinois, where I kicked off a series of speeches on what truly matters to the middle class.

If building America from the middle out is an idea you share, I need you to stand with me. Add your voice to mine.

This has been my North Star for as long as I've been in office, and it's what will shape the time that I have left in the White House.

In the weeks ahead, in towns across the country, I’ll be talking about my ideas for building on the cornerstones of middle-class security: Good jobs with good wages. An education that prepares our children and our workers for a new economy. A home to call your own. Affordable health care when you get sick. A secure retirement even if you’re not rich. A better bargain for the middle class, and for all who are striving to join it.

This is the debate we need to have. And you can join me right now.

Let the country know that you believe that America works best not when it grows from the top down, but when it grows from the middle out:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/a-better-bargain/speak-o ut

Thank you,

President Barack Obama

if y'all got some time; sign this account up for a rebel rousing rendition of contests, sweepstakes, porn, Nigerian Schemes, Ponzi Schemes, MLM marketing and of course your favorite Republican/Conservative/Libertarian remailers.


president@messages.whitehouse.gov

Sworn to protect and defend the Constitution Against all enemies - Foreign and DOMESTIC.

I do not serve you.
F*ck you Barry.
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Thursday, July 25, 2013 - 08:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

And for those of you think its about race:
pull your ignorant head of out of your a$$

I hated it when Hegel, Engels, Marx, Lenin, Stalin, Trotski, Mao, Gueverra, etc supported it ; and ain't a black one among em.

Lenin 1908 On Land Reform and Open Progressive Communication.

Ctl x v & p WARNING:

The fact that the government of the tsar, of the landlords, and of the big bourgeoisie (the Octobrists) bas definitely given its support to the new agrarian policy is of tremendous historical importance. The destinies of the bourgeois revolution in Russia—not only the present revolution, but possible future democratic revolutions as well—depend most of all an the success or failure of this policy.

Wherein lies the essence of this change? It lies in the fact that up to now the sanctity of the old, medieval allotment landownership by the peasants and their “primordial” village communes had its most ardent supporters in the master classes of reactionary Russia. The serf-owning landlords, being the ruling class in pre-Reform Russia, the politically predominating class throughout the nineteenth century, pursued, by and large, a policy of preserving the old communal system of peasant landownership.

The development of capitalism, completely undermined this system by the twentieth century. The old village commune with its social estate basis, the attachment of the peasant to the soil, the routinism of the semi-feudal countryside came into the sharpest conflict with the new economic conditions. The dialectics of history were such that the peasantry, who in other countries with a more or less well-ordered (from the point of view of the requirements of capitalism) agrarian system are a pillar of the regime, came forward in Russia during the revolution with the most destructive demands, including the confiscation of the landlords’ estates and the nationalisation of the land (the Trudoviks in the First and Second Dumas).

These radical demands, which were even tinctured with the ideas of petty-bourgeois socialism, were by no means the result of muzhik “socialism”, but were due to the economic necessity of cutting the tangled knot of feudal landownership, of clearing the way for the free farmer (the agricultural entrepreneur) on land freed from all, medieval partitions.[1]

Capitalism has already irrevocably sapped all the foundations of the old agrarian system in Russia. It can make no further progress unless it breaks up that system, and it certainly and inevitably will break it up; no power on earth can prevent this. But this system can be broken up in the landlord way or the peasant way, to clear the path for landlord or peasant capitalism. The landlord way of breaking up the old order involves the forcible destruction of the village commune and the accelerated ruination and extermination of the mass of impoverished owners for the benefit of a handful of kulaks. The peasant way involves the confiscation of the landlords’ land, and the transfer of all the land to free proprietors from among the peasantry (the Narodniks’ “equal right to the land” means, in effect, the farmers’ right to the land with the destruction of all medieval partitions).

The government of the counter-revolution understood this position. Stolypin had a correct grasp of the matter: unless the old system of landownership was broken up Russia could not develop economically. Stolypin and the landlords boldly took the revolutionary path, ruthlessly breaking up the old order, handing over the peasant masses as a whole to the mercy of the landlords and kulaks.


Those do not read history, do not inspect across languages, across countries, to past - are welcome to repeat the same mistakes; with 'new' fervor.

Fu Barry. and your minions

Nothing left to loose, nothing left to care.
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Chauly
Posted on Thursday, July 25, 2013 - 10:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.forbes.com/sites/markhendrickson/2013/0 7/23/in-my-native-city-of-detroit-atlas-has-at-lon g-last-shrugged/

What do you do with a crushed city?
Caution: Graphic and Obscene images, and may cause extreme sadness...

http://www.marevueweb.com/photographies/la-ville-d e-detroit-en-ruine/
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Hootowl
Posted on Thursday, July 25, 2013 - 11:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I don't know who John Galt is, but I'm pretty sure he moved to Texas.

http://www.google.com/search?gs_rn=22&gs_ri=psy-ab &cp=16&gs_id=20&xhr=t&q=the+woodlands+texas&bav=on .2,or.r_qf.&bvm=bv.49784469,d.eWU&biw=1176&bih=741 &wrapid=tljp1374764624549030&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hl=en&t bm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=Vj7xUeSSIOXKyQGqm oCgDg&safe=active
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Reindog
Posted on Thursday, July 25, 2013 - 12:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Chauly,
No sadness, just anger. This is what Liberals and Unions have done. And the cancer is spreading. Obama still enjoys a 45% approval rating despite his provable crimes.
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Chauly
Posted on Thursday, July 25, 2013 - 12:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Tom,
Posit: You have just been awarded a city for $1.
What do you do with it?

How do you invest in it such that you get it back up and running?

What if there is actually no reason whatsoever for the city to still exist?

If the job base has left, the tax-paying citizens have left, what else is there?

Could there be a new Homestead Act, but for abandoned cities?

If you have The Room elsewhere, why come back?

It's a tough problem...
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Hootowl
Posted on Thursday, July 25, 2013 - 03:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'd buy Detroit for a dollar. Then I'd kick everyone out and use it as the set of my new zombie movie. Spoiler alert, the city is razed at the end in a last ditch effort to rid the US of Progressives. I mean zombies.
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Thursday, July 25, 2013 - 03:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

wall it off and make it new penal colony ala Escape from New York

Snake Pliskin deserves a come back !
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Aesquire
Posted on Thursday, July 25, 2013 - 05:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I thought he was dead?
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S21125r
Posted on Thursday, July 25, 2013 - 06:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks Chauly for the photo link – those photos bring mixed emotions for me. My grandmother immigrated to Detroit as a toddler in 1906 so it delights me to know that she and her parents experienced Detroit in its prime before they moved north to buy farm land. In the few conversations we had about her early life in Detroit, she said it was a beautiful city – she called it the Paris of the USA.
On the flip side it saddens me to see what’s left of the city that gave my ancestors their first opportunity for a new life. I moved down to Metro Detroit about 15 years ago and have venture downtown maybe 3 times. There’s just very little left to see and what you do see is depressing once you realize how far downhill it has gone.
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Aesquire
Posted on Friday, July 26, 2013 - 08:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130726/01200123 954/obama-promise-to-protect-whistleblowers-just-d isappeared-changegov.shtml

To be honest, I've been led to believe that Manning isn't a "whistle blower" but by his actions, acted as an agent of a foreign power to steal classified material. ( yes, it wasn't a "government" that he gave his files to, but it was a foreign power. )

I don't know how much classified stuff Snowden has turned over to enemies of western civilization, but while he also may deserve full prosecution as a treasonous cur, he is a buttload closer to being an actual "whistle blower". ( he may also be milking that image )

The notable part is the removal of any ethics pledge that Obama may ever have made..... because he has none.
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Sifo
Posted on Saturday, July 27, 2013 - 12:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)



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Reepicheep
Posted on Saturday, July 27, 2013 - 11:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I saw that vanishing whistle blower stuff as well.

The situation is screwed up. The more and more aggressive and invasive government actions and "secret courts" and an utter lack of transparency seems awfully close to tyranny. It certainly doesn't pass the "sniff test" for constitutionality, regardless of what tortured judicial decisions we are operating under.

And Snowden absolutely did violate a trust and did hurt the country badly. But did so primarily around the areas where the country is behaving badly.

So here I sit in kind of a situation where a friend of mine got drunk and was bullying somebody, who was also drunk and bullying, and they are in a fight kicking each others asses. I'm annoyed and concerned, but not convinced they aren't both getting what they had coming to them.

If I knew the full scope of what the US (and other governments, don't kid yourselves) was doing, and it was done in full transparency, I suspect at the end of the day I'd reluctantly tolerate it, provided it was all done in the absolute light of day. I understand that represents a tactical disadvantage, but I think it is a necessary one. Plan your intelligence so that it can be transparent, people can learn how to circumvent as a result, but the circumvention's will be a huge drag on their activities.

But when its done by secret courts via secret decisions, then it is chilling, and abuse is inevitable.

So the only really stupid thing here was the original Obama campaign posturing saying "George Bush is evil and people leaking information are all heros". It's a complicated situation on both sides and there aren't easy answers... and while I am now not sure the Bush adminstration got those answers completely right, they were in a much more difficult situation, and seem to have come much closer to sane than the Obama administration has.
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Oldog
Posted on Saturday, July 27, 2013 - 12:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The comments about "Phony Scandals" tell me that these folks fear what might happen if they loose their hold on the senate,
in '14

they need to defuse the situation

It seems that the rules are now inverted , Evil is good, Good is Evil, confuse, divide, and misdirect, the truth is a lie, and their lies are the truth.
Decent is indecent, just is unjust.
What they say and do is always right, just and true, even when they turn about midway thru a season.

Pay attention,
No solutions, just empty repetitive soaring rhetoric.

Their end game looks like Detroit, but they won't admit it, its always some one elses' fault.

14 is coming get out and vote out any progressive liberal democrat, try to motivate all you know that hold this view point to do like wise, other wise we can be assured that things will only get worse.
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Aesquire
Posted on Saturday, July 27, 2013 - 06:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.politico.com/story/2013/07/states-nulli fication-obama-94826.html?hp=t1

In at least 37 states legislation has been introduced that in some way guts federal gun regulations, according to the Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence. The bills were signed into law this spring in two states, Kansas and Alaska, and in two more lawmakers hope to override a governor’s veto.

That's the view of the Brady Center to Exploit a Crippled Guy. "Gutting" laws is their speak for upholding the Constitution.

There's a LOT of money in tyranny.
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Reindog
Posted on Saturday, July 27, 2013 - 09:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Suggestion to Admins:

Change the name of this thread to "President Phony".
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Reindog
Posted on Saturday, July 27, 2013 - 10:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

President Phony is a disaster. Loved listening to him whine about those nasty people who oppose him. Go play golf, President Phony.

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Reindog
Posted on Sunday, July 28, 2013 - 04:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What say you, President Phony?

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