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     Sifo |
So it's been a few years since I've had a "real full time job". A lead from close to a year ago has finally panned out. I'll be starting out tomorrow refurbishing wind turbine transmissions! Just slightly bigger than what drops into our bikes. OK, considerably bigger than our bikes. Funny thing, my wife started a new job today. Her lead started close to a year ago too. Are all jobs taking this long to go through these days? | ||
| Buelldawg |
Congrats to both of you. | ||
| Sifo |
Thanks! It's really thrown a wrench in the summer vacation plans though! | ||
| Xdigitalx |
Yea that is great! I got layed off in feb and just got 2 offers, one temp position 45 min away and the other in some super small town in Iowa (pop. 5500). Iowa was a perm position but I accepted the local temp position for now. (decent pay with some OT) Bummer that it is only 45 min ride, I am use to a 60 min plus (on my bike 60 min = 40 min) What was weird though, after I had the phone interview with Iowa, and then emailed them declining their nice offer... I watched a recording of the race at Road America and there was a shot of the spectators walking and I saw a guy with an Iowa hoody... plain as day, then on my way to my new local job a car with Iowa tags passed me...., on the right!! and then I come home after working OT on Saturday to my mother watching a movie "Personal Effects", (Ashton Kutcher stars in as an Iowa wrestler) I still had the phone interview with Iowa ..so that bridge may be still be open for me in the future. Very small town, no fun riding roads for 100's of miles but if I wanted to get away from jersey, that be the place to go. I guess it would be the complete opposite of jersey. | ||
| Pwnzor |
Employers are taking more time to decide on who they wish to hire. Current political climate has much to do with it. Congratulations to both of you! | ||
| Cityxslicker |
Congratulations. HR will give your resume 42 seconds of 'look' IF it passes their key word scrubber. It is an absolute waste of time to submit an application for a job opening. the entire process is pedantic. Due to the pure number of applicants, they just grab the first 12 or so that 'meet' their liking (not necessarily even the job requirements) and submit those to the hiring manager; they then leave the ad up to pack their pipeline for ego or projects that they 'may' have down the road. The only thing that is comparable is internet dating; and I suspect the behavior is entirely the same because the same subset of people and ideology are involved in both memes. If I want a job - I go to the C level with an RFP for the position, with solutions that negate the job opening. It is usually piece work, but at least it pays the bills. Any job I have ever had, was IN SPITE of HR, not because of them. | ||
| Chauly |
Tom, do you rebuild the gearboxes in place? :-))) Gar-on-teed you will always have something to do! | ||
| Xdigitalx |
There was a GE plant out in Erie pa that built gear boxes. They were supposed to expand. Not sure if they are still there. Pretty amazing process. | ||
| Glitch |
I was at the Coke HQ in Atlanta back when I was a corporate monkey. One of the HR guys was having puter problems and I was getting him set up with a new laptop. While I was getting him set up he was going through resumes, he had two piles. He was going through them pretty quickly soting them out. I asked him what he criteria was for the two stacks. He says, they have too many to be able to go through each one, so he made two stacks. 1st stack was serif, the 2nd was sans-serif. 1st stack went to one of his staff for examination, the other went into the circular file. I asked why serif got the look, and the sans-serif got the circular file. His answer, it was Tuesday... | ||
| Glitch |
Oh, and congrats to you both! Hope y'all are happy with your new jobs! | ||
| Two_seasons |
My next job will be with a company that DOES NOT have an HR dept. HR types are the ruin of modern business! Hiring managers, if they would push themselves away from their "cozy corner" and interview for 5 minutes with each they deemed eligible, could do the job of any HR dept. and with the ability to know exactly what he/she needed/wanted in the new hire! I can not stand HR depts.! | ||
| Crusty |
Q: How do you know when an H.R. person is lying? A: Their lips are moving. | ||
| Two_seasons |
I forgot to ask...what will the short bus do without you not driving it? Congrats to you and the Mrs! | ||
| Sifo |
Tom, do you rebuild the gearboxes in place? :-))) They do very little in the way of "up tower" repair work. I'm told they only have one technician doing that, but he is very busy. I was scrubbing down a casing last night that had bearing journals that were wider than my shoulders. This is big stuff that requires cranes to do almost anything. I saw planetary gears with needle bearings that were about 2 inches in diameter. The scale of everything is nothing like what I'm used to. They seem to use Loctite by the gallon too! I cleaned more Loctite off of a single casing than I have used in my lifetime. Thanks for all the good wishes. It looks like an interesting place to work! | ||
| Psykick_machanik |
I believe it is taking longer. Employers looking deeper into who/what they want. It took 6 MONTHS!! to hear back from a company i applied to in January. But they were looking for a very focused skill group (Avionics). | ||
| Sifo |
Forgot to mention, but we spec Amsoil in our gearboxes. I just found that to be kind of cool! | ||
| Xdigitalx |
crap... laid off again... and I got my first speeding ticket in years... (78 in a 55)  | ||
| Slaughter |
A moment here in defense of HR departments. My company has had something on the order of 100 openings and in excess of 5 thousand applications. People have gotten so lazy and so demanding that they think shot gun emailing a few hundred resumes to a few hundred companies is going to be meaningful to somebody on the receiving end. (Same mindset that demands instant response to emails sent to Congress I suppose) Maybe my Company is unique but we have had Engineering and Manufacturing specify what they are looking for and have to then rely on human resources to filter the responses... and we still have one guy operating nearly full time looking over resumes instead of Engineering. He should be a design engineer but he's doing resumes. You would be amazed the volume of resumes and applications that are completely totally and utterly unrelated to what we do. | ||
| Slaughter |
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| Two_seasons |
As I said, the hiring manager knows EXACTLY who they are looking for. With all the bs from hr and some applicants, the hiring manager IS GOING TO BE BURDENED with this task anyway, hr or no hr! As a co-owner of a business, I will be ULTIMATELY responsible for that applicants performance. And so will the hiring manager in a bigger firm. HR hasn't a clue what the hiring manager needs. The only reason they are involved IS BECAUSE they now have that role in the hiring process. This is why your company is wasting it's time using HR! Slaughter, you are old school and i'm pretty sure you can appreciate my comments. Xdigitalx, sorry to hear about your situation. | ||
| Sifo |
I'm still kind of absorbing the events of the last couple of days, but we had a company wide meeting on Friday morning (including our overseas plants). This was on the heals of the top guy in the US spending the week in Washington DC. The short of it is that the US and German plants just can't be profitable competing against the China plant. For 2014 they plan to cut 80 people where I'm at and 500 people in Germany. No word on the China facility, but they said that this wasn't a matter of low demand, so I can only assume that it means China is expanding their production. Also no word on exactly when in 2014 the cuts would happen. I feel like I'm on a roller coaster ride. I haven't actually given notice yet at my old job, as technically I'm still on a seasonal lay off. I've got a couple of weeks to figure out if the stability of the old part time job is better than the full time work that very likely has an expiration date not too far in the future. Also, I'm on the service side, not production and my boss told me that if it were up to him, he would keep me over any of the production people that they have, simply because he can see my work ethic and ability to learn. Good words to hear from him to be sure. He did however point out, that he has no clue if he will have any say in it, and that I need to do whatever I feel is best for me. Last time they had cuts, they cut the contract workers first (that's me). It's a shame. I think it's damn cool work, and I've been told that I'm way ahead of the typical learning curve already. I guess I'm lucky in that I have a dilemma in which job to stay with. It far from a clear cut choice to make though. | ||
| Zane |
I'm in the middle of hiring 2 people. My HR department has been at best useless and has introduced meaningless read tape that has slowed the process. The could not produce a reasonable candidate in 2 months. I got them to contract with a recruiting company I'm familiar with and that company presented 3 candidates in less than 2 weeks. Most HR departments are useless | ||
| Cityxslicker |
I get no response from HR/Talent Acquisition/Recruiters. IF I get a job it is inspite of them, not because of them. And I am damn pig headed in my stubborn traits, I will get what I want, if I cannot get it from you.... I will get it from your competition. And I am a pain in the @$$; it is your choice if you want me working for your profit and your bottom line by increasing my commission - or if I go to your competitor and work my efforts there. Your choice - I make a hell of a team player - I make a worse adversary. | ||
| Kyrocket |
I just found out Friday I'll be starting a new job August 5th. I'm jumping back in time and starting over in a manufacturing environment at the assembly level. Working through a temp firm at first but just to get my foot in the door. Where I am now is the first job that I could not work my way up in, I'm stuck and have taken on other jobs and no other pay. So help me out and buy a new car, keep a Bueller employed  |
