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Nillaice
Posted on Saturday, June 08, 2013 - 11:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

it seems over kill to me to say 'front' when referring to the forks on a motorcycle
but I still read/hear people saying it, including my self. I chuckle a little inside cuz it just seems silly

now there are goin to be some rare exceptions when you look at the full spectrum of bikes ever made, but for the most part; these adjectives are unnecessary, especially when the bike in reference to is known.

i'm just as guilty as I catch myself saying or typing it, now and again.

I wonder how many others notice it too and what other examples they may have heard from new riders

the left side clutch lever, right side throttle grip tube, rear cooling fan, rear shock, front forks, front steering stem, front triple trees, rear swingarm ...
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86129squids
Posted on Saturday, June 08, 2013 - 12:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

... bored much?
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Kilroy
Posted on Saturday, June 08, 2013 - 12:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

rear brake light
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Strokizator
Posted on Saturday, June 08, 2013 - 02:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Not motorcycle related but "hot water heater" really bugs me now that you mention it. Same with "rear windshield" on a car.
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Slaughter
Posted on Saturday, June 08, 2013 - 03:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Back in the 1970s when everybody was trying to get more travel, there was a MX racer who DID modify the rear suspension using FORKS.

Harley (Aermacchi) may have built their early works 250cc with rear forks in the 70s.

Article WITH pics of the works machine:

Harley 250 MX



(Message edited by slaughter on June 08, 2013)
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Aesquire
Posted on Saturday, June 08, 2013 - 07:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It's the germanic influence on the English language and mechanics.

German is an agglutinative language, it just takes a root word and adds prefixes and suffixes to suit.

At one time the German word for "electric pencil sharpener" was ( badly translated...) "electric-mechanical-point-making-machine"

If you consider the evolution and history of, say, motorcycle forks, from it's bicycle roots, what you have on your bike is almost certainly a telescopic fork. The "telescopic" part has been dropped from general usage, since almost all of them are, today, and that feature is taken for granted. The BMW "telelever" brand name is meant to be descriptive, in that agglutination style of terms.

In cases where there is a front and rear item, like brake calipers, it makes perfect sense to specify.

I suspect the redundant use of positional words in part descriptions is from the Manuals written for generations in a desperate search for a way to describe mechanical objects to idiots. You know, us.

Then again, I'm not a language expert. Could be wrong.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Saturday, June 08, 2013 - 07:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

VIN number.
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Froggy
Posted on Saturday, June 08, 2013 - 09:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Do you ever type your personal PIN number into the automated ATM machine?
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Kilroy
Posted on Sunday, June 09, 2013 - 04:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

ATM machine
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Doz
Posted on Sunday, June 09, 2013 - 07:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I keep wanting to type in an oxymoron, BUT...why isn't an elevator called a de-elevator when going down?
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Ourdee
Posted on Sunday, June 09, 2013 - 07:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Because it is still elevating.
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Ourdee
Posted on Sunday, June 09, 2013 - 07:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

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Oldog
Posted on Sunday, June 09, 2013 - 01:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

A friend of mine did the forks as rear suspension experiment on his CZ IIRC it did not work too well.
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Sunday, June 09, 2013 - 02:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

damn I wish they would come back with a light dirty mud slinger
sumnabiatch
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Nik
Posted on Sunday, June 09, 2013 - 03:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'd rather have a front swingarm and no forks...
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