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Cityxslicker
Posted on Monday, May 20, 2013 - 08:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

legally...

and when they write the rules - they get to
say what is 'legal'

I think it is time for more than Tea in the harbor
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Oldog
Posted on Monday, May 20, 2013 - 09:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

A good many points on obama's personality, education and past were brought up in "2016 obama's america" If you can find it I suggest that you rent it and watch it.

The Journos' and the edu/elites did this with castro - BTW how did that work exactly?
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Fb1
Posted on Monday, May 20, 2013 - 12:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Oldog, you'll remember that True the Vote is trying to prove or disprove vote fraud in the Allen West v. Patrick Murphy campaign in Florida.

True the Vote - and organizations like it - are VERY dangerous for the Democrat party. Hence, none of this will come as news to you or I:


quote:

The tormenting of True the Vote
Posted by William A. Jacobson Monday, May 20, 2013 at 11:00am

Of all the groups singled out by the IRS, True the Vote seemed to get extra special treatment, in a bad way:

True the Vote founder Catherine Englebrecht doesn’t want to believe the federal government singled her out. But…

“These are odd days,” she said.

Three years ago, her group asked the IRS for tax-exempt status. They’re still waiting.

Source, more: http://legalinsurrection.com/2013/05/the-tormentin g-of-true-the-vote/




Unbelievable harassament of True the Vote after applying for tax exempt status
http://www.therightscoop.com/unbelievable-harassam ent-of-true-the-vote-after-applying-for-tax-exempt -status/




http://youtu.be/wrxI878HjKc
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Oldog
Posted on Monday, May 20, 2013 - 02:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Red Flag
BATF gun serial numbers
2 visits?

Same $hit Different Day....
Obama says he no'es not....

IRS, BATF, OSHA!, FBI.
We have people being killed on our soil and the administration is so desperate to hold power that they waste resources on $hit like this.

One of our rights under the constitution it to petition grievance on our government, to have it dealt with in a reasonable manner.

Failing that pass the ammo....

Ferris,
would a reasonable start be a hand written letter
dealing with the issue to your state senator and regional rep? Perhaps requesting an hearing on impeachment of barry and joey.
Provide them a list of issues also request that Holder and all other obama appointees be removed from office at once.

That there be a top down house cleaning, any upper level official who was complicit with this nonsense be fired. Face it I don't know means you don't manage your department....

One common thread that seems to differentiate the two groups in Washington DC.
You have Public servants who are interested in serving their country.
You have others who are there to push their agenda, Obama and his clan fit this. Either they failed to learn histories lessons. Or they are deliberately attempting to bring the USA down.
In MY EYES OBAMA BIDEN PELOSI REID HOLDER and others are all part of this plan

Think on this to destroy this country THEY need to
1. disarm the citizens sandy hook gun grab
2. ruin the economy ( create dependence on the govt )
3. control the flow of information. (ap wire tap and more )
4. userp the rule of law (the admin cant get any thing done except by exec order ) the house is tied up in committees trying sort this out.



Obama's mid level aide saying that these scandals are "Irrelevant", Very disturbing

Some how "Pass the ammo" is not so funny,

Hey I rode the 1125 for a few miles I am wanting to finish fitting hard bags to it.


(Message edited by oldog on May 20, 2013)
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Fb1
Posted on Monday, May 20, 2013 - 03:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ferris,
would a reasonable start be a hand written letter
dealing with the issue to your state senator and regional rep?


Well, that SHOULD be a good start, amigo; we're well beyond that, of course.

The issue of impeachment would go nowhere in the Senate, so would have the same effect on Barry as it did on Slick, i.e., absolutely no effect at all.

IF we could take back the senate in 2014, and retain control of the house, then an impeachment conviction stands a chance.

Which, of course, is one of the reasons the Demorats have been mucking around with the vote so hard since Barry took over in '08. He BARELY won reelection last November (actually, he didn't win at all, of course). Ten million LESS people voted for him in '12 as did in '08, yet somehow he still managed to "win" in a squeaker, by a mere 400,000 votes spread among four of the swing states, an average of 100,000 votes per state. Vote fraud? Yeah, and then some.

He doesn't care how he "won," of course, only that he's still the big dog. That's the MO for his entire life, actually.

Anyway, as much as I'd like to bend the ear of some folks in Congress, they already know - much better than you or I - what we're dealing with. It remains to be seen whether they can successfully excise the cancer in the White House.

Our chances of remaining a constitutional republic grow dimmer by the day...
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Fb1
Posted on Monday, May 20, 2013 - 04:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


quote:

Obama and the IRS: The Smoking Gun?
President met with anti-Tea Party IRS union chief the day before agency targeted Tea Party.

By Jeffrey Lord on 5.20.13

“For me, it’s about collaboration.” — National Treasury Employees Union President Colleen Kelley on the relationship between the anti-Tea Party IRS union and the Obama White House

Is President Obama directly implicated in the IRS scandal?

Is the White House Visitors Log the trail to the smoking gun?

The stunning questions are raised by the following set of new facts.



Source, more: http://spectator.org/archives/2013/05/20/obama-and -the-irs-the-smoking
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Fb1
Posted on Monday, May 20, 2013 - 05:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


http://youtu.be/ZCMDur9CDZ4

Liar.
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Tuesday, May 21, 2013 - 12:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Lenin: Learn it, because this chump loves it

It is particularly important to state correctly the relationship between the notorious liquidationist slogan of “freedom of association” and the objectives of political liberty in general. It is highly important to point out that freedom of the press, association, assembly and strikes is absolutely indispensable to the workers, but that it is precisely in order to bring it about that we must realise the inseparable connection between it and the general foundations of political liberty, a radical change in the entire political system. Not the liberal utopia of freedom of association under the June Third regime, but a struggle for freedom in general, and for freedom of association in particular, against this regime all along the line, against the foundations of this regime.

But there is another point which is highly important in our day. It is a reference to the present situation and the tasks of socialism throughout the world. What are the characteristics of this situation? (a) An extreme aggravation of the struggle between the working class and the bourgeoisie (high cost of living, mass strikes, the imperialism of the Powers, their fierce competition over markets and their nearness to war), and (b) the nearness of the realisation of socialism. The working class of the world is fighting not for recognition of its right to have a socialist party, but for power, and for the organisation of society along new lines. It is highly important to say so from the Duma platform, to tell the workers of Russia about the beginning of the great battles for socialism in Europe and America, about the nearness of the triumph (inevitable triumph) of socialism in the civilised world. " Lenin 1908 on the Support of Open Speach and Land Reform

he is not lying - he is using the rhetoric, mantra and tactics of the dialectic; line for line, meme for meme - and when you know this you can see how he leads a dumb undereducated populus to the 'enivitable' conclusions he and his Master's agendas are driving for.
There is no absolute truth-it is all only relative and conditional; and as there is no truth to anything he says.... there can be no lie.
It is a crafted Pavlovian charade to get the sheep to meh on command

it is how programs get to be 'budget neutral'..... when you haven't passed a 'budget' in four years - .... yep - they don't affect the Budget and are thus ... Budget NEUTRAL
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Fb1
Posted on Tuesday, May 21, 2013 - 07:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

City, how do you see the next three and half years going down? 0bama has proven he can - so far - get away with murder. If we take back the senate next year, which I think is entirely possible, and retain the House, then Congress will have the majority to actually DO something about him.

All the additional crap that's hitting the fan right now: I can't help but think that we are being played like fish. 0bama has, via numerous executive orders, put in place the mechanism by which he can take over literally every aspect of American life. What he needs, of course, is a BIG domestic crisis to justify pulling this toy out of his toy box.

He's very vulnerable politically in next year's mid-terms. Heck, he's so politically fragile he couldn't even get gun control through a Democrat-controlled Senate.

He (and his minions in the IRS, DOJ, HHS, EPA, ATF, etc.) have mucked with the integrity of the voting process at every turn during his presidency, but it all seems to be catching up to him.

Is this by design? Does he want (or need) a huge domestic crisis before November 2014 so he can play the martial law card?

Lastly, he's smart but not THAT smart. Who, exactly, is pulling his strings?
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Blake
Posted on Tuesday, May 21, 2013 - 09:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2328031/Re port-Justice-Department-targeted-TWO-Fox-News-repo rters-producer-talking-government-sources.html

http://m.nbcdfw.com/nbcdfw/pm_108184/contentdetail .htm?contentguid=0gFSY6rc

http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2013/05/21/pjm-excl usive-ex-diplomats-report-new-benghazi-whistleblow ers-with-info-devastating-to-clinton-and-obama/

http://mobile.spectator.org/theamericanspectator/#!/entry/obama-and-the-irs-the-smoking-gun,5199f844 da27f5d9d0c8360d


Fast and Furious

Benghazi Lies & Cover-Up

IRS Partisan Corruption

DOJ Partisan Corruption

"Workplace Violence" Characterization of Islamist Attack

Attacking Our 2nd Amendment Rights

Violating the Freedom of the Press

Fomenting Revolution

Enough?
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Tuesday, May 21, 2013 - 09:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

just looking at the lies and cr@p....
I say it gets hot. guns, violence, mayhem; and it is designed to do such - they are looking; hell BEGGING for the first one to pop a shot off and give them their version of Concord - so they can impose steeper, deeper, and more militant controls

he doesn't finish this term.
his historical parallels are entirely too much Romanov in character, despite his Leninist charade ( he is not smart enough to this Leninist - it is well grafted and spoon fed to him via tel - a - prompter)
He is only a shadow of the evil that waits in the wings.

and soon.

Let me posit how it happens. Turn off the spicket. All of the entitlements go to zero - WIC/EBT/Medicare/Medicaid/SSI/SSA etc - and it will be blamed on the Republicans
leave the faucet off for 90 days - total collapse; they envision we will beg for a new normal of Federal imposition.

I will be overseas or dead.
Y'all enjoy the show.
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Tuesday, May 21, 2013 - 09:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

watch VERY carefully what FEMA/NG/DHS does with the tornado in Oklahoma
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Chauly
Posted on Tuesday, May 21, 2013 - 10:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

How did O start a tornado? GeeDee?
HAARP? Chemtrails?

How Conveeeenient...
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Reindog
Posted on Tuesday, May 21, 2013 - 10:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)



I have had enough of this criminal. He is not welcome in our house anymore so we switched to watching "Civil War Journal" when his face came on television about the Oklahoma tornado. Obama must be jubilant this morning.
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Tuesday, May 21, 2013 - 11:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

of course he did not create the tornado... but has he and his minions have said on several occasions
Never let a good crisis go to waste.

watch and learn
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Oldog
Posted on Tuesday, May 21, 2013 - 11:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

How did O start a tornado? GeeDee?
HAARP? Chemtrails?

How Conveeeenient...


I don't think that is what was meant

I think }watch VERY carefully what FEMA/NG/DHS does with the tornado in Oklahoma

means watch how its handled by the various agencies.

It will be interesting to watch.
In light of all of the information coming to light on the misdeeds of the current admin.

BTW were are those bullets going again?,
Why does DHS / FEMA need them, we have the
ARMY, NAVY, MARINES, AIR FORCE, COAST GUARD, and RESERVES, FBI, and Local / State law enforcement

My understanding was DHS was to coordinate all of the information and help sharing between the various agencies. TSA is to secure the air traffic.

From History ...

During the revolutionary war, the British confiscated food ammunition and weapons from the citizens of the colonies, to deny it to the colonial rebels.

interesting coincidence.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/04/26/reps-ch allenge-dhs-ammo-buys-say-agency-using-1000-more-r ounds-per-person-than/

I can't change the facts I can pay attention and be warry
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Tuesday, May 21, 2013 - 11:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"I've met with Secretary Napolitano, this morning, and my Homeland Security and Counter Terrorism adviser Lisa Monaco to underscore that point that Oklahoma needs to get everything that it needs right away."

and why is Lisa Monaco involved in this at all ? it is a natural disaster, not an instance of Terrorism..... unless they plan to label those that defend their homes and families with guns for self defense as Terrorists.....

um yeah.
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Oldog
Posted on Tuesday, May 21, 2013 - 01:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

why is Lisa Monaco involved in this at all

have you ever listened to sec HS she is as dumb as a box of rocks, I found her interview by Rep Trey Goudy (R) SC entertaining,
I can't remember or I did not know is the mantra of this bunch.

she may have a brain...}
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Tuesday, May 21, 2013 - 01:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Never let a crisis go to waste;
Boxer was on the floor this morning railing for a Carbon Tax to fight Global warming and BLAMED Republicans for obstructionism and ALLOWING the catastrophe tornado in UT to happen......

http://dailycaller.com/2013/05/21/boxer-uses-okla- tornado-to-push-carbon-tax/

you just cant make shiate up this stupid -
watch and learn, more to come - the day is early yet.
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Oldog
Posted on Tuesday, May 21, 2013 - 03:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

No surprise there,
Boxer, Fienstine, Pelosi,
the new PC three stooges

I have watched and listened to them on Utube / Cspan folks elect them because they don't think // get free stuff, its all right
CA is heading for the brink, its a microcosm of obamas america, to borrow a phrase "watch and learn"

I refuse to believe that the majority of the folks from California think like that
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Reindog
Posted on Tuesday, May 21, 2013 - 04:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Oldog,

guote:"I refuse to believe that the majority of the folks from California think like that"

Sorry to say but it is true. Living here is like being in "The Invasion of the Body Snatchers." My co-workers love Obama so much that I have been told to STFU. I can't understand how smart people can be so stupid. Their blind allegiance is what scares me.

--Reporting from San Diego.
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Fb1
Posted on Tuesday, May 21, 2013 - 05:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


quote:

IRS Official to plead the Fifth before Congress

A top IRS official in the division that reviews nonprofit groups will invoke the Fifth Amendment and refuse to answer questions before a House committee investigating the agency’s improper screening of conservative nonprofit groups.

Lois Lerner, the head of the exempt organizations division of the IRS, won’t answer questions about what she knew about the improper screening – or why she didn’t reveal it to Congress, according to a letter from her defense lawyer, William W. Taylor 3rd.

Lerner was scheduled to appear before the House Oversight committee Wednesday.

Source, more: http://www.therightscoop.com/irs-official-to-plead -the-fifth-before-congress/



The Preezy gets to invoke executive privilege. I guess everyone else gets to plead the Fifth.

Is she protecting herself?

Is she protecting someone else??

Is she protecting herself from someone else???

Does the IRS (and the White House) stink like being downwind from a slaughterhouse on a hot August afternoon????

Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes.
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Sifo
Posted on Tuesday, May 21, 2013 - 06:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The problem is that investigations like this tend to start with the people at the top and work their way down. Any criminal investigation turns the screws on the low level people first and offers immunity if they will spill the beans. Until this is done, the investigation is easy to stonewall. I hope they eventually go after the low level people who know who told them to do this.
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Sifo
Posted on Tuesday, May 21, 2013 - 07:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)



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Fb1
Posted on Tuesday, May 21, 2013 - 07:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Her lawyer said in his letter to Issa that since she's gonna plead the Fifth anyway, would it be OK if she simply not even appear before Congress, since pleading the Fifth in public would be embarrassing.

Issa responded with a subpoena. : )

Also, her lawyer says she has committed no wrongdoing. Isn't the point of the Fifth Amendment to allow a person not to incriminate themselves? If she's as pure as the driven snow, why should she need the protection afforded by the Fifth Amendment?

I hope she testifies. Embarrassed? Yes, I am, by the whole lot of them.

PS: It occurs to me that 0bama's IRS has pissed all over the Constitution during his presidency. Ironic that they're now hiding behind it...
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Aesquire
Posted on Tuesday, May 21, 2013 - 08:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I still think THIS is the cover up.

What about the guns to Syria?

What happened to the "red line" Obama "drew"? ( hint, Russia? )

Support for Islamofascist revolutionary groups, sure, but where? Syria? Turkey? Detroit?

It's what's NOT being covered that I'm worried about.

It's a really messed up planet when Glenn Beck becomes the only reputable source for news.

( for those drinking the Media Koolaid, and Hate Beck, Rush, etc., Beck was right... Predicting the Housing Crisis, and why. Obama's past and present associations with the Communist Party, the Socialist New Party and his training from Communist revolutionaries, from at least his grade school days. The Gun Grab, ongoing. Benghazi, etc.etc.etc. )
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Fb1
Posted on Tuesday, May 21, 2013 - 08:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


quote:

Tyranny Is No Longer 'Lurking'
By Cal Thomas · May 21, 2013

Given last week's revelation that the IRS targeted conservative groups seeking tax-exempt status, it's worth recalling President Obama's Ohio State University commencement address. The president decried "voices" warning "that tyranny is always lurking just around the corner."

It's no longer lurking. It's here.



Source, more: http://patriotpost.us/opinion/18275
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Aesquire
Posted on Tuesday, May 21, 2013 - 08:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/leaks_turn_t o_deluge_for_reeling_98wAReXDfwgYcFiCmXHB3L
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Reindog
Posted on Tuesday, May 21, 2013 - 09:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I just saw the term "The United States of Chicago" and thought that was pretty funny.
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Fb1
Posted on Wednesday, May 22, 2013 - 09:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

At 9:30 AM this morning, Lois Lerner will testify (or plead the fifth) at a House Oversight Committee hearing on the IRS targeting Tea Party groups:

http://www.c-span.org/Live-Video/C-SPAN3/
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