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Blake
Posted on Saturday, March 16, 2013 - 07:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Bushmaster AR15: $875 + tax

http://www.gandermountain.com/modperl/product/deta ils.cgi?pdesc=Bushmaster-Carbon-15-Centerfire-Rifl e-Package&i=GM442164&aID=510E3C&merchID=4006

5.1 LBs empty. Impressive.
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Blake
Posted on Saturday, March 16, 2013 - 07:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mosins again available...

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.ph p/cPath/1089/products_id/411540200/VIP+FAST+TRACK/ Mosin-Nagant%2091/30%207.62X54R%20Excellent%20Cond ition/
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Rick_a
Posted on Saturday, March 16, 2013 - 08:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The Carbon 15 is the most hideous AR I've even come across. Puts a new meaning to the old Mattel rifle moniker the old guys like to use.

Mosins are cool. They were selling for $80-$90 not long ago. They seem to be increasing in popularity, making it easier to find ammo locally for my PSL.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Saturday, March 16, 2013 - 09:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The short mosins are especially fun to shoot, they put on quite the pyrotechnic display. Many will seize the bolt if you shoot them enough that they start getting hot... This would be a problem on many guns, but not on a Mosin. Because its a Mosin, you just pound the bolt back open with your foot, a rock, or the nearest panzer, and start shooting again.

Another great under-appreciated brand is CZ. Fantastic utility handguns, rifles, and shotguns. Think German designers with Russian pragmatism.
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Saturday, March 16, 2013 - 12:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Not a black gun, but I am on the hunt for an AR-7
A nice little compact 22 that breaks down quickly.
Finding one though - OUCH
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Sifo
Posted on Saturday, March 16, 2013 - 05:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

This is slightly off topic, but rather than upset folks with another non-bike thread...

SWAT officer attracts ridicule after he’s pictured with his rifle sight on backwards



It's scary as all hell to think that a SWAT team member would ever not notice that his optics were mounted backward, much less show up at an actual live action SWAT call. That doesn't seem to say much about the training police get in NY. It's hard not to notice that the reticle doesn't show up when you turn it on, assuming you have a clue what that thing is supposed to do for you. I also wonder if the one with his finger resting on the trigger of the shotgun is actually about to shoot that thing? Not very good trigger control being displayed IMO.
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Loki
Posted on Saturday, March 16, 2013 - 08:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

There are so many puns about this backwards optic.

Went to a gun show this afternoon. Too many rubes are out there buying stuff. Watched a guy pick up a carbine, bolt closed, and look down the barrel from the muzzle.
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Aesquire
Posted on Saturday, March 16, 2013 - 08:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

AR-7's are sweet. Easy to clean, surprisingly accurate. Fairly rudimentary peep sight, though, and you can't fold it with a scope on. Sight works, once you've zero'd it, but not a Williams for ease of zero'ing.

I had a Charter Arms early model that was overstamped from Armalite stock. Allow barrel with steel liner. Floated.

Henry makes them now.

Actually an excellent choice in the "one gun" thread....
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Hybridmomentspass
Posted on Sunday, March 17, 2013 - 05:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The Carbon 15 is the most hideous AR I've even come across. Puts a new meaning to the old Mattel rifle moniker the old guys like to use. "

not my choice in weapon
but not the worst AR I've seen
I cant recall the company, but theres a brand (aftermarket style company or something) that makes one with an externally twisted barrel and skulls all over it. HORRIBLE!
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Swampy
Posted on Thursday, March 21, 2013 - 10:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I bought another AK last weekend.
I think I am going to give it to my brother-in-law. It came with a drum and 500 rounds of ammo. Some guy used it for hunting, it had a 3X9 mounted on the bolt cover...EEK! gotta get some serious optics!
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Hybridmomentspass
Posted on Thursday, March 21, 2013 - 11:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

found it

Black Rain
http://www.blackrainordnance.com/index.php/product s/bro-pg3
GROSS!
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Friday, March 22, 2013 - 03:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

because 'black' is good; skulls are better!
http://www.blackrainordnance.com/index.php/product s/custom-11

they must have hired some of the H-D styling guys when the moto market collapsed
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Aesquire
Posted on Friday, March 22, 2013 - 04:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm perverted enough to not be fond of that, but dig a "hello kitty" version........... just to annoy people.
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Swampy
Posted on Friday, March 22, 2013 - 11:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Owh....Nice...a piston gun to function as reliably as an AK....LOL!

My AR is wearing pink hardware to make it less dangerous. I want to get the Hello Kitty emblems put on the receiver.
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Blake
Posted on Friday, March 22, 2013 - 11:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Me want...

http://youtu.be/9155MuJcT88

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Rick_a
Posted on Saturday, March 23, 2013 - 10:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Not a bullpup fan here. Slower to reload, only a few are fully ambidextrous (being able to instantly go from one shoulder to the other is good), funky balance, poor triggers, long lengths of pull, and generally poor ergonomics.

The AUG is nice, but a bit heavy, and a terrible trigger. The FS2000 is nice, but is very bulky. The PS90 is nice, but I'm not a huge fan of the caliber. The RFB is actually pretty nice, but it's still a bit too funky for me, and isn't known for great accuracy.
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Brinnutz
Posted on Sunday, March 24, 2013 - 10:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The wife's AR.



(Message edited by brinnutz on March 25, 2013)
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Rick_a
Posted on Tuesday, March 26, 2013 - 11:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Once the other side of this barrel makes it back to me, I'll have an AR to put together.
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Nukeblue
Posted on Tuesday, March 26, 2013 - 01:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

OK i'll bite... what's that?? gonna screw in on a shorty?
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Rick_a
Posted on Tuesday, March 26, 2013 - 03:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Naww. I ordered a 16" upper, as that's what was available. The other 10.5" of barrel is out to get threaded.
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Aesquire
Posted on Tuesday, March 26, 2013 - 10:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It varies from barrel to barrel, YMMV, 1x9 twist is good for all the lighter bullets, and works fine for me with 62 gr. OTM Black Hills. I noticed 68 gr. OTM's weren't as accurate, but they didn't tumble, and mostly the local Gander didn't have them, just the 62's. ( this last summer )

Haven't tried 77's, but they may not work as well. The "regular" 55 gr. Win. white box and Rem. bulk packs work perfectly with that twist.

As stated, YMMV.
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Kenm123t
Posted on Tuesday, March 26, 2013 - 11:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

1 in 8.25 has been pretty good as have 1x7 but the 1x7s do not last as long unless you use a wylde chamber or one of the other long leade throats
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Sifo
Posted on Wednesday, March 27, 2013 - 04:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What to get for the gun person who has everything?



Muzzle Shots! Anodized aluminum A2 flash suppressor shot glasses! A bit pricey, but guaranteed to make an impression. Made in America too.

http://muzzleshot.com/#home
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Kenm123t
Posted on Wednesday, March 27, 2013 - 05:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

AMMO SIFO you can never have too much unless the plane cant fly or the boat sinks in either case fire some off till you get your weight and balance correct
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Rick_a
Posted on Friday, April 05, 2013 - 10:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Just finished this today.


It may be slightly better than a double barreled shotgun.
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Blake
Posted on Friday, April 05, 2013 - 11:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Nice.

These any good?...

http://www.tacticalvantage.com/en/colt/524-col-a16 -ar-15-223-42-round-magazine-black-polymer.html
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Rick_a
Posted on Saturday, April 06, 2013 - 01:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've actually never seen those before. Conventional AR mags over 30rds have had a dubious reputation. ProMags in general tend to be a bit of a crap shoot for reliability to begin with. I'd stick with Magpul or the various GI specs in a 30rd capacity or less.
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Blake
Posted on Sunday, April 07, 2013 - 05:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Exactly what I was thinking. I don't think they are even a ProMag product.
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Bluzm2
Posted on Wednesday, April 10, 2013 - 12:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sifo,
Saw those a while back, tempted... really tempted.
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Spatten1
Posted on Wednesday, April 10, 2013 - 04:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That Tavor video is great! I was in Israel last year and they are everywhere. Awesome gun!

20 years ago when I was there the fighters had Galils, which were basically AKs chambered for .223. The cooks and girls had Uzis. Now it's all M-16s (M-4s) and Tavors.
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