| Author | Message | ||
     Blake |
http://www.gaugemate.com/ Rifled and everything. | ||
| Rick_a |
Being able to shoulder fire via the buffer tube is what makes the AR pistol practical over other types of rifle caliber pistols. With a 10-12" barrel they're small enough to be all day packable yet accurate enough to have a ~400 yard range. That and my 1911 and I'd have all I need. I don't understand the fascination with the AA12. They've been trying to market that to the military for some 30 years as far as I can tell, and nobody has bit. The Saiga 12 and Benelli M4 are solid, proven semi-autos that you can actually own. With a SlideFire stock you can rock and roll with a Saiga like a full auto if you wanted to. For semi-auto shotguns the old Remington 1100 works well enough for me. | ||
| Hybridmomentspass |
AR either my .22 MP15-22 or my Troy 5.56 | ||
| Ninefortheroad |
No one here is another Carlos H.! The AA12 is impractical in the short run, heavy weapon and bulky ammo. Scatterguns and slugs have a very limited range You are also not likely to find one readily available. Fun to speculate, just not a realistic option. Much rather have any quality 22lr. over a shotgun for the only one gun game. The one gun thing is fun to talk about but also very unrealistic. But for the sake of fun, why not.... a bolt action 30-06/308/223? or a lever in 30-30? or a 9mm carbine like the Beretta CX4? or H+K USC in 45 ACP? Back to the thought about Carlos H. ...it is all about the person operating what ever the firearm  I do not plan to be limited to one or two or three...firearms because I am not Carlos! (Message edited by Ninefortheroad on March 03, 2013) | ||
| Sifo |
If we are going to consider conversions, I would say an AR-15 chambered in 5.56 along with the .22 conversion BCG and mag. | ||
| Yjsrule |
Converted Saiga in 5.56. Semi auto 22 would work too.  | ||
| Ninefortheroad |
Yjsrule: Nice work and great concept. I had a Norinco 223 AK many years ago! should have kept it.! | ||
| Rick_a |
What's Hathcock got to do with it? Let the man rest. | ||
| Buellinmke |
Obama gonna take your guns! PM me if you want an AR!!! Only $8500 for a colt AR!! | ||
| Blake |
My local gun shop is selling DPMS AR's for under $2K. Their bull barreled AR10 from DPMS was listed at $1,950. | ||
| Rick_a |
Hunters and sportsmen can keep their guns (after all, he is one of them, he says), but a magazine and arbitrary black rifle ban saves the children, dontcha know? Blake, that's still way too much. Those were selling for around $1200 before the scare. | ||
| Ninefortheroad |
My LGS has various S&W, Spikes ect for $1250 to $1600. Not bad considering the market. Several AK variants for a reasonable price. Had the stuff to put a 16" Spikes together for about $1200 My Wally W. had a DPMS flat top OR for $600, didn't last long. Locally, the real problem is ammo! | ||
| Reepicheep |
I got a pellet rifle for the kids... a no-name brand made in mexico. Cost me $45 or something, nice wood stock, and that thing sends a little .177 caliber pellet shrieking downrange and its really accurate. | ||
| Blake |
I agree Rick. Just putting a little reality in front of our fellow Buell riding buddy from Milwaukee. | ||
| Buellinachinashop |
My first thought was the FNAR, .308, in a short bull barell, but thinking about it, you'd blow a rabbit or squirrel to pieces. So I'd probably go with the Ruger SR-22. The thing I love the most is the all steel construction.  | ||
| Macbuell |
AR15 in .223. Effective range from the end of the barrel out to 400 Yards. That should cover most engagements. | ||
| Stalker |
No such thing as a DPMS AR-10. The only company that makes an AR-10 is Armalite. | ||
| Nukeblue |
wow china, that piece has everything but a real caliber!  | ||
| Sifo |
I'll put the gun I do have up against the gun you wish you have any day. | ||
| Hybridmomentspass |
"AR15 in .223. Effective range from the end of the barrel out to 400 Yards. That should cover most engagements." go 5.56 so you can do 5.56 AND .223 since this is a SHTF situation, you'll have more options of ammo Love mine But, id be torn between that and my 22 S&W MP15-22, cause it'd be quieter to not attract as many people to my location | ||
| Mnrider |
Tough call but my 15-22 would be the one unless I had tons of .223 5.56 ammo. | ||
| Macbuell |
I only said .223 because it the ammo is more commonly available but you are correct. My AR is chambered 5.56 so it can shoot .223 as well. | ||
| 99savage |
If everything has gone to h' & likely to stay that way for awhile it would be insanity to depend on anything that takes batteries (Personally I think it is even when conditions are normal.) Range? If you live in the East look around your as you move about & see how many situations you encounter where the functional range exceeds 100M. - Having done that see how many would remain when in the prone or even sitting position. - In the East, range way overrated. | ||
| Reepicheep |
I'd assume you have to carry what you shoot, so I'd be in the .22 long gun camp. Either a bolt action or a 10/22, synthetic stock and stainless would be nice. You could carry around 5000 rounds of ammo practically, which in a doomsday scenario, would probably be several lifetimes worth. Long term, an air rifle would be nice. I could probably make ammo for that indefinitely by scrounging and using stone age tools. Not sure what I would do for replacement seals, but they would be easier to stock than ammo. | ||
| Sifo |
I bet a crafty person could manage to make a working seal out of leather in a pinch. | ||
| Reepicheep |
Probably true, leather and animal fat. Lewis and Clark had what was reported to be a very effective 50 cal air rifle during their effort to discover a western passage. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Girandoni_Air_Rifle  | ||
| Ulyranger |
I have a hard time envisioning how I would be limited to only one gun......but I'll play along. It would definitely be in .22LR without question. Ammo availability and carrying capacity makes this a non-question IMHO. Now, the question is, the Ruger 10/22 or the Marlin lever M39 breakdown? I could go either way...... If the current availability of most popular high power calibers isn't giving everyone a serious wake up call as to how fragile the ammunition industry is.....then I don't know what will. Wait till something Real happens...... | ||
| Nukeblue |
.22 isn't all that easy to find these days either... | ||
| Reepicheep |
That's the only part of this whole situation that surprised me... I can see many calibers getting hard to find. But 9mm and .22 LR? I *never* thought that stuff would be hard to get. I think by the time this rush is done and the bubble is burst, American citizens are going to have staggeringly big stockpiles of ammo. At least they will here in the midwest and south. | ||
| Macbuell |
So everyone is fond of the .22lr. What about a 9mm Carbine? Ammo is plentiful and not heavy and has proven stopping power. I read an article recently that said a 9mm round out of a 16 inch barrel has as much energy as a .357. |
