..just read about it ,too.Did 4 tours in "The Sandbox" and gets killed here.....Whiskey Tango Foxtrot....really sad.+1 to something is missing here..not the whole story being told....who knows somethings not quite right.And if we'll "get the whole story".LT
Yea, according to msnbc site it was a 25-year-old military veteran with severe PTSD. ????? Why would they give a gun to someone with severe PTSD? The details will come out soon enough... hopefully.
Why would they give a gun to someone with severe PTSD?
who's "giving" anyone a gun? if anyone asked, maybe he lied about it; there is quite a stigma around depression/PTSD, especailly in the military and veteran community.
This is pure speculation but I read his book and he started a non profit to support people suffering from PTSD and had a retreat in Texas for those guys to chill out and work through their problems.Maby he was trying to help someone out and it went bad wrong?
Saw this earlier and couldn't bring myself to share it. Kyle had 160 confirmed kills, which made him America's most productive sniper ever. And he was working with soldiers suffering with PTSD to help them recover. What a darn shame.
I don't mean to disrespect anyone in any way shape or form, just have some thoughts.
He advertised his doings in a book and walked amongst us normal folk doing good deeds. Even some of the nazi's knew enough to run away to Brazil and hide to keep from being found.... just saying that probably should not have advertised his face. And when I said cross anyone, I meant verbally outted someone in the book like soldier, a general or someone political, the 160 was an obvious item.
Whether it was some plan, some fluke accident or the PTSD kid just went bonkers it is still terrible tragedy.
I don't see how he compared him to Nazis But even if he did, youre only a supporter of him because he killed for your country - same as many Germans (and military and political leaders worldwide) praised people like Rommel
Get your panties out of a bunch, digital did nothing wrong
What I've gathered from the interwebz so far is he and another Marine were killed trying to help another seriously troubled veteran- what a crying shame.
This fella was really doing great things to help his brothers. Godspeed, Sir!
Blake...I truly meant no disrespect to anyone. Wasn't comparing the deeds of this American Hero to the deeds of the evil Nazi's. Just pointing out that they both had adversaries "for whatever reason" and would probably have stay out of site to live out their lives in peace.
It is sad, sorry an operator like him had to go; he would have been well needed in what is coming.
I honestly don't understand how he gets to write about where he was, what he did and for how many cookies. Shiat - they have a muzzle on me for 25 years after separation and I was a freaking 'desk' jockey.
All I get to recount is what the PAO has published, and I am still banned from traveling to Russia. wtf.
on the other hand - I did order his book from Amazon; and looking forward to it
Cut and paste to be sure but not all heroes wear the uniform
As news floods out about hostage standoff coming to an end and the main stream media focuses on the kidnapper who boarded a bus and took a 5 year old boy hostage for days. Let's not forget one man - Charles Poland.
My inbox had some very touching stories about Charles Poland. You know, the guy who stood up to the kidnapper and blocked his way on the bus so 21 other kids could escape out the back. The guy that took 4 bullets protecting "his kids" on the bus with his very life.
At Charles' funeral kids that rode his bus read letters to his family:
"Courtney H wrote: ‘To the best hero in the world. ‘You didn’t deserve to die but you died knowing that you kept everyone safe. ‘Being on your bus was the best time of my life. Since you’ve been the nicest person Ill be the same way.’ She added: ‘I’ll miss you forever.’
In another, Courtney B recalled: ‘He’d bring bottles of water on hot summer days and before holiday breaks he’d bring us cookies.’
These and other fulsome tributes were made in front of Mr Poland’s family – his widow Mary-Janice supported by her daughter Lydia and son Aaron."
The shocking thing is that it appears that Charles brough food to, and visited his killer the morning of the shooting:
After finishing his morning route, the 66-year old driver returned to Dykes's home, bringing him a basket of eggs and jam. Hours later Dykes repaid that act with shocking violence. Rev Ray Layton said: ‘I believe it was Tuesday morning that Brother Chuck went and saw this man. ‘He took him some eggs and jam. ‘He loved him when not many others did not.’
Ron Hutchcraft had a very touching story based on Charles today, he said:
...There was talk at the Super Bowl of "heroes" in the game. But the real hero this week was a man who drove a school bus.
His daughter said that he always considered his young passengers as "his kids." Yes, he did. He put himself between them and the danger.
I can't watch that story without two things happening. My heart is moved. And I think about Jesus. So did people at his funeral this weekend. One fellow bus driver said, "What Chuck did was the same thing Jesus Christ did. He laid down his life to defend those schoolchildren."
Those words are right out of the Bible. "This is how we know what love is: Jesus Christ laid down His life for us" (1 John 4:16).
So as the media will most likely focus on the killer and the gun, let's not forget the hero in this story.
Posted on Wednesday, February 06, 2013 - 01:40 am:
I am a Marine, been deployed to Afghanistan, pretty much as far as PTSD works not everyone is violent or cannot be trusted, some don't even get in a fire fight, they here a mortar go off and are scared forever. Some of us just can't sleep, fits of paranoia, and other physiological manifestations. I did like Mtnmason's post, "service member", most throw Marines under the bus which the msnbc article did not fail to do, so thank you Mtnmason.
Mr. Kyle lost his life doing the right thing, helping those who needed it most regardless of the risk. I will bet a crisp $100 bill that Mr. Kyle would have still helped that disturbed young man even if he had known the true danger that man presented. My impression after reading his book was that after serving his country he was compelled to reach out and help those who needed it most and that is a most honorable service, thank you Mr. Kyle. prayers for your family
>>> you're only a supporter of him because he killed for your country
False.
Thanks for the clarification XD. I kinda see your point, except the guy who shot him wasn't an enemy, but a brother in arms. All the world's most successful snipers are fairly well known. The vast majority are Russian. Shooting nazis was popular in Russia at one time. Even the girls did it.
I return you now to Owens and his fruity fantasizing of me in panties.