| Author | Message | ||
     Birdy |
This is both amazing and scary as crap at the same time. http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e95_1359267780 | ||
| Xdigitalx |
Imho... it is 95% amazing and only 5% scary. You can look back at footage from 3 days prior .... that would be amazing info for crime stoppers. The only real scary thing is when we are completely reliant on it and a solar emp hits. | ||
| Xdigitalx |
Imagine if it were available to the public..... if you live in a city... you pay per view to watch your kids walk home from school.... or see exactly who abducted them and where they went...... freakiin amazing!! | ||
| Blackm2 |
Now if it can just be programmed to identify a threat, a la "Person of Interest". | ||
| Xdigitalx |
Maybe drunk drivers...  | ||
| Glitch |
When you swap freedom for security you end up with neither | ||
| Xdigitalx |
How would that be giving up your freedom? You would still be free to do as you please... only difference is... someone "may" be watching you... but don't think of yourself as special... because you would just be a minuscule piece of info that would only be zoomed in on and watched if absolutely neccessary. Having everyone watched is an impossible feat. Not unlike someone trying to watch all 300+ cable channels at once. Make it free for the public to view then it may not seem so intrusive on your privacy. After all.. it would end up being just an extention of YouTube, Facebook and Twitter where people plaster info about themselves for all to see. If this thing is real, there is no way it will not eventually be used everywhere. Even smaller versions for private use, like at a ball park or mall security, condo associations... etc etc. It is very remarkable. | ||
| Crusty |
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| Slaughter |
Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not watching. | ||
| Xdigitalx |
http://www.amazon.com/Deja-Vu-Denzel-Washington/dp /B00005JPD0/ref=sr_1_13?s=movies-tv&ie=UTF8&qid=13 59385779&sr=1-13&keywords=Denzel+Washington | ||
| Sifo |
Keep in mind, what is being described is not going to be the final product of this sort of technology. It's only the beginning. The amount of detail, and the time it can be saved will expand exponentially in the future. This isn't just a believe, but historical fact of technology. It most likely won't stand alone, but will be combined with other information like the GPS in your cell phone, car, facial recognition on security cameras, etc. Do you find red light cameras and automatic speeding cameras offensive? You haven't seen ANYTHING yet. | ||
| Fahren |
True that. As with the enormous data storage centers where all data passing on the web is stored forever (by the US gov't), it's just information about you that can be pulled out of your past, just to find something about you that makes you seem dangerous, undesirable, whatever. It's all innocuous, until it's not. | ||
| Xdigitalx |
Why on earth would you be offended by that? About 2 months ago...I went thru a red light someplace in PA., and saw the camera flash as I passed thru, I am still waiting for the ticket to come in the mail. Maybe I should call and find out what happened before they come and throw a boot on it next time I am over there. | ||
| Fahren |
Why on earth would you be offended by that? What part of "It's none of their f**king business" don't you understand? Do we really now have to justify why privacy is important to us?!? | ||
| Xdigitalx |
Um... it IS everyones business if your running red lights. If no one runs them at certain intersections... then they could remove the camera and move it to a more hazardous location. Not unlike a BAIT CAR. | ||
| Cityxslicker |
the reason you need high resolution video from a great distance.... targeting. We have been able to read license plates at obscene altitudes for decades; problem was that the platforms were not as accessible as a fleet of drones. Yes Komrade - everyone is now free under the watchful overseeing eye. Rejoice ! | ||
| Xdigitalx |
haha right... better target acquisition and laser beam disintegrators ... poof and your a cloud of dust. No more dumb wars.. only smart ones. | ||
| Airbozo |
This is real technology and there is software in beta state (along with a specific chip) that will compare just about any face, car, truck or even gait with a database to identify specific individuals or vehicles and track them anywhere they go. Yes, they can even track you by the way you walk... I know about this due to one of my customers. The chip they are experimenting with is also used to monitor fishing vessels for the types of fish caught and is used in many camera systems in banks and other high security installations to record all of this data and search for baddies. I am not happy with it myself, but so far the supreme court has ruled you have no expectation of privacy once you leave your house. Even in your back yard. I am glad I live where I do since there is almost no way for this technology to even see my house (or neighborhood for that matter). One real scary thing? _Supposedly_ it can also track infrared and create infrared signatures of people so they can be tracked inside buildings as well. Thankfully the SC HAS ruled that is an invasion of your privacy. They just need a warrant though... Oh, and forget about the tin foil hat. That just amplifies the signal. lol! | ||
| Birdy |
The point is NOT the technology, it's WHO controls it and what they DO with that control. And Redlight cameras become another source of funds to cities. To the point that some have been caught changing the timing of the red-yellow-green to make it a sure fire loss for the driver. If you are doing the speed limit and the light turns yellow you CANNOT clear the intersection before it turns red. | ||
| Bigblock |
Well, if they put all of us out of work and/or in jail, who's going to fund them? | ||
| Cityxslicker |
the Chinese ? hell we should probably just give them the technology now, save them the time of having to buy, steal, spy, copy, and mass produce it | ||
| Luftkoph |
Wait until they combine this with infrared, and look into your home.Is that going to be the line in the sand?or will the line just be moved further until we all have our very own personal monitor strapped on or implanted. | ||
| Gschuette |
Xdigital. Where do you personally draw the line? Are you familiar with the concept of the slippery slope? If a camera from 17,500 is fine, how do you feel about a camera monitoring above every persons house from 100 feet? How do you feel about a camera monitoring your front porch? How do you feel about a camera being required in you living room? Bedroom? Shower? Where does it end? You may think this is all neat and nice, the people developing it and using it have a different agenda. Re-read 1984 and consider how a telescreen would fit into your family home. | ||
| Slaughter |
I can't believe the same people that discuss ideas on the 'net are worried about surveillance (Web is far more searchable/watchable than high resolution images) If you're worried, you should NEVER discuss ANYTHING on the net | ||
| Xdigitalx |
My line can be erased and redrawn,... just like most of society. The fact is,.. this technology sure could be used for bad purposes,.,. just like guns in the wrong hands or the knives in your kitchen or someone in a vehicle ramming into a crowd of people. The possibility of killing or bad things happening will allways be there. The idea is to not STOP trying to protect innocent folk, and things like this could help ALOT. I think and believe that these technological advances will just better enhance the existing methods for criminals and protecting the general public. The laws that are there now will be modified to include the new technology and it's capability. You already are being watched... when you enter any department store you are being recorded. When you come around that bend and see the police man with his radar gun and he is pointing it at you..., is that a violation of your right too? I think you guys may be zooming into 2084 or 2284... The world as we know it will most likely be a completely different place then. | ||
| Rex |
If we are seeing it, it is probably old news. Google will have it in a couple of years. There goes the private eye. You can now watch and see who your spouse goes out with, and where they are.... | ||
| Airbozo |
"If we are seeing it, it is probably old news. Google will have it in a couple of years." This. A company called Digital Globe out of Longmont Colorado supplies most of the images for Google maps (and others). They are limited to the detail they can provide public entities, but the US government has servers in their data center (in a motion/pressure detecting cage) that capture the higher resolution images for the governments use (they also share some of them with our "allies"). While not live, they are fairly up to date depending on who is buying them. http://www.digitalglobe.com/ When I joined the Navy in the early 80's some of the photo's I saw were of a Russian military base and you could read one of the guy's name tags. If they let you know about it, there is something even cooler already in use (same with the drones).} | ||
| Cityxslicker |
You always knew when the program was over the development and onto the next thing - when it became unclassified. The U-2, SR-71, RC-135, B-2, F-117; were only outed because they had moved from development to operational....and compromised beyond rendition. what is 'unseen' should give you chills up the back of the spine; I know it does me. |
