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J2blue
Posted on Monday, January 14, 2013 - 09:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Colin Powell has now lost all my respect and willingness to give him the benefit of any doubt. The following AP snippet betrays within 2 paragraphs the bait and switch propaganda tactics employed on a massive scale by the "trans Democratic" party. I put that label in quotes to denote what I know for a fact is a giant sea change of power within the Democratic party, and not the country's demographic to which he would lead the readers eye astray. Without further adieu here is the piece, and I may eleborate in a follow-up comment later, but I need to purge myself of this trash now:

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WASHINGTON (AP) - Former Secretary of State Colin Powell says his own Republican Party is having "an identity problem."

The former Joints Chief of Staff chairman who twice endorsed Democrat Barack Obama for president tells NBC's "Meet the Press" that in recent years there's been "a significant shift to the right," and that's produced two losing presidential campaigns.

He says the GOP needs to "take a very hard look at itself and understand that the country has changed" demographically, and that if the party doesn't change, "they're going to be in trouble." He also bemoans what he calls "a dark vein of intolerance" in some elements of the party.

He describes himself as a moderate but still a Republican.
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Kenm123t
Posted on Monday, January 14, 2013 - 10:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Atlas is going to Shrug and the Brother Demonrats are going to starve!

Read Bears book It doesnt take a hero
It details who Powell really is

AKA Stormin Norman he prefered Bear
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Xl1200r
Posted on Tuesday, January 15, 2013 - 10:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm no Democrat, but Powell is right about the Repubs, and it's been true for a long time now. If you don't see it, then you're the reason why they're losing elections.

Just sayin'.
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J2blue
Posted on Tuesday, January 15, 2013 - 01:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ba-ha-ha. I see very clearly, thank you. Powell's statement contradicted itself. First he claims Republicans are the one's who have shifted to the "right", then he claims they haven't shifted but must shift to the left to be relevant to new American demographics. It can't be both! Oh, and the electoral demographics actually showed a weakening in support for "left" direction this past November. So, the Republican's aren't losing because of my eye sight!

Ergo, Powell is wrong, as is the cause he truly supports, as are those who buy into such faulty logic and misdirection. There may be many steps Republican's have failed to enact to repel a political onslaught that involves the vast majority of members of the "free press". I can fault Republican's for not being more aggressive. In the mean time, there are many American's who are falling victim to the tactic of repeating a lie until it seems it must be true, which is exactly what Powell is attempting to do.
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Airbozo
Posted on Tuesday, January 15, 2013 - 05:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The downfall of the republican party started with the infiltration of the Religious Right and has been made worse by the teapublicans.

I know it is contrite but:
I didn't leave the republican party, they left me.
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Blackm2
Posted on Tuesday, January 15, 2013 - 05:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

+1 Airbozo
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F22raptor
Posted on Tuesday, January 15, 2013 - 06:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

To me the Republican-Party is represented by the rich, trust-fund millionaires who live out here in lake country. They pretended to be voting based on a Christian facade, but there main interests are financial. We need not take sides, as I am skipping along on my own. I believe in retrospect , alot of of Republicans wished that the nominees would have been a little more center-leaning. They lost the moment Ryan got on the ticket. They can only run on the memory of Reagan for so long. Limbaugh, Weber and Wagner ( Conservative talk-show hosts) do not represent America. I think of Belling as a car alarm, does zero for a living and makes a living off of talking about those who are on welfare. Just like a car-alarm, when it finally stops, the world is a quieter place., with nothing lost!
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J2blue
Posted on Tuesday, January 15, 2013 - 08:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Don't miss the point about Powell, here, calling a turd stinky when you're a turd too doesn't give you credibility, nor your pet cause. There is plenty to blast Republican's for but Powell's claim in the quote above isn't one. The Republican's didn't move to the right one iota, relative to their past positions, but they must certainly appear to be further and further to the right when you are sailing due left with your aim far beyond the horizon. That is what Powell experienced, but he made the classic mistake of failing to realize it was him that was moving while blaming the post he once called home for leaving him.

Making claims you wish to be true, and hoping that making them loudly will actually make it true just doesn't work. It must surely seem like a glorious time to be a left fringe fanatic in America. But that doesn't make the fringe mainstream. If you want to delude yourself in the same manner many talk show hosts try to convince their listeners of what an awful caricature that "other" party player is, well, that is all you have. Both Republican's and Democrat's have been guilty of it, and continue doing so today. A measurable reality is that most American's are not looking for the grand socialist change the current administration is racing to put in place, and it is in fact the heterogeneous collection of "progressives" that want to believe they have achieved something more than they really have in American politics. It will be seen as a short lived aberration. In time the individual groups that make up the odd coalition will break apart and head back to the former isolation they enjoyed when even the Democratic party wouldn't touch them with a 10 foot pole.

Is that where one is at? To think that this president will somehow make all those old, sophomoric, Utopian political ideas come true? Well, Mr. Powell has shown his stripes and dumped decades of appearance(for political expediency) to come out of his closet.

Relative to what Mr. Powell is saying, the Republican party has not moved an inch, he just wishes they would move closer to him so his duplicitous nature won't be so apparent. And he is making his claim not only for his benefit, but for the benefit of a minority vision(not Minority) that infiltrated the Democratic party in the post Clinton era. In 2002 it was that party which had "lost" it's identity and struggled to come up with anything that resonated with significant segment of the population. They found it first in the anti-war crowd, then in the many "marginalized" groups that most Americans never paid much attention to. When you put that hodge-podge together you will get a very conservative reaction from the true majority of Americans. But perception is everything and perception can be molded and that is where Powell and Associates stink the most.

And, yes, Powell left the Republican party, in part because he never truly held a common belief with them, he just used them to advance his career. I've not heard the claim he made by any true conservative or Republican, almost always it has been the closet "progressive" types that make that claim. But don't get me wrong, there is still plenty of stink left in the Republican party, but I'll have to take my chances with them rather than cast my lot with the pseudo-democratic posers rifling through D.C. and the big media outlets right now.
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99savage
Posted on Tuesday, January 15, 2013 - 09:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Whisky - Tang- - . . .
The only way the the country has changed" demographically makes any sense in this context is to assume that those individuals representing the change want free stuff.

How do "demographics" affect math?
Some of us may not have minded providing the free stuff but we have reached the limit
no mas, no mas,so to speak, and still our little friends on the Left insist on increasing the magnitude of the welfare state without respect to math.
Being perfectly aware we have reached our limit our little Leftist friends choke off our liberties just to make us aware that they consider us their serfs.

Each and every damn thing they attempt crashes around them but instead of trying to revert to what worked they put a splint here, a weld there and invent still more things that will not work -
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