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Just_ziptab
Posted on Friday, January 04, 2013 - 09:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Who "OK's" that kind of spending?.........750 million more rounds of ammo ordered.
Yeah,I know,it's a "scare video" ....but begs the question...in who's hands does this ammo end up with? Will they use it as intended or go home with it and protect their own family?
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Johnnylunchbox
Posted on Saturday, January 05, 2013 - 09:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Seriously, they know the price is going to skyrocket, and they use a metric shit-ton annually. So they're saving us money by buying in bulk right?
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Johnnylunchbox
Posted on Saturday, January 05, 2013 - 09:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Just watched it. The guy narrating is a flaming idiot, and should do his research before opening his mouth.
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Old_guy
Posted on Saturday, January 05, 2013 - 10:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

When I was in Federal Law enforcement in the 80s and 90s I used about 1500 to 2000 rds a year qualifying and during training. The SWAT guys used about 5 times that. And they always gave you extra, I have boxes and boxes of LEO 9mm and .38 +p+ JHP.

In 2008 there were about 120 thousand Federal LEO authorized to carry.

So even back then they were using about 250 million rds a year.
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Saturday, January 05, 2013 - 12:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

No budget - there is nothing to 'ok' ; just go get it, maybe hand us the receipt when you get back, or don't.

welcome to the new washington - gotta love that transparency
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Mr_grumpy
Posted on Saturday, January 05, 2013 - 01:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Wasn't there a thread about this some months ago? or was that a different gov dept?
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Psykick_machanik
Posted on Saturday, January 05, 2013 - 01:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Up here in Alaska DHS gives you ammo if you complete a hunter training course.
Its done in partnership with some other agencies.
Not sure how that fits but its a better explanation than "civil war"
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Mr_grumpy
Posted on Saturday, January 05, 2013 - 01:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Up here in Alaska DHS gives you ammo if you complete a hunter training course

Hunting what? Illegals coming over from Canadia?
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Sifo
Posted on Saturday, January 05, 2013 - 02:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Slightly off topic, but does anyone know if the bans on "high capacity" mags apply to LEOs?
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Old_guy
Posted on Saturday, January 05, 2013 - 03:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Slightly off topic, but does anyone know if the bans on "high capacity" mags apply to LEOs?

It didn't on the last ban.
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Sifo
Posted on Saturday, January 05, 2013 - 04:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Seems odd that I should have to protect myself with less rounds than a trained officer is expected to protect me with. Am I expected to be a better marksman? I assume we aren't talking about the SWAT teams.
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Old_guy
Posted on Saturday, January 05, 2013 - 05:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yes the street officers all carried full capacity mags for their weapons.

I personally prefer a single stack mag for myself so I carried an HK P7M8. It was much better suited for the old clothes work I was involved in and if fit my hand more comfortably.

(Message edited by old_guy on January 05, 2013)
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Psykick_machanik
Posted on Sunday, January 06, 2013 - 01:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Those darn Canadians sneaking over and stealing our hockey jobs!
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Xodot
Posted on Sunday, January 06, 2013 - 10:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

video narrator is an idiot - training ammo has to be the same as duty ammo for officers to qualify each year. That is the train as you fight principle.

We spend a million $ a year on training ammo for only 7,000 members

the FBI have an annual Billion dollar ammo budget

pointless video - worse than pointless - misleading and inflamatory
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