| Author | Message | ||
     Cityxslicker |
do be do be do http://www.theblaze.com/stories/fury-after-paper-p ublishes-names-addresses-of-legal-pistol-owners-in -new-york/ and the beat goes on. - idiots. | ||
| Swampy |
Aesquire said: "You don't. You never will. Have not been able to since the 1920's. In America. This is a major lie you have bought into. It is an ongoing propaganda technique begun by the company Handgun Control and now named the Brady center to exploit a crippled guy or something like that. That crippled guy at one time had a collection of class 3 firearms, his evil ugly wife is exploiting his injuries by wheeling him around making him shake his head in approval when she clangs the gong for personal disarmament. That crippled guy has no choice in the matter, he either agrees with her BS or he will be changing his own diapers. Evil, Evil woman to use that man to promote her socialist cause! | ||
| Just_ziptab |
Local farm store today: 3 boxes of .222 2 boxes of 3.08 3 boxes of 30.30 7 boxes of .22 rim fire bird shot That's it in a normally well stocked store..........so even the midwest folks that are far away from first person evilness are paranoid/hoarding. | ||
| Gregtonn |
I haven't wasted my time reading this entire thread but I'm going to offer one thought to consider. When it comes to gun laws it would be safer to allow fully automatic weapons. Seriously, by a huge margin, I have never seen more ammo expended and fewer targets hit in any other mode of fire. G | ||
| Aesquire |
I won't comment on Sarah Brady. I have no such knowledge, what you say may be true, or vicious rumor. ( that said, the nasty part of me agrees ) The Brady center for exploiting a crippled guy's previous incarnation, ( same folk ) wrote a book on how to disarm you. Wish I still had it but like many books I've loaned out, it never came back.* First, gradualism. One small step at a time, never retreat. ( One reason the anti's are furious with Clinton's Useless So CAlled Assault Thing Ban expiring ) Like boiling a frog. ( if you don't know the fable, look it up. Then read 1984, Animal Farm, and the Federalist Papers. You have to have SOME sort of context for politics. History? Doomed to Repeat, One of. ) Pick an object. give it a scary name. ban it. Pick next object. Simple. Easy. Smart. They spell out the initial steps. We'll see what order they use them in as time goes by.. First, the one currently in play. Any military or black gun is an "Assault Weapon" Any gun with a scope is a "Sniper Rifle". ( this one seems to have been delayed due to the popularity of US Snipers in the Sandbox and Rockpile ) Any Shotgun Plus a saw is a "Sawed off Shotgun" Any .22 is an "Assassination Weapon" ( due to it's supposed use as such by the Mob ) There was more... Mostly it's the "by any means necessary" mindset where HOW to destroy another's reputation to discredit the Truth is openly explained, etc. Lie, lie more, make the Lie the Pravda. ( official truth ) The monopoly of force is the essence of it all. only those controlled by the Anti's are allowed to have weapons. The undesirability, throughout history, of that monopoly is the reason for the meaning, context, and plain spoken text of the Constitution. *( particular favorites I just buy as I find them in used book stores. "Emergence" by David Palmer is such a book I've given away, usually to women, to give them an introduction to Science Fiction. They Never give it back, and often have passed it on. http://www.amazon.com/Emergence-David-R-Palmer/dp/ 0553255193 ) | ||
| Aesquire |
Gregtonn, While I agree with you in principal And See the humor, I must go all safety nazi on you. Ahem. You are responsible for every round sent downrange. End rant. The converse of that is the idiot tossing AK rounds randomly in your general direction is apt to kill kids & other innocent bystanders. The most impressive person I've seen lately is the fellow who drew a bead on a Mall Shooter, held his fire because of moving bystanders, and the Shooter then shot himself. Nice guy, the CCW legal civilian. Smart, too, gave a very accurate description of what happened, and the Mall video's confirm it. | ||
| Aesquire |
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| Gregtonn |
Ahem. You are responsible for every round sent downrange. As a qualified Expert I was well aware of that, both on and off the range. And, while some humor was intended, I just may be here today due to the non-humorous fact in that statement. G | ||
| Old_guy |
My facebook is full of people touting everything from "stricter" gun control to an outright ban. Some have used as an example, Britain that since Britain banned most guns there has not been a School shooting. They neglect to mention that the homicide rate INCREASED after the ban went into effect. A similar increase occurred in Australia,post ban, an increase in violent crimes with guns by 20%. I haven't owned a firearm since I left the Police Department but I am considering purchasing one now. (Message edited by old_guy on December 24, 2012) | ||
| Cityxslicker |
if you ban me from buying them..... I will get super creative in creating mayhem from other sources to protect myself from idiots, and bureaucrats. I have an ill supervised youth and long experience of knowing what goes kaboom - and how far from it I have to be so none of it comes back on me. you are much safer with me with a gun , than the alternatives I can cook up. PS ANY gun that this Administration will GIVE to a Mexican Drug Cartel - I should be able to purchase. end of rant. | ||
| Ducbsa |
ANY gun that this Administration will GIVE to a Mexican Drug Cartel - I should be able to purchase. Now, that is a good one! | ||
| Rick_a |
The Sheeple are all too eager to buy into the media and government created hysteria. Use of a school shooting to push an agenda on America is deplorable. Kids and teachers were killed because they were defenseless in one of the most restrictive states for gun ownership in the country. The wacko's evil rifle was left in the trunk. People forget that the last "Assault Weapons" ban did nothing but raise prices of good magazines and made a lot of rifles look cheesy for a while. The 5.56/.223 and 7.62x39 calibers being touted as evil life destroyers is also silly...a varmint round and an underpowered thirty caliber... The worst aspect of this situation is that similar incidents were exploited in other countries to successfully get citizens to voluntarily register and then give up said firearms. Despite the fact that it's proven that an unarmed society is less safe than an armed citizenry, they were also too eager to "do the right thing." Even if gun crime decreases violent crime increases as a whole. Public disarmament is tyrannical government at it's best. History should be a lesson of that. A couple coworkers (gun shop) felt we needed more gun control and asked my opinion of laws that could be implemented. My answer was that if all laws were followed and enforced we'd live in a utopian society. How is disarmament the answer when being disarmed is precisely what has gotten masses of people killed? Amazing that a message of gun control can get effectively spread in light of such situations. | ||
| Bob_thompson |
A few threads back from Psykick_machanik: "What people don't realize is that guns and ammo wont be GONE, and our guns wont be confiscated by the Jack booted thugs. We will still be able to go out and buy what ever our hearts desire." Just an internet post from U-tube but something to consider, "what if", practiced by many intelligence organizations: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2olhfn_0d4&feature =youtu.be I will always practice "better to have it and not need it then need it and not have it". | ||
| Macbuell |
I'm a gun owner, including a "black rifle" and I would support some new gun laws. I would support full back ground checks including some kind of check to determine if the purchaser has a history of mental illness. Just as a felon shouldn't be able to purchase a firearm, the mentally ill shouldn't be able to either. I'm not sure how this would be implemented but surely there would be a record of people admitted to mental institutions. Also I would support a waiting period of some kind. I see no harm in that form of regulation. I do not support banning "modern sporting rifles" nor do I support the limitation of the capacity of magazines. | ||
| Macbuell |
I'm also on the fence about mandatory firearm safety instruction / certification. | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
Macbuell, The problem with the Mental Illness qualification is that the new health Czars get to determine mental capacity. Once you get the "diagnosis", you ain't gettin' it off. | ||
| Macbuell |
Well, for me to support any such legislation it would have to come with language that states the individual could be approved for a firearm purchase if evaluated by a mental health physician and given a clean bill of health. I would not support a "permanent" list and certainly not one controlled by the government. | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
At issue is the fact that 100% of all mental health physicians will be government employees under single payer. You won't be able to find an "honest broker" to clear your diagnosis. | ||
| Thumper74 |
On a recent trip to a new doctor, I was asked if I do drugs, smoke, drink and have guns in the house. I understand the drugs, smoking and drinking in relation to health, but guns? | ||
| Bob_thompson |
Welcome to Obama's second term. Be prepared for many things we have never seen before. | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
I refuse to answer those questions. It's none of their business. | ||
| Cityxslicker |
yep - guns. are now considered an illness, a disease or an symptom to 'danger' in the house and possible domestic abuse. they are ginning up reasoning for a DSHS case worker to inspect your home for safety.... and if you refuse - it will be Tac SWAT team that is 'helping' them - you know; for your safety and the community..... The PPACA is NOT about health care - it is about control, taxation, access, and propaganda - there is no NEW health care solutions in the bill - at all. There are TWO armed 'health' cadre forces authorized by this bill - wtf; it ain't about grandma's diabetes. Lenin would be envious of the Bill of Goods that got sold under this legislation | ||
| Ducbsa |
Welcome, Comrades! Here is what you must support: http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2012/12/demo crats-seek-the-holy-grail-of-gun-control.php | ||
| Geedee |
"The problem with the Mental Illness qualification is that the new health Czars get to determine mental capacity." Time for you to find out who you really are and how the system has been hijacked. http://globe-union-court.org/info_roman_court_proc edures/info_roman_court_psych_eval.htm | ||
| Cityxslicker |
Dear Veterans, have you EVER had a nightmare about your deployment upon returning home ? Do you suffer from a sense of loss? Do you feel like you do not fit back in home as normal from before ? Congratulations - you have PTSD ! (and you are not allowed to have a gun) | ||
| Just_ziptab |
pistolwerks ..........84 first person reports in 4 hours today..... nearly all ammo and nearly all guns are mostly gone from coast to coast. Some stores picked clean....others with just odd ball stuff left in the displays.AR's/AK's and "that" ammo is in the unobtainable class. JUST WOW!! A co-worker that has an FFL ordered 22,000 rounds of .22 LH.........hoping to score big on a gouge factor...........can you say dick! On my other hand,I order Remington .22 LH HP for a friend today.........4.8 cents a round. Expected deliver at the end on January!Online pickings are getting very slim too. I've been watching before the elections and it was PLENTIFUL at that time with almost all items in stock.Since that time I have ordered nearly 3,000 rounds of ammo for self and friends at decent/fair prices. Today was probably the end of orders unless some one wants to pay gouge prices..it's going up that fast! | ||
| Geedee |
Exactly Cityxslicker. So time to find out who you really are. veteran vet·er·an noun 1. a person who has had long service or experience in an occupation, office, or the like: a veteran of the police force; a veteran of many sports competitions. 2. a person who has served in a military force, especially one who has fought in a war: a Vietnam veteran. A Person is a 16th Century CE created word (but falsely claimed from the 6th Century CE) defining a fictional Form of Property enclosing certain characteristics and appearances as the Identity of one or more Level 6 Higher Order Life Forms to which further Rights of Use are then annexed. The word Person comes from the Latin word persona in Latin meaning “mask, character or part of a play” and originates as a key element of the fraudulent treatise known as Corpus Iuris Civilis at the end of the 16th Century whereby all “persons” by their nature were falsely claimed to be subject to the jurisdiction of the Roman Cult, also known as the Vatican. The invention of Person from the 16th Century enabled the "enclosure" of the bodies of living flesh beings and the “alienation” of traditional and natural rights associated to them with “person” being viewed as a type of “property” which could be purchased, sold, seized or surrendered. Sounds like gobbildygook. Don't be a person, unless you need to be. ignorantia legis neminem excusat "ignorance of the law excuses no one" | ||
| Cityxslicker |
Did my time; I spent a career fighting this filth. I never thought I would see it on domestic shores. When I say I know how this ends, it is more than f#cking academic. and I am more than certain, my name is on a list somewhere. corpses packed on top of one another because you live on the wrong block, or it was a tuesday and the quota was in, the color of your skin, or the church you worship at - seen it before: I don't like the stink of what is coming out of DC | ||
| Geedee |
"...my name is on a list somewhere." Change your name, don't tell 'them'  . “paranoid delusional disorder” and “oppositional defiant disorder.”  Well, that's official then. I'm not well. "Further, the expansion of psychiatry under federal auspices increases the potential for its Soviet-style abuse to silence political dissidents, as the recent case of former US Marine Brandon Raub illustrates.[18] Taking an insistent stance that weather modification exists or discussing World Trade Center Building 7’s inexplicable September 11 collapse may be grounds for a diagnosis of “paranoid delusional disorder.” Activist overtures calling attention to the precarious rationales of the “war on terror,” the Federal Reserve, or an overreaching police state could be easily classified as having unresolved “oppositional defiant disorder.” http://www.globalresearch.ca/from-persuasion-to-co ercion-psychopharmas-priesthood-of-the-mind/530734 3 Would they send a drone over here for me? | ||
| Aesquire |
“oppositional defiant disorder.” George Carlin was right. I think the old anglo-saxon term for that is "rebel". Or "Adult". I'm certain that believing you are thought to have “oppositional defiant disorder.” means that you must have “paranoid delusional disorder.” Catch 1705-76j-89b. |
