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Aesquire
Posted on Saturday, October 27, 2012 - 06:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I remember the Warlock. Black, mean, bold.

The Dodge 'Lil Red Express Truck's identical cousin. ( like Samantha and Serena )

I also recall when the 'Lil Red Express Truck was the fastest car made in America.

It was the bad days of the late 1970's and pollution control was primitive, cost mileage, and filled the engine bay with mystery hoses. Vacuum leaks, glowing exhaust manifolds, Air Pumps... ( claimed to burn up pollution, what air pumps really did was to pump air into the exhaust so that pollution, measured in parts per million, had more millions to hide in )

Car & Driver did a great article "Double the Double Nickel". Selecting a variety of cars they hoped would break 110mph, and crown a pollution era speed king.

Most of the article was centered around the Corvette and Firebird "teams". Chevrolet sent a sales exec with the 'Vette, while Pontiac sent some engineers... who kept tweaking the Firebird ( tire pressure, engine adjustments, ) to make it faster than the 'Vette...

In the end, the winner was the 'Lil Red Express Truck, which not only went fastest ( of the American cars ) with it's un-adulterated 360, but generated a shock wave on the track that knocked over the radar gun as it slammed by at 118+.

http://www.reocities.com/redexpressclub/lrehistory .html

http://www.moparmusclemagazine.com/featuredvehicle s/trucks/mopp_0111_1978_dodge_lil_red_express_truc k/viewall.html

one trick used on the Warlock & 'Lil Red Express truck was a high enough GVW to put it out of the rules for passenger cars. ( 6100 IIRC ) I had a '77 Dodge Maxi Van with the 6100GVW and it was so devoid of pollution equipment, that when I needed a new Choke Thermostat the local parts store sold me the wrong one.... The one they sold me had a wire. ( for a heater to speed choke activation ) When I brought it back, the young salesman couldn't comprehend that I simply didn't have the place to plug it into. The "old guy" looked at my old one, laughed, went and promptly brought out the correct part, insisted I wait while he looked up the part number....then Told me it was a 1952 part.
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6gears
Posted on Saturday, October 27, 2012 - 11:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ducxl..... Your ranger has less power than the Corvette, sorry.
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Etennuly
Posted on Sunday, October 28, 2012 - 06:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ducxl..... Your ranger has less power than the Corvette, sorry.

You might want to reconsider that. A lot of new V6 engines surpass the 245 hp of the '89 Vette's 350.

A 2005 Toyota Tacoma V6 has 245 hp.
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Ridenusa4l
Posted on Sunday, October 28, 2012 - 06:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

ALSO...you have to factor in that in MAY have had 245hp in 1989, but facture in 23 years of wear, tear, and abuse and you more than likely have around 200hp on some occassions...and if its an automatic..well then ya those wheels wont be getting a whole lotta power to begin with.

Jake
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6gears
Posted on Sunday, October 28, 2012 - 09:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sorry... The ranger is just over 200 horse, weighs a hell of a lot more and is no where near as aerodynamic as a Vette. I am also pretty sure that even if you beat it for a short distance (fat chance) the Vette will still top 150 on the right day and location. I used to have an 89 Z-51 Vette roadster that was far from the fastest car I have owned, but you could cruise 80 MPH all day long with the air on and knock down around 20 MPG. It was probably one of the most fun cars to drive I have owned. Nice weight balance and very predictable when cornering. Stone stock it ran 14.1-14.2 at 98-99 MPH at Indy raceway park. After a few minor bolt ons and some tuning the car ran 13.8 at 102 MPH, ALL DAY LONG. It was the simplest car to race I have ever owned. Leave it in drive, stand on the brake and bring it to 1500, watch the tree, off the brake and mash the gas, LOL. The Rangers with a 4.0 SOHC run in the 16s at 80ish MPH. I am not knocking the little ranger, but I think the Vette would mop its a$$
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Sunday, October 28, 2012 - 10:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The V-6 out of the Buick Grand National was nearly the death knell for the Corvette.
Nothing stings more than having your @55 handed to you by a midsize sedan that cost half as less. .... doubly so later when it was an over stuffed s-10/s-15 Typhoon / Cyclone evil twins.
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6gears
Posted on Sunday, October 28, 2012 - 11:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Definately....but.... The GN could not hold a candle to the Vette in the corners. The Typhoon is on my short list of must have vehicles. I have a friend whos dad is a doctor. He bought a cyclone brand new. I got to ride in it more than once and that thing was brutal quick. I seem to remember 0-60 was close to a small city block with a boosted launch. That thing was a BLAST.
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Monday, October 29, 2012 - 01:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I remember this being aired 'live' - I got to ride in a 84 GN, and thought that was pretty impressive compared to the boxy things coming outta Detroit of the day
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Lemonchili_x1
Posted on Monday, October 29, 2012 - 06:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'll bet I have a bigger collection of pickups... hehehe... ; )

Vintage Vibe P90-7's


Seriously though I'm very jealous of some of your vehicles. I'd really like an F150 Lightning or something that size, but no short-wheelbase US trucks have been officially imported here for a very long time.
Some of you may remember Misty, our '74 F100. She's had a bit of a makeover, I'll post some pics later : )

Vette, GN, Li'l Red Express... I'll have one of each thanks : )
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Monday, October 29, 2012 - 12:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

shhhhh don't mention the Holden / Pontiac El Camino thingy y'all have down there.
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Loose1
Posted on Monday, October 29, 2012 - 07:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

'96 Chevy c1500
'99 international 4700 (it's for sale too, and the trailer)
Can you guess what's my favorite color?
Matt

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Rich
Posted on Wednesday, November 07, 2012 - 07:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

New addition. Same age as I.

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Cowboy
Posted on Wednesday, November 07, 2012 - 07:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Att MR GRUMPY I know this may not be the right to ask but as you have a lot of experence with europen motors I need to know, I have been reading the speck on the 2014 toyota 1 ton duley It will come with a 8.1 inline 6 Hino diesel motor can you tell me what you know of this engine ---good and bad habits tks in advance. COWBOY
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Brother_in_buells
Posted on Thursday, November 08, 2012 - 05:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Rich,
Nice GMC truck!
1-1/2 shortbed from 52?
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Rich
Posted on Thursday, November 08, 2012 - 06:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It's a 50.
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Mr_grumpy
Posted on Thursday, November 08, 2012 - 11:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Cowboy.

Hino is a Japanese motor, they make heavy trucks too.

We don't get the Full size pickups here as they run over the 3.5t weight limit to drive on a European car licence.
They'd have to be plated as a Heavy Goods Vehicle & fitted with a Tachograph etc etc so no market for em.
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Cowboy
Posted on Thursday, November 08, 2012 - 11:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Tks Grumpy I am just wandering how it stacks up vs the cummins I am sure warming up to the toyota I find many things about them I like as I have no intention of buying a union made product.
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Mr_grumpy
Posted on Thursday, November 08, 2012 - 01:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I Drove a Hino tractor 20 something years ago, & it was a decent motor.

The only thing that would hold me back, would be parts availability.

Hino always used to be thought of as a cheap "run it til it falls to bits" truck, mostly used as 8x4 tippers in the UK, pretty rare in cont Europe but fairly common in southern hemisphere.
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Froggy
Posted on Thursday, November 08, 2012 - 01:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


quote:

Tks Grumpy I am just wandering how it stacks up vs the cummins I am sure warming up to the toyota I find many things about them I like as I have no intention of buying a union made product.




I don't know about this one, but some of Toyota's trucks are union made.
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Slaughter
Posted on Thursday, November 08, 2012 - 08:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

1984 was a vintage year.

Bought about 15 years and 130,000 miles ago for $1800 then.

Been rear-ended once, stolen and recovered. Takes a licking and keeps on ticking. Insurance is dang near zero.

Daily driver 70 miles round trip.


Toyota 1


Toyota 2
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Slaughter
Posted on Thursday, November 08, 2012 - 08:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

1984 was a vintage year.

Bought about 15 years and 130,000 miles ago for $1800 then.

Been my race truck since I first raced in 04. NEVER been taken care of. Kicked around like a bad bad joke at the bar...

Been rear-ended once, stolen and recovered. Takes a licking and keeps on ticking. Insurance is dang near zero.

Daily driver 70 miles round trip.

Couple scratches but other than that, she's cherry


Toyota 1


Custom Bumper


Toyota 2


Custom Interior


Toyota 3


(Message edited by slaughter on November 08, 2012)
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Luftkoph
Posted on Thursday, November 08, 2012 - 09:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

U.P. special
s10
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Malott442
Posted on Friday, November 09, 2012 - 08:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)



97 Cummins 5 speed 4x4 duallie. Fuel plate is cut way back, southbend dual disc.

In the next 12 weeks will include 4k Governor, studs, delivery valves, injectors, 18 degrees timing, and a nice single turbo upgrade
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Ratbuell
Posted on Friday, November 09, 2012 - 08:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Dad was always a Cutlass-guy. My first car was "his" 86 Cutlass 307/buckets/console.

I talked him into getting us a test drive in a GNX in '87. WOW. I made the poor sales guy turn green in the back seat. Dad was..."eh". I was panting and drooling and chanting "buyitbuyitBUY IT!!!!!".

He didn't.

But I never forgot that boost-rush, and the first new car I ever bought was my '91 Dodge Daytona CS/AGS Competition Package turbo. I still own it.

I do dig me a nice Warlock, and a friend of a friend is a big name in Li'l Red restorations. But for me personally...my '01 Cummins 6 speed 4x4 does just fine. Slow, predictable, reliable, pulls a house and still gets 16mpg in the mountains pulling a loaded trailer. Trucks are meant for workin', as far as I'm concerned. If I wanna go fast, I have my turbocars and my motorcycles : ) (when I break one of those, it's nice to have a workhorse of a truck!)
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Etennuly
Posted on Monday, November 12, 2012 - 09:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

This was what I think was one of the best looking Ford trucks they ever built(well that blue '76 or so, with the camper a few posts up, looks good too)





But that damned 6.0 diesel has canceled any thoughts of me owning another one.

Lots of folks really liked my 4" chrome stacks. After I put them on it I felt as though I was riding a Buell when I would pull into a parking lot with similar sized trucks. Strangers would come over to talk to me about the stacks, that would lead into where I got the bed, what engine and so on.....familliar ground.
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Biffdotorg
Posted on Tuesday, November 13, 2012 - 02:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Our other summertime toy (that is now put away for the winter)
2012 GMC Sierra and SeaDoo X20
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Etennuly
Posted on Sunday, November 25, 2012 - 01:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The time is near for me to get my newest project truck under way. I'm taking it in my shop to knock the ugly off of it this week as customer work seems to have left me a bit of a time gap to do so.

I will post a picture or two after something good happens.




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Littlebuggles
Posted on Thursday, November 29, 2012 - 08:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My "new" truck, paid for. '91 F150, less than 71K miles on the clock. Nice interior, needed some oil leaks fixed and a new throttle position sensor. She's still waiting for me to put some new shocks in and probably pull that light/roll bar, it's just decorative anyway, lights aren't wired and I want a bed cover for longer trips with luggage.



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Lemonchili_x1
Posted on Thursday, November 29, 2012 - 10:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Nice F150!

Vern - that latest project looks like it could turn into something pretty heavy duty... plans?
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Danger_dave
Posted on Friday, November 30, 2012 - 01:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)









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