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     Tom_b |
http://www.ericgarland.co/2012/11/09/letter-to-a-f uture-republican-strategist-regarding-white-people / | ||
| Sifo |
Somehow listening to some liberal racist white guy about why the GOP should become more like the Democrat party convinces me that there would be no point. Things like complaining about the failures of the GOP to be responsible with our budget, then vote for the Dems is like complaining that the garden hose is getting you wet, then turning on the fire hose. There's no point in having two parties with the same values. Either the people will return to values that will allow us to be a great country again, or they wont. That his the choice of the people. It has been the choice of the people for democracies as they have failed throughout history. "We have given you a democratic-republic. If you can keep it." | ||
| Macbuell |
There is no possible way that guy has even a remote interest in being a republican or voting republican. No way at all. In fact, implying he speaks for all "white people" is insulting. That's like saying Herman Cain speaks for all black people. He's a pretty far left democrat with some conservative financial beliefs that obviously are secondary to his very liberal thoughts on every other subject. He basically said for the Republicans, change your stance on almost every issue and I might vote for you and then implied this is how white people feel. I guess he missed that fact that Romney won the white vote by a pretty big margin. If you want to give your message some validity, don't start it out with a bold faced lie implying that you would consider voting republican when you obviously would not. | ||
| Xdigitalx |
typical duchebag musician/blogger/artist/sofa-politician... wtf do u expect.... he should just stick to teaching bass guitar or what not. eh.makes me  | ||
| Sifo |
All this talk of what the GOP has to do to get people voting for them is getting way ahead of things. Another four years of BO destroying the economy will either have people fleeing those policies, or hopelessly entrenched in a failed mentality. OK there will be plenty of both, it's just a matter of which more people choose. You can force me into failure, but I will not willingly choose it. Four years from now is likely to be a VERY different environment. | ||
| Teeps |
Sifo Posted on Monday, November 12, 2012 Another four years of BO destroying the economy will either have people fleeing those policies, or hopelessly entrenched in a failed mentality. Hopelessly entrenched; we're already there. Nothing more to do but find yourself a fat g'ment teat and suck for all you're worth... california will see the effects sooner, as the state g'ment majority is now fully "left", therefore can raise taxes without opposition. The 2014 elections here could be the bellweather for 2016. | ||
| Glitch |
So, because 50% of 120,000,000 people voted for Obama I should change my belief in the Constitution, and the Bill of Rights? There are about 300,000,000 people that are of age to vote, sad fact that most of them didn't feel it was important enough to get off their ass and vote | ||
| 99savage |
We are past the tipping point More than 50% of the electorate is one or more of the following: - A net taker - A special pleader - A government employee - A crony capitalist (Few of them but they pack a big punch) Seems unlikely that any individual will ever persuade them to strive for anything better. Obama has the rhetorical gifts and the sycophantic media to do it but has elected not to. As for myself I will monkey wrench them at every opportunity. You say Christians should cease participating in civil society, very well, as of last Monday I have ceased giving blood & contributing to civil charities. | ||
| Thumper74 |
Savage, what good does that do? Who get's your blood now? | ||
| 99savage |
Savage, what good does that do? Who get's your blood now? * They told me to stop engaging in civil society & I respect their wishes. - Christian charity made me a 5 gallon donor/drive organizer, not worshipful admiration of a politician. * I keep it. - Would contribute to a family member or a friend or a parishioner, maybe a brother biker. | ||
| Aesquire |
While the author of that article is a faggotcommiedemocrat ( did I miss anything?) he has an excellent point in that the Republican Party Leadership and Establishment are dicks. Moderate, state oriented, government power loving phallic organs. Look at who lost house and senate races. A few neaderthal cretins, and the bulk "moderate" love big gov guys put up by the R Establishment as "safe" candidates. Prime examples of "why vote when they're the same" fodder. And the few cretins in the uber social conservative vein gave the D's all the fodder they needed to paint the whole party as morons. Worked, too. You think the Speaker of the house gives a darn about social conservatism? No way, he's into it for the power, just like the felon running the Senate for the other side. ( you don't get that rich in office without being a crook ) We must destroy the R's establishment. We must push fiscal conservation and the Constitution. Let the Social Conservatives start their own party, or the vice versa... The goobers who run things in the R's are going to slide left as they perceive that's the middle. They are wrong, but they also don't care. Republican Establishment "it's his turn" candidates LOSE. They keep picking looooosers. The guys that run the loosing campaigns keep getting listened to. How dumb are these people? ( oh, yeah, Global Warming... never mind. Pretty damn dumb. ) | ||
| M1combat |
When are all you dumbasses going to realize that arguing for one or the other political party is equal to arguing for the government and against yourselves? Argue for the people. **** the government. Both sides of it. Neither side is for the people, people  . | ||
| Aesquire |
I'm just arguing that at least one party should be for the people. There is a tiny chance to fix, improve or destroy the R's. I see no such chance for the D's. Am I missing a trend? | ||
| M1combat |
Might be, could have been, should be, wasn't, was, will be or never was... Whatever. It all needs to be scrapped. There is no use in arguing for a should be that won't be. Just accept it. There's no way the corruption and conceit that we have voted into power for the last 80 years or so can be cleansed because now it's ingrained into our people. We are never more than one or two generations from losing our liberty. Sorry but that was a couple generations ago. To be honest... I think that corporations are easily as dangerous to liberty and free people in general as our government. Probably just as dangerous as the red governments. On one side you have people saying that the corporations are the problem and on the other you have people saying that the government is the problem but the REAL problem is money or more correctly the love of money and generally the power that comes with it. We need to remove THAT system. It IS possible to do that AND provide for everyone everything they need. It takes a leap of understanding and a massive paradigm shift of humanity but is damn well possible. I don't have any faith that it will happen at any point because we're so far down the "other" road at this point. I any case... I'm just saying that anyone that advocates for government is missing the big picture and has had the wool pulled over their eyes by a system that is designed to divide and conquer. If you are divided you are conquered. Stand together for people and educate yourselves as to what possibilities actually exist. Think of it this way... When our beautiful little republic was being formed the idea of religious freedom and indeed most of the ideas in our founding documents and held by our founding fathers were quite radical when compared to the wishes of the ruling class. The particular ideology chosen that then created our nation is both not the only one that allows for a free people AND not the last one left to be tried. Dare I say... It wasn't even the best one. Just the best one at the time. The first thing one must do in order to take the first steps down the road towards a system that is for the people is to really examine what is against the people. Do that. | ||
| Tom_b |
LOL @ all of you negative name calling clowns.. except aesquire and m1combat. i think the writer touches on a nerve with a lot of people or Obama would not have won re election. | ||
| Johnnymceldoo |
Its time for conservatives to hibernate and tone down the rhetoric. If anyone is critical of the government let it be the main stream. The war of information won out. Revamp and gut the wedge issues of abortion and gay marriage and let states determine their policies like it should be. | ||
| Glitch |
all of you negative name calling clowns  | ||
| Cowboy |
I will never beleave the election was won legal After having a long talk with my X-wife(we have remained friends after divorce) she had to vote several times (with pole watchers present) before the machine wouldmark correct canadate, | ||
| Aesquire |
I filled out a form, and it was fed into machine. Who did I vote for? Well, I know who I intended to, I have no idea who I did. But. A conspiracy that big will come out. Might take a while. But it's too good a secret to keep forever. As to the "conservatives" giving up. The Fiscal Cons must keep pushing. The Social Cons were ( are? ) represented in politics by some who are just terrible people to push a conservative social agenda. The packaging must be smarter, and the idiots who gave crappy quotes on rape need to be sent into the darkness where they belong. As a libertarian on social issues, I've coined the 3 levels of Government messing with your private life. None of your business. None of your damn business. No wonder you want to take our guns. | ||
| Aesquire |
http://www.nationalreview.com/author/56454/latest http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/333314/taki ng-back-joint-betsy-woodruff | ||
| Aesquire |
http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/11/the_future_ of_the_republican_party_is_in_federalist_libertari anism.html http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/11/spreading_c onservative_values.html http://city-journal.org/2012/eon1107ak.html Good advice. Agree, disagree, these people are not in despair, they are pissed. Others are even more angry. http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/11/was_the_201 2_election_stolen.html Sometimes, reality seems to line up with a work of fiction. What's going on in the real world seems exactly like what happened in that book...... No, not Atlas Shrugged. We have what appears to be massive voter fraud in the suppression of votes from active military at home, and abroad. ( military people almost always have to vote absentee, since duty has no give for things taken for granted by civilians. It's cold, rainy, and you've got duty walking a beat along a fence in the middle of nowhere? That's the job. It's election day and you're on duty the entire time the polls are open, in a town 75 miles away? That's the job. ) There are no jobs for the troops about to be cut because of "the fiscal cliff" and the deliberate massive Defense cuts set up by this admin. The troops still in service have this admin reneging on contract obligations to people who make less than minimum wage, risk their lives for our freedom, ( traditionally, more troops die in training than in our current wars.... usually in a vehicle accident.. they also serve. ) and have had their lives disrupted by multiple duty cycles in the most hostile of territory on Earth, outside Detroit. And the Rules of Engagement forced upon them by politicians with an unrealistic understanding of the threat they face, is the Primary cause of Combat death in the last 40 years. ( my opinion, but ask anyone. ) So...... I see the Future of "Starship Troopers" as a distinct possibility. ( no, not the crappy movie, the Book. ) In "Starship Troopers" the troops come home from a war, are crapped on, again, and have a revolution. They make a few small changes. To have the franchise, to run for office, you have to be a vet. You can't be turned down and the military is pure volunteer. Everyone has the option to join, survive Service, to EARN the franchise. Everyone has to take a civics course in high school. No grades, but no excuses. You have to take the course to graduate. All Civics teachers are vets. Almost all are amputees. It's a different world. It could happen. They are rioting In Europe, and mass strikes are being called for as governments slam into the wall of being so far past broke, Broke looks pretty darn good. We are way past Broke. The Vets are being crapped on. | ||
| Sifo |
 EDIT: While this may not be 100% accurate, the sentiment is pretty spot on. There was plenty going on in OH that is just beyond belief. (Message edited by SIFO on November 14, 2012) |
