| Author | Message | ||
     Iamike |
I haven't seen this one before. Make sure you go through all the pics. http://xtremesportsphotography.photoreflect.com/st ore/Orderpage.aspx?pi=0QAK01AY080000&po=0&pc=28 | ||
| Tbowdre |
oh man thats gonna hurt | ||
| 86129squids |
Ow. Part of what I've gotten to hate about running the Gap is all the photographers... peeps like this moron come through like they're Miss America, waving, and then- A CORVETTE!!!!! AAAAIIGHHHH!!! thump. I got used to just giving the paparrazi my "love". But, morons like this are all too likely to infest my lane. Plus, aint got no Buell to dodge them anymore. Hope to fix that someday. | ||
| Griffmeister |
Wow, that almost looks like that was planned.  | ||
| Hughlysses |
That photo sequence explains this photo from Killboy:  Looks like he snapped the forks clean off. | ||
| Hammer71 |
On my first trip there I had no clue there were photographers there until we hit the top and stopped. Too busy concentrating on my lines which in turn made for some great photos. | ||
| Reepicheep |
Dang. That is terrible. The pictures before impact make it look like he was just cruising, not a big deal, but when you see the impact you get the sense he must have actually been cooking pretty good through the corner. Forget ripping off the forks, he ripped out all the castings from inside the front wheel. Ow. And it looks like the airbag deployed. Ow. Kudos to the Vette driver, he kept his &^%^ together start to finish and managed the situation as best he could. There was no escaping that accident for him. Even more sobering, by looking at the distance, that is almost precisely what I did when the Corolla tried to kill me. The Uly faired much better. Makes it kind of hard to look at. I feel bad for the rider, mistakes happen, and we generally get away with them. But sometimes we don't. Even if you are being careful to be careful, those corners can catch you out when there are other distractions present. Hope he is OK. | ||
| Brinnutz |
I thought this was posted just a few days ago on here? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2R4D1vBOM8 | ||
| U4euh |
Serious target fixation, I believe he could have fared better if he had just looked through the corner! | ||
| Akbuell |
Yeah, target fixation is my call, after forgetting there was a corner ahead. From the looks of the photos, if he had looked through the corner and stayed with it, the Corvette driver (Big Props to him!) gave him enough room he probably could have made it, wrong side of the centerline or not. | ||
| Thumper74 |
#21 makes it look like he's about to stick the landing... I bet he faired pretty well. I was expecting a low side because it looked like the right side touched down | ||
| Notpurples2 |
Hard to tell from stills but it looks like he may have been dragging hard parts before verging into the wrong lane, though I can't see any sparks. He may have touched then stood it up. Hope he is ok but also that he has enough insurance to pay for the repairs to that vette. | ||
| Brumbear |
That is a classic example of out riding your machine. Thats partly why I have a Buell today and yesterday. I was tired of outriding my machine you don't quickly drag parts and lose focus on the correct machine imo. | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
Cruisers and the Dragon don't mix. | ||
| 86129squids |
He clearly overshot at speed, due to prolly 2-3 seconds wasted by mugging for the camera. | ||
| Mr_grumpy |
It's the old "Look Mum, no hands." gag on a bigger scale. I'd say they're both VERY lucky, the rider in the fact that it was a Vette not a big slab-sided RV, & the vette driver that he wasn't taking that lot through his door. | ||
| Akbuell |
No need for me to speculate further. I read the comments posted in the Youtube link, and it turned out that this incident left fluids on the road that apparently put a supermotard rider on the ground, hard. It seems he did not fare well at all. Good thoughts and best wishes to that rider ..... | ||
| Kenm123t |
I stopped riding with a MSTA group here in So fla. I ride to meet them not with them since last summer. They run high speeds and too close in a residential areas with blind curves and driveways. Basically over riding the safe braking distance for the conditions. Met up with them for breakfast this morning and one of the too fast for conditons guys shows up in a walker and walking cast. Asked what happend Well I hit gravel in a corner and went down , he was in Ohio and never expected gravel on the roads. Rode a Concours loaded down every ride. Watched this guy drag on almost every corner. The draft horse bunch trys to corner like a Buell and are commited to one line and cant correct mid turn. | ||
| Sifo |
There's also this comment on the video...
That's quite a hit to total the Vette. Watching the video clued me into something weird. I kind of assumed the bike stood up under hard braking. Watching the brake light it doesn't come on until he is way over the centerline. It even goes out in picture #16, then back on again. It just doesn't seem like there's much braking going on. There's certainly no steering being done though. | ||
| Ducxl |
My wife has 3 law degrees and she's asking how long before the photographer is sued for distracting drivers/riders.After all,he DID contribute to this unfortunate accident. | ||
| Oldog |
Cruisers and the Dragon don't mix Err no in attention and motorcycles don't mix. ( follow Ferris on the dragon if you get the chance he rides a bagger smooth as glass )} | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
Ferris is unique in that respect. I saw a lady on Top Speed set a track record in a cargo van on the Nurburgring. Doesn't mean cargo vans are the craft of choice. Sometimes there is way too little arrow for any Indian to do much with. | ||
| Sifo |
It wasn't the bike that caused this wreck. It was the inattentive rider. I was paying attention to the camera, not where he was going. From there he panicked and rode it straight into the front of oncoming traffic. This is a case where the Indian failed, not the arrow. | ||
| Slaughter |
It isn't target fixation (running INTO the cameraman would be) - it's just bad judgement. | ||
| Kenm123t |
Ferris has rollers on his foot boards!along with hinges lol | ||
| Fb1 |
This is a case where the Indian failed, not the arrow. Sifo: Concur. I also noticed what you noticed - very little or no braking taking place, and the one frame late in the sequence where the guy's brake light wasn't even lit up. It would explain the massive hit on the Corvette - he drove it right into the car. I don't see sparks, but I'm betting he touched a hard part right after he got done mugging for the camera, and from that point on he pretty much did NOTHING. Not even a skid mark from the rear tire, which you would at least expect to see from a novice rider trying to get some whoa-down going. Re: the potential lawsuit due to distraction dealio, I've wondered about that myself on the Dragon (and more and more places here in the Appalachians of late), but photogs have been working the Dragon for years, so there must be some sort of legal loophole?? Oldog, thanks for the bone. The RK (and any other cruiser) does just fine on the Dragon, keeping in mind the obvious limitations compared to something sportier. Fatty: Unique? Hardly. Odd? Absolutely... | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
The inattention created the situation. The lack of lean angle created the panic situation when he hit hard parts. Would he have panicked if he hadn't hit hard parts? | ||
| Reepicheep |
And I hope the supermotard guy is OK also. But I've been on the dragon and seen those super-moto and some of the sportbike guys ripping though turns... and I had two thoughts every time I watch them. 1) Those guys and gals are *great* riders. 2) Why on earth would anyone who can ride that good be dumb enough to commit through blind corners on the gap like that when there could be fluids on the road, or a 240zx sideways that they won't be able to see until it is too late to do anything about it? So again, my sympathies and I hope they are OK. But they rolled the dice on a blind corner and took their chances, and I don't think they should be surprised that eventually it didn't turn out OK. | ||
| Brumbear |
I don't know the backround changes quite a bit between 8 and 9 I kind of think the bike got outridden but either way it could have and should have been avoided. | ||
| Iamike |
It sure looks to me at 9 that he locks on to the Vette and gives up turning at that point. It also looks like right before that if he kept his turn he would have avoided the crash. I've never been in quite that type of situation but I have had pucker moments in turns where I just tell myself "Relax and complete this turn". I think that comes from all this discussion on these type of accidents. |
