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Fb1
Posted on Friday, October 26, 2012 - 09:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I suppose one could do what the Milwaukee Sentinal Journal is doing this time around.

In '08 they endorsed 0bama.

In '12 they're not endorsing EITHER candidate.

In other words, they're voting "present"...
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Fb1
Posted on Friday, October 26, 2012 - 09:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Endorsements for Romney in Detroit, NY and Washington
CNN News, Oct 25, 2012

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/10/25/en dorsements-for-romney-in-detroit-ny-and-washington /
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Aeholton
Posted on Friday, October 26, 2012 - 09:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Caution bad language at end.



(Message edited by aeholton on October 26, 2012)
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Pwnzor
Posted on Friday, October 26, 2012 - 09:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Watching the young lady with the big tattoo liken the voting experience to losing her virginity made me think:

Why would a lesbian care about birth control? And how exactly does a lesbian lose her virginity? Does it involve the second knuckle, or is the third knuckle required?

Inquiring minds want to know.
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Fb1
Posted on Friday, October 26, 2012 - 10:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

More on the Benghazi cover-up, a scathing video report from Lou Dobbs:

quote:

Why Didn’t White House Deploy Military to Protect Consulate in Libya?
Fox News, Oct 25, 2012

“Spring Fever” author Andrew McCarthy and Former U.S. Ambassador to the U.N. John Bolton on the Administration’s handling of the attack on the U.S. Consulate in Libya.



Watch here: http://www.foxbusiness.com/on-air/lou-dobbs-tonigh t/index.html#/v/1925116815001/why-didnt-white-hous e-deploy-military-to-protect-consulate-in-libya/?p laylist_id=164630
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Xdigitalx
Posted on Friday, October 26, 2012 - 10:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Obamacin.. rotfl! The end was great!
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Wolfridgerider
Posted on Friday, October 26, 2012 - 10:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

has this been posted yet? I'm not much of a church going to kinda person.... but this hits home with me...

a prayer for the president, Psalm 109, verse 8
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Pwnzor
Posted on Friday, October 26, 2012 - 10:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've had Psalm 109 on my bulletin board at work for almost a year now.
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Reindog
Posted on Friday, October 26, 2012 - 10:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Chris (Fahren):
It is great to see you showing up for the party and thanks for posting. Did the read the Post's endorsement as it is well written and factual? I have exactly one Republican friend who lives on the Upper West Side who is lonely and needs to read reasoned truth.

Keep posting as you have consistently been a reasoned counter balance.
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Fb1
Posted on Friday, October 26, 2012 - 11:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Reindog - a new, highly-detailed time-line published this morning on Benghazi-gate:

Facts Increasingly Show White House Misled on Benghazi
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2012/10/25/Time -to-Own-Benghazi
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Fb1
Posted on Friday, October 26, 2012 - 11:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


quote:

Benghazi-gate: Should Congress Start Drafting Articles of Impeachment?
Published on Oct 25, 2012 by Pajamasmedia

Terrorists overran the US consulate in Benghazi, Libya and killed the US Ambassador. We now know that the US government knew that Benghazi was at risk of a terrorist attack, however President Obama blamed a video, even though that excuse is no longer credible. Should the President be impeached for this?





http://youtu.be/un6wet538Wo
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Reindog
Posted on Friday, October 26, 2012 - 11:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

There is no doubt in my mind that Obama will be impeached over his actions if he continues to be President. Benghazi-gate is NOT going away even though the MSM is trying to bury it.

I don't have a link as it just came over Fox News that one of the ex-Seal Team members was on the roof and was able to train lasers on the attackers. Our laser guided weapon systems would have targeted and destroyed the attackers if our planes had deployed from Sicily. No defense of US soil and citizens was offered by this President. What do you think President Reagan's response would have been in real time?

Obama had no problem with "NATO" airstrikes when he illegally went after Khadafy.
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Fb1
Posted on Friday, October 26, 2012 - 12:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Reindog, WHY is the WH trying so desperately to cover-up Benghazi?


Meanwhile:

FOX NEWS: CIA operators were denied request for help during Benghazi attack, sources say
http://www.therightscoop.com/fox-news-cia-operator s-were-denied-request-for-help-during-benghazi-att ack-sources-say/

REPORT: Clinton asked for more security in Benghazi, Obama said no
http://www.therightscoop.com/report-clinton-asked- for-more-security-in-benghazi-obama-said-no/
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Wolfridgerider
Posted on Friday, October 26, 2012 - 01:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have a VERY HARD time reading the detailed reports of what was going on....

I can only read a sentence or two and the rage sends my brain into the red zone and I end up talking to myself for few minutes. Read some more and repeat.
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Reindog
Posted on Friday, October 26, 2012 - 01:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It would be enlightening to read the psychological profile that must exist somewhere in the CIA, NSA, or FBI. I would probably say that Obama is a narcissist who believes in his infallibility. It would go on in detail that he has an aversion to criticism which stems from his childhood.

That would go far in explaining why Obama is convinced that the order for brave others to kill Osama bin Linden was all that is necessary to explain his foreign policy. The War on Terror doesn't exist and was simply a political foil for the Bush administration. The Arab Spring was an outgrowth of his magnificent personality.

In short, Benghazi didn't happen and he was so powerful in his own mind that it would go away even though the truth was that he was actively covering it up by lying to the American people.

You never see Nixon and Obama in the same room at the same time. The two would have fundamentally understood each other. Both will meet similar fates.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Friday, October 26, 2012 - 01:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

This literally makes me sick to my stomach to read...

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/10/26/cia-ope rators-were-denied-request-for-help-during-benghaz i-attack-sources-say/

WTF! And anyone who says you don't send armed forces in until you understand what is going on should be slapped, then fired, then slapped again. You don't if you don't have to, but you have an ambassador in the process of being murdered for God's sake.

This is horrible.
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Friday, October 26, 2012 - 01:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The sad part is that neither of these guys were assigned to the protection detail for the Ambassador. They saw what was happening, and placed themselves, VOLUNTARILY, in harms way to try to defend Chris Stevens.

They didn't have to be there, but they recognized that they NEEDED to be there.

Then THEIR Government turned their back on them and left them to die.

At least when the Delta Team guys fast roped down to protect our helicopter pilot, they knew help wasn't coming.

Terrible tragedy. Presidential crime.
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Xdigitalx
Posted on Friday, October 26, 2012 - 01:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That is just so messed up.
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Fb1
Posted on Friday, October 26, 2012 - 03:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


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MUST WATCH: Rush military caller says beyond shadow of doubt Obama knew about Benghazi attack and ordered no response
The Right Scoop on October 26th, 2012

This is an amazing phone call from a retired Lt. Col. and Special Operations Planner for 15 years who knows the inside baseball of what goes on in the White House. He told Rush that protocol dictates that as soon as the situation room got the email about the Benghazi attack, someone marched up to the president and informed him of the attack. He says it’s a bald faced lie if they say otherwise.

He also says that it was the president who gave the order at his 5pm meeting that day to not respond to the Libya attack in progress.

He explains it all below and I’m calling this is a MUST WATCH:




EDIT--> Source: http://www.therightscoop.com/must-watch-rush-military-caller-says-beyond-a-shadow-of-a-doubt-obama-knew-about-benghazi-attack-ordered-no-response/


http://youtu.be/lljKmmZyCiw

(Message edited by fb1 on October 26, 2012)
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Fb1
Posted on Friday, October 26, 2012 - 04:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have a VERY HARD time reading the detailed reports of what was going on....

Wolfie, this is gonna rip your heart out:

quote:

POWERFUL: Father of former SEAL killed in Benghazi says whoever refused to send help murdered his son, but he forgives them
Posted by The Right Scoop on October 26th, 2012

This is a powerful interview with Charlie Woods, father of former Navy SEAL who was killed in Benghazi, who says that those who refused to send ready and available help to his son murdered his son. But he’s not saying that out of malice and hatred. In fact he tells them directly on this phone call that he forgives them, but they need to stand up and change the direction of their lives.

I’ve transcribed a portion of the interview:


quote:

If in fact, those people in the White House were as courageous and had the moral strength that my son Ty had, immediately, within minutes of when they found there was a first attack they would have given permission and not denied permission for those C-130s to have gone up there. I don’t know much about weapons but it’s coming out right now that they actually had laser targets focused on the mortars that were being sent to kill my son and they refused to pull the trigger, they refused to send those C-130s.

I’m an attorney. This may not meet the legal test of murder but to me that is not only cowardice, but those people who made the decision and who knew about the decision and lied about it are murders of my son. That’s a very strong statement for me to make but for their benefit they need to clear their conscience, they need to stand up and change the direction of their lives. And I want to say right now you know who you are, I totally forgive you, but I hope years from now you change the direction of you lives.



Listen to the full interview below:

http://www.therightscoop.com/powerful-father-of-fo rmer-navy-seal-killed-in-benghazi-says-whoever-ref used-to-send-help-murdered-his-son-but-he-forgives -you/



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Fb1
Posted on Friday, October 26, 2012 - 04:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


quote:

No, the CIA is not going to take the fall for Obama on Libya-gate (Part 2)
Posted by William A. Jacobson Friday, October 26, 2012 at 12:28pm

In my post on October 19 (which seems soooo long ago), No, the CIA is not going to take the fall for Obama on Libya-gate, I predicted:


quote:

In a ritual as old as the existence of the modern intelligence community, leaks are beginning to spill out protecting the CIA from having to take the fall for Obama’s Libya cover-up….

18 days until the election. I hope the bureaucrats have recharged their cell phones.

Maybe there will be an October surprise after all.



Jennifer Griffin of Fox News reports, today, EXCLUSIVE: CIA operators were denied request for help during Benghazi attack, sources say:

quote:

Fox News has learned from sources who were on the ground in Benghazi that an urgent request from the CIA annex for military back-up during the attack on the U.S. Consulate and subsequent attack several hours later was denied by U.S. officials — who also told the CIA operators twice to “stand down” rather than help the ambassador’s team when shots were heard at approximately 9:40 p.m. in Benghazi on Sept. 11.

Former Navy SEAL Tyrone Woods was part of a small team who was at the CIA annex about a mile from the U.S. Consulate where Ambassador Chris Stevens and his team came under attack. When he and others heard the shots fired, they informed their higher-ups at the annex to tell them what they were hearing and requested permission to go to the consulate and help out. They were told to “stand down,” according to sources familiar with the exchange. Soon after, they were again told to “stand down.”



Who are these mysterious sources?

Well, the ones with the fully charged cell phones.

Source: http://legalinsurrection.com/2012/10/no-the-cia-is -not-going-to-take-the-fall-for-obama-on-libya-gat e-part-2/
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Reepicheep
Posted on Friday, October 26, 2012 - 06:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Listening to the Rush caller (who sounded credible, but who knows) made it clear that there were two factors in play.

The problem was created when there was a drubbing of any officer remotely involved in the botched hostage rescue from the Iranian hostage crises. It instilled a culture of fear and risk aversion for this sort of action.

The failure was a failure of leadership in this specific circumstance, where a real leader should have stepped up and showed real bravery and done the right thing knowing that it was a big risk that he might be throwing away a career, but has to do it because its the only right thing to do. He or she should have made the call to go in.

The Seals on the ground made the call, and weren't just betting their carreers, they bet their lives (and lost. And I bet they would do it again if they had the chance).

Obama should have been that man to do it as well. But Clinton could have done it as well. As well as a stack of leaders below them.

Unless they were calling for it and Obama countermanded them.

Thats a critical question at this point. Though ultimately, it was Obama's responsibility. Say what you want about Bush, but he would have gotten this one right. And maybe everything else about a president doesn't matter if they are going to get this kind of thing wrong.

God bless and protect our brave patriots everywhere.
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Aesquire
Posted on Friday, October 26, 2012 - 07:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've been told there were 2 plans on the table for the Iran Hostage rescue.

The CIA plan used helicopters was minimal impact, and because the different services and teams had never worked together, and the training budget had been cut ( deja-fraking -vu ) we got the debacle that history shows us.

The good thing that came out was the creation of special forces commands that unified the different services for that sort of thing in the future.

The OTHER plan, the Pentagon/spec ops guy's plan, was to drop a string of "daisy cutters" around the embassy. ( very large bombs designed to clear dense jungle instantly into helicopter landing zones ) Then Rangers were going to jump in with steerable chutes, and evacuate the hostages, then themselves, with the Fulton System. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fulton_surface-to-air _recovery_system ( I've always wanted to try this one... )

The concept was loud, intense, and the calculation was that the Rangers could easily hold the area since tanks and bulldozers would take days to penetrate the rubble belt the daisy cutters would leave. It was figured that the rescue would take all day, due to the problems of getting civilians in position, and harnessed up, but the plan included total air superiority, and the occasional loud noise as targets presented themselves.


It not only would have worked, it would have made a statement about what happens to people who violate US territory. A lesson the exact OPPOSITE of the one this President gives the world.

I can understand the "need for cultural sensitivity" and the symbolic nature of having an unguarded consulate. I don't agree in the strongest possible terms, but I understand the idea.

I don't quite get the mental illness that thinks it is good policy. This exact idiocy has killed people through recorded history. How many examples do you want?
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Sifo
Posted on Friday, October 26, 2012 - 07:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

In business I've known this to be called decision paralysis. It's a situation where by being unsure about what decision to make, you make no decision and the window to act passes you by. It's pretty much a guaranteed bad decision.

The same can happen in a military crisis. Failing to make a decision is in effect making a bad decision. The fact that no action was even initiated demonstrates the decision paralysis in play. Had they made a decision such as scrambling an AC-130 to head over there to disperse the attackers, they could have called the mission off at any time up to actual engagement if new facts dictated that this was a better decision. Failure to act at all shuts your window for action though. This is exactly what Hillary was getting at when she talked of the 3:00 AM phone call.

It will come out who wanted to act and who made the decision to not act. Heads should roll over this one. The cover up from the WH only makes things worse, and BO is directly involved in that. This is giving aid to the enemy. Is that not the very definition of treason?
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Fb1
Posted on Friday, October 26, 2012 - 07:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Fellas, we're missing an important part of the story here.

We listened to our guys get killed while they pleaded for help.

We lied about it the next day (and the day after that, and the day after that, and the day after that...).

Massive, concerted, high-performance cover-up, the likes of which this country has never seen, including ongoing cover and collusion from most of the media...

...WHY???????????????

I don't buy the idea that it was just the preezy trying to protect his claim during the DNC, etc. that we've got alkida (yeah, I know) on the ropes.

The scale of this cover-up - which involves at a minimum the Pres, VP, SecState and US UN Amb (who am I missing?) - is HUGE.

Which begs the question.....why?

What is the pres trying so desperately to hide???
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Reindog
Posted on Friday, October 26, 2012 - 07:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

This is a pattern by the Obama administration. Don't forget F&F. It is all coming home. It will NOT be forgotten

I am lucky that I get to vote for Darryl Issa who represents my district. He will keep the burners on after the election if it becomes necessary.

The thought of Obama going back to sleep on 9/11/2012 and then heading out to Las Vegas for a fund raiser the next day makes me literally nauseous.
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Sifo
Posted on Friday, October 26, 2012 - 07:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Fellas, we're missing an important part of the story here.

I'm not missing it. I'm calling it treason. I don't take that lightly.
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Wolfridgerider
Posted on Friday, October 26, 2012 - 07:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What is the pres trying so desperately to hide???

it really makes your mouth drop when those kind of light bulbs start going off in your head

what if this is a huge shell game to keep our eyes off the real shit storm bearing down on us
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Fb1
Posted on Friday, October 26, 2012 - 07:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm not forgetting F&F. It's kinda moot for most folks now, however, after the pres invoked exec priv; he more or less (in most American's minds) made it go away.

No such comfort with Benghazi, though, not with the election so close.

What was the motive for the attack on Benghazi? Think about it. Take your time; think about it. What was inside that building that was so valuable?

It wasn't just to kick some American ass, IMO.

What was the goal of the attackers? What exactly were they after? Is the answer to this question actually what we're trying to hide?

There's a part B to the above. I'll touch on it after we talk more about part A.
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Aeholton
Posted on Friday, October 26, 2012 - 07:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What was the motive for the attack on Benghazi? Think about it. Take your time; think about it. What was inside that building that was so valuable?

Weapons destined for Syrian opposition?
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