Obama's Lies Unravel in Congressional Hearing on Libya 9/11 Attack Joel B. Pollak, Oct 10, 2012
Today's congressional hearing on the Sep. 11, 2012 attacks across the Middle East, that killed the U.S. ambassador to Libya and three other Americans in Benghazi, have destroyed the Obama administration's lies about the event. There was not enough security in Benghazi, despite repeated requests; there was no preparation for the attacks, despite intelligence and warning signs; and the assault in Libya had nothing to do with an anti-Islamic video, as President Barack Obama and his appointees had claimed for weeks.
Intel chief on criticisms about Benghazi: "Enough already" Suzanne Kelley, Oct 9, 2012
The top U.S. intelligence official said on Tuesday there was no obvious warning ahead of the deadly attack on the American consulate in Benghazi, Libya, and rebuffed criticism of the intelligence community's initial assessment of the incident.
James Clapper, director of National Intelligence, said in raw and revealing remarks to a group of intelligence professionals and contractors in Orlando that there is a "message" the intelligence community has learned since the September 11 attack that is "applicable to the executive and legislative branches of government" as well as to members of the media.
Imagine a country where challenging the ruling authorities—questioning, say, a piece of data released by central headquarters—would result in mobs of administration sympathizers claiming you should feel "embarrassed" and labeling you a fool, or worse.
Soviet Russia perhaps? Communist China? Nope, that would be the United States right now, when a person (like me, for instance) suggests that a certain government datum (like the September unemployment rate of 7.8%) doesn't make sense.
...the context surrounding the 7.8% figure...bears serious skepticism. Consider the following:
In August, the labor-force participation rate in the U.S. dropped to 63.5%, the lowest since September 1981. By definition, fewer people in the workforce leads to better unemployment numbers. That's why the unemployment rate dropped to 8.1% in August from 8.3% in July.
Meanwhile, we're told in the BLS report that in the months of August and September, federal, state and local governments added 602,000 workers to their payrolls, the largest two-month increase in more than 20 years. And the BLS tells us that, overall, 873,000 workers were added in September, the largest one-month increase since 1983, during the booming Reagan recovery.
These three statistics—the labor-force participation rate, the growth in government workers, and overall job growth, all multidecade records achieved over the past two months—have to raise some eyebrows. There were no economists, liberal or conservative, predicting that unemployment in September would drop below 8%.
...The coming election is too important to be decided on a number. Especially when that number seems so wrong.
-- Jack Welch
Intel chief on criticisms about Benghazi the glaringly bogus September employment numbers: "Enough already"
I just cast my ballot for Mitt Romney. Unfortunately, I live in Atlantis where Milhouse is going to win. It is still important to vote because the popular vote has some political clout even if it doesn't directly elect the President.
Didn't hear it all, but it seems that every Biden rebuttal is saying Ryan lied.
Did so quite sincerely. Since the current mantra is that R&R are evil, that will sell with a lot of people. ( wrong, ignorant people, perhaps ) But the audio was clear on the sighs, muttered protestations, etc. And Joe does that good.
Not going to comment on the actual issues, but the over all impression is Ryan was an attack dog and poor Biden was picked on.
Nice strategy. ( evil, perhaps, but well played )
I thought the moderator was hostile to Biden on the Libya part.
Is it possible that getting BS'ed by this admin has actually annoyed the uberloyal press?
I don't normally copy and paste entire news articles. I'm doing so here, and will ask forgiveness later if need be.
Biden Loses It
Ben Shapiro, Oct 11, 2012
This evening, vice presidential candidate Rep. Paul Ryan (R-WI) took on Vice President Joe Biden in a wide-ranging debate covering everything from Libya and Iran to the economy. Biden’s demeanor was the story of the evening: smirking, laughing, snorting, shaking his head. The strategy seems to have been to laugh off America’s problems, since the Obama administration has done nothing to solve them.
The debate itself was secondary to the demeanor of Biden. Biden had nothing to run on, so he decided to distract. And those pearly whites were a bizarre distraction from what could have been a substantive debate.
Biden interrupted Ryan repeatedly. He would not allow Ryan to finish an answer; where he stopped interrupting for even a few moments, his moderator ally, Martha Raddatz, jumped in to help him cut Ryan short.
This was the big problem for Biden going in: the American people didn’t like him. His favorables were far lower than Ryan’s. This debate did him no favors. And if the vice presidential debate was any indicator of the new, aggressive strategy of the Obama/Biden ticket, it will be off-putting to Americans in a dramatic way. It appears blustery and unlikeable – and most of all, dramatically angry and unserious.
Biden did it because Obama was somnambulant during the first debate. So Biden came out swinging. And more than anything else, he came out like an enormous bully, determined not to let Ryan get in a word edgewise.
Martha Raddatz, the moderator, did nothing to stop Joe Biden from repeatedly interrupting a very polite Paul Ryan, forcing Ryan to exclaim that the American public might prefer for each to speak in turn; her questions were significantly tougher for Ryan than they were for Biden, and she even allowed Biden to jump in to supplement questions. The time imbalance was substantially in Biden’s favor.
As far as the substance, the debate was a mockery. With regard to foreign policy, Biden told lie after lie. Biden continued pushing the awful Obama administration flip-flops on their Libya story; Ryan accurately called it an “unraveling of American foreign policy.” Biden suggested that Iran was slowing its nuclear development, without a shred of evidence. On Afghanistan, Ryan showed fluency, but Biden’s anger overcame Ryan’s fluency and made Ryan appear tentative.
Ryan told the truth about Obama’s economic record, slapping Biden hard on the unemployment rate in Scranton, Pennsylvania. Biden repeated tired falsehoods about the size of the Romney tax cuts, and whined about lack of specifics on the Romney economic policy. He did score points on Romney’s tax policy; Ryan didn’t respond with the alacrity necessary, and didn’t give a good answer to why he had signed two letters requesting stimulus grants for constituents in his district. On defense policy, Ryan cited Obama’s defense cuts as problematic; Biden suggested they were just fine.
There were memorable moments. At one point, Biden questioned the infamous Mitt Romney statement about “the 47%.” Ryan shot back that Biden was surely familiar with saying things he didn’t quite articulate correctly. Biden then said he only said things he meant – which will surely make Americans wonder just what he meant when he said that Romney would put people in chains, or that the middle class had been “buried” under Obama.
But once again, the substance of the debate was not the substance. It was the attitude. Ryan was soft-spoken, sincere, and serious. Biden seemed to take the entire proceeding as a farce. In treating it so, he made it so. More importantly, he made the Obama administration look like what it is: a bullying, bloviating, obnoxious administration more interested in talking over its opponents than working with them to improve the lives of Americans.
FOX NEWS' CHRIS WALLACE: I've Never Seen A Candidate As Disrespectful As Joe Biden Was Tonight Brett LoGiurato, Oct 11, 2012
Fox News anchor Chris Wallace hammered Vice President Joe Biden's excessive smiling and laughing during the debate, saying that he's never seen anyone be so disrespectful in a presidential or vice presidential debate.
And Wallace said that he'd seen most of them — all but the first four in 1960. He called his demeanor "unprecedented."
"I don't believe I've ever seen a debate in which one participant was as openly disrespectful of the other as Biden was to Paul Ryan tonight," Wallace said.
He added: It was openly contemptuous and disrespectful."
Dear Congressman Ryan: Not comparing myself to you; against any reasonable measure you are obviously my better, but it seems like just yesterday I was in a position similar to yours.
Way-back-when I too was a “comer”, taken on by a failing organization to do my part in bringing it back from the brink of oblivion.
Whenever I made a simple and obvious suggestion some old-man would sneer at it.
I had an advantage you do not. – I was a GI Bill student & learned my leadership from crusty, old NCOs.
The next time you are engaging a disrespectful old-man do exactly as I say.
The next time an old-man interrupts you, lean into him. – However much tempted, probably not a good idea to grab his jacket but lean into him, stopping just shy of the point your eyes cross. Politely & calmly say “Excuse me, I was speaking”, then sit back down. – When the old-man says really dumb things look squarely at him, smile and wink, then look at somebody else & repeat.
Ok.. i am watching cnn analyze parts of the debate and as i watch Biden smirk and giggle ... it hits me... who he is acting like... that was recently in the media... and years ago too. That cop from Chicago Drew Peterson.... i could swear they were related. Sorry if that offends anyone.
I hear that the liberals are planning on leaving the country.... good luck to them, it is not as easy as walking across our southern border Most countries are NOT excited about an American coming to immigrate - unless you are baring large pork or pork barrel projects. Canada surely doesnt want you Cuba might. China doesn't need you And Russia would chew you up for breakfast.
Good luck - remember public education didnt teach you even the basic skills you need to survive in a foreign language / country.
PS: This hardly seems possible, but the mod stunk up the place even more than Biden...
I think that was the worst debate I've ever seen. She either couldn't, or didn't want to control a candidate that was completely out of control. At times Biden simply kept talking over Ryan. Anyone wanting to hear both sides and make an informed decision wouldn't appreciate this sort of "debate". He was acting like a member of "Code Pink" trying to shout down an opposing view. Totally disrespectful.
Ryan by contrast was respectful and unshaken. I do wish he would have taken some positive action to get some control of the debate however. I think addressing the moderator directly on this may have been appropriate. Perhaps handling it like 99savage could also have been effective. I don't think Ryan was prepared for this level of arrogance and disrespect. This reminded be of the Bush/Gore debate where Gore was huffing and puffing and walked over to Bush, but couldn't blow the house down.
Biden had six freaking days of debate prep and he still doesn't know the facts of what his own State Department said about the attack in Libya. This is a current event that he really should be on top of and he doesn't even know the basic facts!
Aesquire, you should really watch a video where you can see the split screen of both candidates. I think the way Biden was acting while Ryan was speaking would really change your mind on what went down.
I think that was the worst debate I've ever seen. She either couldn't, or didn't want to control a candidate that was completely out of control.
It wasn't a debate. I know you know this, but I'll emphasize for any democrats who might still be reading this thread: That was NOT a debate.
I read a quote from 0bama last night in which he said he's proud of Bidet's performance. I'm sure he is; no one can accuse Bidet of being too polite.
What a clown. What a rude, arrogant, dickhead clown, pretending to be a leader. I'm too lazy to look up which Alinsky rule Bidet was working so hard last night. Probably several of them.
From here to eternity, when someone mentions the word Democrat I'll see Bidet's sneering face and disgraceful behavior. Textbook definition, in my opinion.
Republican? Paul Ryan: Poised, professional, prepared to actually debate the issues, and facing not one but TWO opponents, neither of whom has the talent or class to be where they are, so resort to the only weapons in their arsenal: Rudeness, arrogance, and - in the case of Bidet - outright lunacy.
Speaking of the mod, does everyone know that 0bama was a guest at her wedding? Can you say conflict of interest? She absolutely fouled herself for the ch0sen 0ne last night; it'll take months (perhaps years) to bleach away the partisan stench she exuded. I hope the frikkin' casserole dish was worth it.
The world is laughing at America right now, and justifiably so: We should be ashamed of ourselves.
Crazy Old Joe Biden Laughing - 2012 VP Debate Published on Oct 12, 2012 by BigJoshCoxTV
Crazy old Joe Biden couldn't contain himself from laughing and smirking throughout the entire 2012 Vice Presidential debate. Afterwards they announced that his new campaign song will be the 1966 hit "They're Coming to Take Me Away, Ha-Haaa!" by Napoleon XIV.