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Fb1
Posted on Thursday, September 27, 2012 - 06:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


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Obama's Approval Rating Is Tanking

President Barack Obama's approval rating in Gallup's rolling survey has plunged 6 percentage points in two weeks, a troubling sign that puts him on shaky historical ground for re-election.

Obama's approval rating is down to just 46 percent, down from a high of 52 percent after the Democratic National Convention. His disapproval rating, meanwhile, now stands at 48 percent, up from 42 percent after the DNC. Altogether, that's a 12-point swing in two weeks.



Source, and read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/obama-approval-rati ng-2012-poll-convention-israel-2012-9#ixzz277XKxw2 p
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Court
Posted on Thursday, September 27, 2012 - 06:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Add to that . . . .the fact that somebody . . . Obama or Romney . . . is going to have to prance before Congress about February and seek authority to borrow another $2,000,000,000,000 and what Obama has done becomes much uglier

There's a LOT riding on this election.

What happens in 2014 hangs in the balance.
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Geedee
Posted on Thursday, September 27, 2012 - 08:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Top 10 Bad Economic Signs For Obama

"The few who understand the system, will either be so interested from it's profits or so dependent on it's favors, that there will be no opposition from that class."
Rothschild Brothers of London, 1863

"Give me control of a nation's money and I care not who makes it's laws"
Mayer Amschel Bauer Rothschild

"Whoever controls the volume of money in any country is absolute master of all industry and commerce."
James A. Garfield, President of the United States

"A great industrial nation is controlled by it's system of credit. Our system of credit is concentrated in the hands of a few men. We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated governments in the world - no longer a government of free opinion, no longer a government by conviction and vote of the majority, but a government by the opinion and duress of small groups of dominant men."
President Woodrow Wilson

Romney has no plan to kill the Federal Reserve. What's going to change?

http://lewrockwell.com/north/north1193.html

The entire Western World broke, all with 'their' Reserve Banks owned by the same bankers, and it is not by design?

Obama's not in control.

http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/40-point s-that-prove-that-barack-obama-and-mitt-romney-are -exactly-the-same
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Aesquire
Posted on Thursday, September 27, 2012 - 09:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Obama is a puppet of the super rich? Duh. See G Soros.

No difference? That's the strategy of the loser. Obama would LOVE you to believe there is no difference.

For one thing, I have my doubts as to several items of those 40 reasons.

For another, even though both candidates belong to fringe religions with very large and influential membership, they are NOT the same crazy religion. Say what you will about Mormons, that faith has NOT murdered hundreds of millions of people under it's rule. Obama's faith have, and ARE, as we speak.

Worth noting that Wilson was Progressive. Regretted his destruction of America later in life, I am told. Progressives always blame the bankers. The Jew Bankers if they can get away with it.

See the tape of the Public Radio guys insisting they can not only launder the money from the terrorist group, that they were experienced in laundering illegal money. Their support for becoming a propaganda arm of the Muslim Brotherhood, and, most telling, the insistence that, those other guys, newspapers, are run by Jews, but not US.

http://ironicsurrealism.com/2011/03/08/npr-sting-c aught-on-tape-executives-welcoming-muslim-brotherh ood-donors-calls-christians-radical-and-extreme/

Yeah, no difference. Right!
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Reepicheep
Posted on Thursday, September 27, 2012 - 10:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've got a pretty thick skin for Obama and his politics. I'm obviously right of center, but if the country elects a more left government then the people have spoken, and fair is fair.

All I demand is that whatever party is in control, they *can't* violate the constitution, and they have to pay as they go for what they do. They can't spend the money of future generations who have not elected them. Meaning if you want a social program, you can't fund it from future debt. But that's another rant for another day, right now I'm going to focus on the constitution part.

But this one has me *mad*. This part of the Obama speech to the UN really bugged me.


quote:

“The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam.”




I read it in context, and I get it that it is a big happy feel good speech saying bad is bad and good is good and puppies are cute and why can't we all just get along...

But that particular line should *never* have appeared. The rub isn't respecting other people beliefs... mutual respect is important. The rub is that when a particular group has declared specific believes that are antithetical to the constitution of the united states, we should reject those beliefs. Not because we are hateful or intolerant, but because they are antithetical to the constitution of the United States.

So in this case, the constitution guarantees the right of free speech. The future absolutely belongs to those that would slander the prophet... and to those that would worship the prophet, and to every other human being on the planet with a right to express their beliefs.

So I understand peacemaking and happy fluffy speeches, but the president of the United States should never have to compromise the constitution to do so.

Doesn't this bother those on the left? I've been annoyed by the ACLU in the past, not because I think anything they did was wrong, just because I thought they were fairly biased in terms of what cases they chose to pursue, and in terms of what I think are some fairly narrow and illogical views on the separation of Church and State. But at the end of the day I was happy to see them aggressively supporting the right of free speech, and was more or less on their side.

Lefties... remaining mute on these topics, be it a D or an R in power, is the surest path to a lost of freedom and social justice... can't you see that?

For the record, as a righty, I now acknowledge that we went too far with parts of the Patriot act. Different reasons to make the same damn mistake.
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Hootowl
Posted on Thursday, September 27, 2012 - 10:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"Worth noting that Wilson was Progressive. Regretted his destruction of America later in life, I am told. Progressives always blame the bankers. The Jew Bankers if they can get away with it."

Thanks. You saved me the trouble of pointing out what a sh*thead Wilson was.
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Fb1
Posted on Thursday, September 27, 2012 - 10:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So much nonsense being 'debated', as though it is factual, as though it is the truth.

Gary, pop quiz:


1) There are only two men who have a realistic chance of being President of the United States on November 7th? Can you name them?

2) Of these two, only ONE of them offers a realistic chance of not only saving America in the short term, but in the long term, as well. Can you name him?


Simple quiz, eh?


If you answered "Romney and Obama" to question #1, you're correct.

If you answered "Romney" to question #2, you're also correct.


Now then, this being the case: Wouldn't it make sense for ALL of us to do, and say, everything in our power to see that Romney is elected?


Your posts about central banks and the like are undoubtedly based in fact.

However, they do NOTHING to support either candidate, particularly Romney.

Polite suggestion: Start a separate thread to expound on the evils of central banks, the New World Order, etc., etc., etc.?


If Romney is for real - and God help us all that he is - let's get him elected and see how he does. My guess is that he'll do just fine. My guess is that his heart is in the right place.

With four more years of Obama, we know beyond a shadow of a doubt what we get: A new world dictator.

With four years of Romney, we might actually get a Patriot who believes in the Constitution and Bill of Rights. Right?


If we don't elect him, we'll never know.

And we will NEVER be the same.

FB

(Message edited by fb1 on September 27, 2012)
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Fb1
Posted on Thursday, September 27, 2012 - 10:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

But this one has me *mad*. This part of the Obama speech to the UN really bugged me.

quote: “The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam.”


Reep, bugged me, too. Obama sent a very clear and chilling message to America and the world with those words.

I have no doubt where his true allegiances lie. The Constitution? In the past four years he's done nothing but wipe his ass with it.

Obama's speech bugged Allen West, too:

quote:

The President continues to offer up apologies....When tolerance becomes a one way street it leads to cultural suicide....
By Congressman Allen West on Tuesday, September 25, 2012 at 9:48am

In his speech today to the United Nations, President Obama stated six times that the attacks across the Islamic world are attributed to a silly video. Furthermore, he refused to use the words terrorist attack in referring to what occurred in Benghazi Libya at our US Consulate on the 11th anniversary of 9-11. He continues to offer up apologies instead of defending our hard earned First Amendment right to freedom of speech and expression. There is no message to this silly video trailer, and it is beneath the dignity and esteem of the Office of the President of the United States to mention it at all. When tolerance becomes a one way street it leads to cultural suicide. I shall not be tolerant of the intolerant. I know about the UN Resolution 1618 which would make any statement deemed by the Organization of Islamic Countries (OIC) “offensive’ to Islam a crime…..NOT ON MY WATCH FELLAS!

My statement to the United Nations would have been, “The future does not belong to those who attack our Embassies and Consulates and kill our Ambassadors. The Angel of Death in the form of an American Bald Eagle will visit you and wreak havoc and destruction upon your existence”

Source: http://www.facebook.com/notes/congressman-allen-we st/the-president-continues-to-offer-up-apologieswh en-tolerance-becomes-a-one-way-st/408947045824995




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Sifo
Posted on Thursday, September 27, 2012 - 10:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

“The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam.” (insert religion of choice)

Reepicheep, I agree with you on this line. It stuck out like a sore thumb in my mind too. It would have been slightly better if he hadn't singled out Islam (we all know it's open season on Christianity). Even as a generic statement, it just shows a lack of passion for our Constitution. BO has made it clear that he doesn't like how the Constitution restricts the powers of the President. I have little doubt that given the chance BO would be happy to become dictator for life. This election is important in that it is our best opportunity to see that we don't give ANYONE that chance.

Give all of the above, I really wasn't the least bit surprised by that line in his speech.
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Reindog
Posted on Thursday, September 27, 2012 - 10:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The utter silence of people who support Obama on this thread is troubling. I know that people who support Obama are reading this thread but refuse to engage in reasoned debate. It can not be out of fear because there has been nothing but respect is shown here. Can it be that that a logical argument in support of Obama is not possible? If this is true, why support him at all?

The stakes for our country are so high with this election that it must be discussed everywhere. Even on a motorcycle board.
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Oldog
Posted on Thursday, September 27, 2012 - 10:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

How can any one let this go on
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/09/27/us-offi cials-knew-libya-attack-was-terrorism-within-24-ho urs-sources-confirm/

I WILL SEE YOU IN NOVEMBER BARRY!-YOUR FIRED!
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Sifo
Posted on Thursday, September 27, 2012 - 11:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Can it be that that a logical argument in support of Obama is not possible? If this is true, why support him at all?

If this question mattered, why would people support such failed ideas such as socialism and communism? Some people believe aristocracies make sense. Some actually support dictatorships. I don't understand it at all, but it's all out there.
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Sifo
Posted on Thursday, September 27, 2012 - 11:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The more we learn, the more Benghazi looks like a gross security failure.

No kidding.

quote:

In his United Nations speech on Tuesday, President Obama talked about the September 11 attack on the U.S. consulate in Libya and declared that "there should be no doubt that we will be relentless in tracking down the killers and bringing them to justice." What he didn't say is how relentless he'll be in tracking down the security lapses and intelligence failures that contributed to the murders. Let's say there's some doubt about that.



At least from what I understand BO has started actually attending the daily security briefings again. I guess that's one security lapse that was easy to find.

I couldn't believe that our government was upset that CNN went into a "crime scene" and removed the ambassador's journal claiming that they were disturbing "evidence". REALLY? Just how secure was the "evidence" at this crime scene that they just walked into and removed the evidence. This is nothing but placing blame on another party to avoid the blame that belongs on this administration.
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Fb1
Posted on Thursday, September 27, 2012 - 12:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sifo, shame on you: You're making the president look like an idiot.

Carry on.
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Sifo
Posted on Thursday, September 27, 2012 - 12:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I don't have the ability to make anyone look like an idiot against their will.
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Fb1
Posted on Thursday, September 27, 2012 - 01:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Roger that. : )


quote:

Morning Bell: Obama and Congress Are Choosing to Cause a Recession
Amy Payne, September 27, 2012

President Obama recently said, “The most important lesson I’ve learned is you can’t change Washington from the inside.” That’s demoralizing to hear when a recession is bearing down on the economy—and it’s an inside job.

The Congressional Budget Office has forecasted a fresh recession to hit next year if Taxmageddon, a nearly $500 billion tax increase, hits the nation and Congress and the President drive us off the “fiscal cliff.” President Obama has done nothing but ignore this warning.

...What makes this recession different, and predictable, is that the disruptive force is Washington policies and, even more, Washington behaviors—policies and behaviors for which the nation can thank the Congress and especially President Obama. The policy is Taxmageddon. The behavior is intentional, insistent inaction. The consequence is recession. The response should and will be outrage.

...Economists talk a lot about “uncertainty.” Why is uncertainty such a big deal?

Business owners are looking at next year’s taxes already and thinking they can’t afford to hire. Investors are holding back from expansions and new ventures. This massive uncertainty is holding back all growth and keeping unemployment stubbornly above 8 percent, while millions have dropped out of the labor force because they are so discouraged.

Uncertainty affects your personal finances, too. Think about this: If you’re a middle-class American family, Taxmageddon means that your taxes are going up about $4,100 next year. How does that affect your thinking about traveling for Thanksgiving in a couple of months? Buying Christmas presents? What about saving for retirement or your children’s education?

It starts to hit home that you have to come up with that $4,100 somehow. You’re going to have to make cuts in your lifestyle to be able to pay this tax increase.

The best the economy has to offer right now is a holding pattern. Holding onto our money and holding our breath, waiting for the gigantic shoe of Taxmageddon to drop on top of us.

...Visit Heritage’s Taxmageddon page to learn more, see how it will impact you, and see Taxmageddon’s impact on your state.

Quick Hits:
•Businesses have dropped their outlook for the third quarter, “lowering projections for sales, capital spending and hiring,” reports The Washington Times.
•Second-quarter U.S. economic growth was just revised downward.
•Yesterday, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton became the highest-ranking Obama Administration official to link the Libya consulate attack to al-Qaeda. Heritage’s Jim Phillips reported on the possible connection September 13.
•In his recent interview with 60 Minutes, President Obama described U.S. relations with the Middle East as having “bumps in the road.” Check out our new timeline of Middle Eastern relations since Obama took office.



Source, and read more (including hyperlinks): http://blog.heritage.org/2012/09/27/morning-bell-o bama-and-congress-are-choosing-to-cause-a-recessio n/?roi=echo3-13245568126-9810262-ebe4b184b9c01a8a5 6c695fc5d635444&utm_source=Newsletter&utm_medium=E mail&utm_campaign=Morning%2BBell
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Court
Posted on Thursday, September 27, 2012 - 02:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>>>And we will NEVER be the same.

I think there are many who fail to grasp the gravity of that statement.

I compare it to a car that's just been driven off a cliff over a gorge a mile deep.

We are presently in the air. Those who fail to understand the economic principles in play cite things like the rising stock market, a "saved" GM and other poor examples.

If you're wanting a cursory glimpse . . . steal a credit card . . take a $100,000 cash advance and then declare yourself "rich".

Given the current and instant legislation before us . . .the shit hits the administrative fan in the next 18 months.

Romney and Ryan (arguably one of the most budget fluent folks in Washington and a fellow (unlike the President or ANY Democrat, has actually prepared and submitted a budget) have a plan that could work.

American business . . . fool not thyself . . .is currently "on hold" awaiting the outcome of this election. Businesses haven't a clue as to what the tax environment or legal theater looks like for even the next 2 years. Hiring employees or even thinking about expanding a business, i the USA, in the current environment is a fool's errand.

It's a really scary time and folks who can are moving their chess pieces around the board accordingly.

. . . . .

On another topic . . someone needs to be brought up on charges of treason over the murder of the Ambassador and the 3 Americans who were with him.

News, news that has been suppressed, is starting to surface and what is emerging is perhaps the boldest and most egregious act of war ever perpetrated on America.

In the meantime . . The White House continues to parade a band of idiots, this poor Jay Carney guy who even looks uncomfortable lying and this Susan Rice, who hit 6 shows in a single day, to perpetuate this lie.

Scary stuff when a group of hooligans have no reservations about coming onto American soil and dealing us an ass kicking in our own yard.

Worse yet when our "'leader" apologizes "just in case we angered them".

Scary times
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Kyrocket
Posted on Thursday, September 27, 2012 - 03:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Anyone watching Revolution? I just finished the second episode. I think the current admin., if re elected, will become the Monroe Militia. Eerie.
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Fb1
Posted on Thursday, September 27, 2012 - 03:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

America, do we have Israel's back?

Historically, yes.

Under President Obama? I don't think even his most ardent supporters believe this to be true. In fact, perhaps it is exactly why they worship him so.

Romney and Netanyahu are close personal friends. This bodes well for Israel, if...............

What say you, Mr. Obama? Are you prepared to fight for Israel's survival? If so, prove it. I'm damn tired of simply seeing your lips flap.


quote:

Published on Sep 27, 2012 by RJCHQ

The Republican Jewish Coalition presents "Perilous Times," a mini-documentary in which Israeli experts and everyday citizens candidly discuss their concerns about the U.S.-Israel relationship under Pres. Obama.

Among the notable experts consulted for this film are :
• Zalman Shoval, former Israeli ambassador to the U.S. and a highly-respected diplomat;
• Oren Kessler, foreign affairs correspondent at the Jerusalem Post;
• Barry Rubin, an expert on terrorism and Middle East affairs;
• Jacob Levy, Israel's leading pollster and founder of Gallup Israel;
• Itamar Marcus, founder and director of Palestinian Media Watch; and
• Yair Shamir, leading Israeli businessman; former chair of El Al and Israel Aerospace; son of former PM Yitzhak Shamir.

For more information about the RJC, visit www.RJCHQ.org.



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Fb1
Posted on Thursday, September 27, 2012 - 07:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

This is old news in the scheme of things, but now that the election is approaching, concurrent with what seems to be a "perfect storm" for massive unrest in America (read creeping Middle East rage), I thought I'd dust off this topic as food for thought.

Here's the opening to an 11-page article by Forbes.com that dissects:

quote:

Obama's Plan To Seize Control Of Our Economy And Our Lives
By Jim Powell, 04/29/2012

President Obama has made clear that he’s determined to continue pushing his “progressive” agenda, regardless of constitutional limitations on his power. He aims to have his way by issuing more and more executive orders.

The most ominous sign of possible things to come appeared on March 16, 2012, when President Obama signed executive order 13603 about “National Defense Resources Preparedness.”

This 10-page document is a blueprint for a federal takeover of the economy that would dwarf the looming Obamacare takeover of the health insurance business. Specifically, Obama’s plan involves seizing control of:

* “All commodities and products that are capable of being ingested by either human beings or animals”

* “All forms of energy”

* “All forms of civil transportation”

* “All usable water from all sources”

* “Health resources – drugs, biological products, medical devices, materials, facilities, health supplies, services and equipment”

* Forced labor (or “induction” as the executive order delicately refers to military conscription)



Source, and read much, much more: http://www.forbes.com/sites/jimpowell/2012/04/29/o bamas-plan-to-seize-control-of-our-economy-and-our -lives/



Here's a non-PDF link to EO 13603: http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2012/03 /16/executive-order-national-defense-resources-pre paredness



Here's what the American Thinker thinks about EO 13603:

quote:

Obama signed, on March 22, 2012, Executive Order 13603 ("National Defense Resources Preparedness"). It claims powers in peacetime and in times of national emergency to take control of the U.S. economy for the "national defense," and to control the distribution of any material "in the civilian market." The problem here is that arms are distributed in the civilian market. Executive Order 13603 makes "it easier for law enforcement agencies ... to seize the lawful weapons of US citizens without arresting the weapon's owner or offering them any semblance of due process." Has Obama ever heard of the Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, or that "the Supreme Court held that the president does not have authority to seize private property in the absence of either specifically enumerated authority under Article Two of the Constitution or statutory authority conferred on him by Congress"? Does his signing of Executive Order 13603 have anything to do with the government's "accidental order" of millions of rounds of ammunition?



Source: http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/09/will_obama_ become_a_lame_duck.html



And in fact, the article referenced above goes into great detail about MANY executive orders that Obama has decreed while in office, every one of them troubling if you believe in the Constitution, Bill of Rights, and your inherent rights as an American citizen:

quote:

Obama signed Executive Order 13618 ("Assignment of National Security and Emergency Preparedness Communications Functions") on July 6, 2012, giving him control, through the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), over private communications in the event of a "national emergency." The problem is that nowhere in Executive Order 13618 is the term "national emergency" ever defined, either succinctly or abstractly. The closest thing to a definition can be found in Section 2.2 (b): "... advise the President on the prioritization of radio spectrum and wired communications that support NS/EP [National Security and Emergency Preparedness] functions."

By Executive Order 13618, DHS has the power to "prioritize" (whatever that means -- not defined either) "government communications over privately owned telephone and Internet systems in emergencies." The "Electronic Privacy Information Center [EPIC] warn[s] that it ['prioritize'] really means 'seize'." EPIC lawyer Amie Stephanovich said:


The previous orders did not give DHS those authorities over private and commercial networks. ... That's a new authority. This should have been done by Congress, so there could have been proper debate about it. This is not authority that should be granted by executive order.

Under Executive Order 13618, Obama can say that any news not favorable to him is subversive, that it provokes the peace achieved by his declaration of a national emergency, and have it removed. So much for the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. But that's what the U.S. Constitution says, not what Executive Order 13618 says. Where is the Supreme Court when we need it?

Obama has extended the "national emergency" declaration annually, most recently on July 24, 2011, through Executive Order 13581. Obama said (emphasis added):

On July 24, 2011, by Executive Order 13581, I declared a national emergency pursuant to the International Emergency Economic Powers Act to deal with the unusual and extraordinary threat to the national security, foreign policy and economy of the United States constituted by the activities of significant transnational criminal organizations.

Executive Order 13617 ("Blocking Property of the Government of the Russian Federation Relating to the Disposition of Highly Enriched Uranium Extracted From Nuclear Weapons"), signed June 27, 2012, says, "... the Russian Federation continues to constitute an unusual and extraordinary threat to the national security and foreign policy of the United States, and hereby declare a national emergency to deal with that threat."

Obama signed, on March 22, 2012, Executive Order 13603 ("National Defense Resources Preparedness"). It claims powers in peacetime and in times of national emergency to take control of the U.S. economy for the "national defense," and to control the distribution of any material "in the civilian market." The problem here is that arms are distributed in the civilian market. Executive Order 13603 makes "it easier for law enforcement agencies ... to seize the lawful weapons of US citizens without arresting the weapon's owner or offering them any semblance of due process." Has Obama ever heard of the Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, or that "the Supreme Court held that the president does not have authority to seize private property in the absence of either specifically enumerated authority under Article Two of the Constitution or statutory authority conferred on him by Congress"? Does his signing of Executive Order 13603 have anything to do with the government's "accidental order" of millions of rounds of ammunition?

Here is a very interesting 11-page article about Executive Order 13603 by Jim Powell entitled "Obama's Plan To Seize Control Of Our Economy And Our Lives." Powell says, "He [Obama] aims to have his way by issuing more and more executive orders." Powell also states that "executive orders arise from 'implied constitutional and statutory authority'." He continues, "There isn't anything in the Constitution that authorizes an executive order[.]"

Now we discover that there is a proposed executive order to "work with the National Institute of Standards and Technology to establish the cybersecurity standards" to supposedly protect the "U.S. power grid from electronic attacks." The problem is that the power grid is not under attack. Is this yet another attempt by Obama to control every aspect of our lives?

Look for a "national emergency" to occur on November 7, 2012, because Obama was not re-elected on November 6. Alternatively, by signing Executive Order 13603, Obama has given himself martial law powers and can cancel the election. So if polls are not going his way (despite desperate MSM efforts), he may just declare a national emergency before November 6 and dispense with the election altogether.



Source: http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/09/will_obama_ become_a_lame_duck.html

The article lists hyperlinks for each EO and to further information and study for the interested reader, i.e., the American thinker.


Hopefully the unrest in the Middle East doesn't explode here, too. (Did ya hear about the "anti-free speech" rally taking place in Dearborn, Michigan tomorrow??)

If it does, and things get really, REALLY ugly (especially if Obama loses the election), it might be worth your while to see what he's been up to while many of US haven't been paying attention.



It's almost time, America.

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Sifo
Posted on Thursday, September 27, 2012 - 07:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Really? Protesting free speech.

How do you spell irony?
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Fb1
Posted on Thursday, September 27, 2012 - 07:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

This is worth dusting off again, too:

quote:

The Hope And The Change - Official Movie Trailer
Published on Aug 21, 2012 by citizensunited07

http://TheHopeAndTheChange.com

The surprising personal journeys of 40 Democrats and Independents from across America who supported Obama in 2008. Available NOW on DVD.





220,000 hits and counting. Nice.
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Fb1
Posted on Thursday, September 27, 2012 - 09:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Oldog, here's a followup to your post above...

How can any one let this go on
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/09/27/us-offi cials-knew-libya-attack-was-terrorism-within-24-ho urs-sources-confirm/

I WILL SEE YOU IN NOVEMBER BARRY!-YOUR FIRED!


...about the White House covering up what the rest of us already knew about the murder of our Ambassador to Libya: It was a pre-planned military assault, i.e. an act of war.

Recall that the WH denied this for days, in spite of overwhelming evidence to the contrary, including testimony from the President of Libya himself.

What a pack of scoundrels we have in Washington. November 6th can't come soon enough.

Oh, get this: Right at the end of the piece below, Jake Tapper says that although Obama has vowed to bring the perps to justice and has assigned the FBI to be lead investigator, here it is sixteen days after the attack and the FBI HAS NOT EVEN ARRIVED ON SCENE YET!

I smell multiple charges of treason...





quote:

Jake Tapper Reports On Obama Administration Misleading On Benghazi Attack
Posted by The Right Scoop on September 27th, 2012

A great report by Jake Tapper on the fact that the White House knew the Benghazi attack wasn’t caused by the [redacted] video, yet went with that anyway:




According to the Washington Examiner, Democrats are now joining Republicans to find out what’s really going on here:


quote:

Senate Democrats joined Republicans Thursday in questioning the Obama administration’s handling of the fatal Sept. 11 attack on the U.S. consulate in Libya and why the administration refused for days to acknowledge that it was a terrorist attack linked to al Qaeda.

The Senate Foreign Relations Committee, chaired by Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass., circulated a bipartisan letter addressed to Deputy Secretary of State Thomas Nides, asking for an “accounting of the attacks against U.S. missions in Egypt, Libya and Yemen,” according to a copy obtained by The Washington Examiner.

The lawmakers are also demanding to know whether the administration had any advance warnings of the Libyan attack and, if so, whether it had shared that information with U.S. personnel on the ground.




Source: http://www.therightscoop.com/jake-tapper-reports-o n-obama-administration-misleading-on-benghazi-atta ck/

(Message edited by fb1 on September 27, 2012)
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Reindog
Posted on Thursday, September 27, 2012 - 09:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

This is getting Nixonian. Republicans finally rejected Nixon 1.5 years after his second inaugural. To spare the country, Democrats should reject Obama BEFORE the upcoming election. Watergate was PAINFUL.

Benghazi-gate, anyone?
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Fb1
Posted on Thursday, September 27, 2012 - 09:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The hits just keep on coming:

quote:

Giuliani: Absolutely Frightening That Obama Says Still Room For Diplomacy With Iran. Where’s He Living, On Mars?
Posted by The Right Scoop on September 27th, 2012

A great interview with Rudy Giuliani who charges that the Obama administration is covering up what happened in Benghazi because it destroys their political narrative that they have won the war on terror. He also says that at this point we don’t even have a president any more, we have a candidate, noting Obama’s absence on the world scene with the Middle East in turmoil.

Regarding Netanyahu’s speech on Iran, Giuliani says that, politics aside, that it’s absolutely frightening that Obama believes there is still room for diplomacy with Iran, especially considering the words of Netanyahu today. He asks if Obama is living on Mars?

Watch below:

http://www.therightscoop.com/giuliani-absolutely-f rightening-that-obama-says-still-room-for-diplomac y-with-iran-wheres-he-living-on-mars/


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Fb1
Posted on Thursday, September 27, 2012 - 10:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Tom, this seems like a REALLY sucky time to be hacking a big, bloody chunk out of our defense budget, doncha think?

quote:

Obama's Sequestration: Imperiling Us at Home and Weakening Us Abroad
By Elise Cooper, Sep 27, 2012

Muslim nations are imploding against the looming backdrop of sequestration, the trillion-dollar budget cuts mandated by the Budget Control Act, passed by Congress last year. As of January 1, 2013, half of those cuts must come from defense, which amounts to about $600 billion over a period of ten years. American Thinker interviewed experts to get their opinions on how the Obama administration is gutting America's national security.

President Obama unveiled his sequestration plan, which calls for cutting discretionary defense appropriations by 9.4%, a $55-billion hit. Among the projected cuts: spending for weapons procurement and shipbuilding, money spent on the war in Afghanistan, a reduction of readiness for many non-deployed units, delays in investments for new equipment and facilities, and cutbacks in military research and equipment repairs.

On the one hand is President Obama embracing these defense cuts, and on the other hand is Mitt Romney, who stated, "We can always find places to end waste. But we cannot cancel program after program, we cannot jeopardize critical missions, and we cannot cut corners in the quality of the equipment and training we provide."

Source, and read much more: http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/09/obamas_sequ estration_imperiling_us_at_home_and_weakening_us_a broad.html



Just awesome.
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Aesquire
Posted on Thursday, September 27, 2012 - 11:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

We just lost a bunch (300+) of jobs as Sikorsky is pulling out of NY ( southern tier ) with the cancellation of helicopter contracts. Defense cutbacks.

Now I'm perfectly willing to accept that we should spend less on defense, but we are in the middle of a very large freaking war right now. Yes, we've pulled the majority of troops out of Iraq, and are preparing to abandon Afghanistan, but that's just 2 of the fronts we're engaged on.

The Defense cuts were planned, and built in to the deliberate act of budgetless accounting indulged in by the D's for political reasons..... I think we're way past malpractice and into impeachable.

They are not going to impeach themselves.

Since they police themselves, we only have one recourse.
Vote them all out. Seriously.

No need to argue, just vote against the incumbent.

( Unless it's a relative, in which case, hey! I'd love one of those relative jobs, like Michelle had. ( she's first lady now, had to give up the $300+k job to make kids eat veggies. )

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/OTUS/hungry-kids-gr umble-healthy-school-lunches/story?id=17324285#.UG ODKkY_i33

http://www.jsonline.com/news/education/students-st rike-against-new-federal-school-lunch-rules-t96t7s p-170124676.html

Here's some journalism. (rare stuff this )

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embed ded&v=G5DTqvX74O4
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Thursday, September 27, 2012 - 11:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Just got an email form the whitehouse... because I signed up for their 'updates'...
think it would be something on the embassy, the passing of our ambassador, the death of our service men....


nope - the president is proud to welcome the para-athletes to the white house, and to again ask for your support through garage sales, parties and of course gift registries.....

apparently if you do not talk of the news - it did not happen.
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Geedee
Posted on Friday, September 28, 2012 - 04:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"Polite suggestion: Start a separate thread to expound on the evils of central banks, the New World Order, etc., etc., etc.?"

Your point is taken Fb1.

Before I crawl back into my hole in the ground, I find it interesting that you post an article Morning Bell: Obama and Congress Are Choosing to Cause a Recession
Amy Payne, September 27, 2012


President Obama recently said, “The most important lesson I’ve learned is you can’t change Washington from the inside.” That’s demoralizing to hear when a recession is bearing down on the economy — and it’s an inside job.

That is an example, but not a good one, of what I meant when I said "So much nonsense being 'debated', as though it is factual, as though it is the truth."

What Obama said was “The most important lesson I’ve learned is you can’t change Washington from the inside. You can only change it from the outside."

Selective quoting, inaccurate reporting, to support an opinion.


It is very easy to find the information to substantiate an opinion, whatever it may be. I'm not an Obama fan, but I'd rather find out why he has been ineffective during his term of office. Why did he continue most of Bush's policies, and even enlarged on some of them? Why has he failed on his promises. It's pretty obvious he's been hamstrung. And then he tells you, directly, in the clip I posted above "You can only change it from the outside."



"Thanks. You saved me the trouble of pointing out what a sh*thead Wilson was."

Why would an American, achieving the 'high' office of President, do such a thing as sign in to law 'The Federal Reserve Act', the most "Influential Act in US/World History" since the Constitution? I guess he was 'made' to.


"All I demand is that whatever party is in control, they *can't* violate the constitution, and they have to pay as they go for what they do. They can't spend the money of future generations who have not elected them. Meaning if you want a social program, you can't fund it from future debt. But that's another rant for another day, right now I'm going to focus on the constitution part.

That's exactly my point. Under The Fed, ALL money is issued as debt, plus interest, which is not issued. The debt can not be repaid. Current system can't be fixed, even by President Chuck Norris.


"The utter silence of people who support Obama on this thread is troubling."

It's not really welcoming as a support Obama thread. It's more a sling as much crap at Obama as you can thread.


Now, so I don't upset you guys anymore, I might have to go and annoy Moxnix in his thread ; ). Good luck America.

Gary
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Fb1
Posted on Friday, September 28, 2012 - 05:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It's not really welcoming as a support Obama thread. It's more a sling as much crap at Obama as you can thread.

You're 100% correct: This thread is meant in no way, shape or form to support Obama. I want him out of office. At best, he's an embarrassment to our country. At worst, he's a traitor (and I'll be damned disappointed if he, and several of his cabinet members, are not brought up on charges of such).

Sling mud at him? Dude, that sounds like we're scouring the 'net trying to find dirt on the guy. WE'RE not destroying America, HE is!

Hell yeah, I'm doing everything in my power to help see that he is not elected. The "crap" I post about him is crap HE'S done, and deserves to be highlighted. The mainstream media is FINALLY coming around, but in the meantime it's the alternate media, including a small, eclectic motorcycle forum, that's doing the yeoman's work in exposing this bastard for who he really is.

You give yourself too much credit for "upsetting" us with your posts. I find them thought-provoking, and I've learned a lot. You know WAY more about all this stuff than I do.

That said, you're right: This thread is about Obama. More specifically, it's about doing what we can to make sure he's not reelected.

I, for one, would welcome honest debate as to why he SHOULD be reelected, but all we ever get is drive-by stinkbombs from the folks who have something to lose if he is defeated. Never debate, always childish nonsense.

Speaking only for myself, I encourage you to stick around, and continue posting. I don't know how I could have been any more polite or respectful of you when I suggested that you start a separate thread for the central banking/NWO stuff. I didn't say it wasn't important, I didn't say I didn't believe any of it, but I DID say that THIS thread probably isn't the place for it.

I'm typing fast as I need to get on with my chores. There's plenty more to say, but this will have to do for now.

"Good luck America"? Well, thanks for that, we need all we can get right now.

Ferris
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