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Pkforbes87
Posted on Wednesday, September 26, 2012 - 12:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.wired.com/business/2012/09/save-your-ba con-shortage-on-the-way/
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Cyclonedon
Posted on Wednesday, September 26, 2012 - 01:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Eat more chicken!
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Mr_grumpy
Posted on Wednesday, September 26, 2012 - 04:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think McD's & BK may be stockpiling to corner the market.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/features/food/stew/l a-fi-mo-five-guys-burger-mcdonalds-20120918,0,3554 990.story
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Danger_dave
Posted on Wednesday, September 26, 2012 - 04:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.ilovebacon.com
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Geedee
Posted on Wednesday, September 26, 2012 - 06:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"...U.S. pig farmers were losing $30.88 per head due to rising feed prices."

Feed them fruit loops.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-19627 592

Blame the muslims.
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Cowboy
Posted on Wednesday, September 26, 2012 - 07:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Wild hogs are in good supply in my area and I have a very nice smoke house I dont see any proplem in my fuure other than having to shoot a few thives.
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Jaimec
Posted on Wednesday, September 26, 2012 - 09:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I blame Obama. Hell, if (as Rush says) he can send Hurricanes into Florida, then causing a drought in the heartland is child's play. I'm sure it's a secret Muslim ritual he performs in the inner bowels of the White House. In fact, I'm sure I saw a report on this on Fox News just the other day!!
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Glitch
Posted on Wednesday, September 26, 2012 - 09:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Right on Cowboy!
No shortages here either.
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Aesquire
Posted on Wednesday, September 26, 2012 - 10:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Funny, I blame The Greenies, AND Obama.

The price of feed is up because we are burning food in our cars and bikes. ( see food to fuel thread ) Corn WAS the #1 feed for cows, chickens and pigs.

The price of feed is also up because the price of energy is up. Diesel is up. ( what the frack do you think tractors, trucks and generators run on? Moonbeams and Unicorn farts? Only In Obama's head. )

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-19688358

Wild hogs, deer, squirrel, are ok alternate sources for protein for the Rural guy, ( haven't seen a lot of hogs locally, but we got deer up the a$$. Ask the body shops ) But the Urban dweller is stuck with the market, or the Ted Turner solution. ( not legal in NY, I suspect )

This trend has already led to food riots worldwide, helped lead to regime change in Egypt, which we can also blame Obama for, directly.

Jaimec, Haven't listened to Rush in years, I assume he still blames everything on Dems and Liberals. Just as Chris Mathews blames everything on Reps and Conservatives. ( here's a hint, they are both right! but sadly, Rush is right-er. How much does that suck? )
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Buellinachinashop
Posted on Wednesday, September 26, 2012 - 10:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm stockpiling up cans of BaconBits. I will have my bacon, one way or another.
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Aesquire
Posted on Wednesday, September 26, 2012 - 10:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Correction, many farmers now run generators on the methane from herd manure, and bio waste just like "Mad Max, Beyond Thunderdome".

Smaller systems to turn food waste into cooking gas are going up in the third world where a few western entrepreneurs with a taste for technological charity are teaching people to build them. Good technology for those too poor to believe places. ( the majority of the planet. )

http://www.takamotobiogas.com/

http://www.pakenergysolution.com/p/products_08.htm l

All that is Conservationist and technological is not bad. Centralized authority deliberately raising the prices of food and energy to exert more control over the masses, is.

http://www.cookatease.com/biogas-biodiesel-from-ki tchen-food-waste

Government must make it compulsory to set up biogas plants to recycle food waste/kitchen waste in all cities and towns (like compulsory rain water harvesting arrangement in Tamil Nadu).

So easy to slip from good idea, to mandatory police state to enforce your toilet habits, isn't it?
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Rick_a
Posted on Wednesday, September 26, 2012 - 10:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

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Jaimec
Posted on Wednesday, September 26, 2012 - 04:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My conservative friend on Facebook pointed out the REAL reason for the bacon shortage:

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/25-things-that-hel ped-create-the-world-bacon-shortage/

It's all the fault of that bastard Harvey!!
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Aesquire
Posted on Wednesday, September 26, 2012 - 04:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/406 2/689913.html?1344783869

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2182719/Sa ve-bacon-British-pig-farmers-say-rising-cost-feed- forcing-business.html
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Jaimec
Posted on Wednesday, September 26, 2012 - 05:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://news.yahoo.com/aporkalypse-not-now-bacon-sh ortage-exaggerated-experts-160739385.html
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Jaimec
Posted on Wednesday, September 26, 2012 - 05:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

As long as I can buy those wonderful little cans of Spam, I'm good.
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Kenm123t
Posted on Wednesday, September 26, 2012 - 06:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

ROFL Jaimec Stereotyping your self LOL
We can trail Jamie by the spam cans and Court by the bbq stained roads.
I forget the Okra Guys lol
EBR guys by the fried Cheese curd wrappers
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86129squids
Posted on Wednesday, September 26, 2012 - 06:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Is bacon the ONLY thing to be concerned about?

The pig is one of the few, maybe only, animals who are 100% edible (according to Bourdain)- are my pork roasts, chops, even chicharrones going up in price?

Are we about to go after Iran or Syria with bacon bombs?! Crazy as it may seem, a messy pork explosion where we want it might help.
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Jaimec
Posted on Wednesday, September 26, 2012 - 10:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mmmmm... Spam and Okra casserole!!
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Aesquire
Posted on Thursday, September 27, 2012 - 12:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That casserole, delivered from high altitude, from a stealth plane, may be just the weapon we need!

Yes all Pork Products will go up in price. It's agriculture, agriculture depends on energy, energy is deliberately expensive. Farmers and the transport system have no choice but to cut jobs and raise prices. It just costs more to get a pound of pork to market. ( or beef, or bread.... )

Seriously, either the price goes up or the supply drops off. Then the price goes up.

You have to recall there is a time lag here. You have to take little pigs and make big pigs out of them, or no bacon. That takes about 6 months, birth to market.

You also have to have a ready supply of little pigs.

When you get rid of the herd to cut your losses, you have no more little pigs. You'd have to buy some to restart production. Depending on how much pig farming is cut back, recovery could be 1 to 5 years. The math is well known for populations of livestock.

Odd part too, is the price the farmer can get goes down when the market floods with pigs from going out of business sales.
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Aesquire
Posted on Thursday, September 27, 2012 - 07:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/13/pink-slim e-abc-news-lawsuit-defamation_n_1880709.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pink_slime

Sometimes I think you really don't want to know how food is made.
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Daves
Posted on Thursday, September 27, 2012 - 09:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Might have something to do with the drought in most of the mid west this year.
Here in Iowa they are already picking what corn there is. Getting about 1/2 the normal yield.
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No_rice
Posted on Thursday, September 27, 2012 - 04:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Might have something to do with the drought in most of the mid west this year.
Here in Iowa they are already picking what corn there is. Getting about 1/2 the normal yield.

yep, and they are what... a solid 2 if not almost 3 weeks ahead of normal harvest this year, trying to get what there is out before there is none.
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Cowboy
Posted on Thursday, September 27, 2012 - 10:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I just finished supper of the best smoked sausage ever 50/50 deer and wild pig. man life is good
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Aesquire
Posted on Thursday, September 27, 2012 - 10:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My grandpa's Deer and Pork sausage was primo. ( Professional butcher ) It's a nigh perfect combo. Perfect for Chili.

Multiple factors in the farm business. Weather, etc. you have to be 2 years ahead on weather estimates and planning since many crops the seed you plant is to get the seed for next year.

The Green Revolution in agriculture is what has fed this planet since the population grew beyond old school organic farming.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Revolution

Yes there are still famines in remote dictatorships, where the country is a war and the glorious leaders steal the foreign aid, or restrict it from the domestic enemy. That's more distribution than capacity to feed people. We've been amazing at that for years.

I don't expect a single bad season to be that big a deal. Higher prices on a lot of stuff, sure, that's how it works. We'll just eat more okra and less steak.

The problem is the other, political/religious factors with the Greenie movement. Between high energy costs and the propaganda efforts against business, meat, and wealth, this may approach a perfect storm where we go back to periodic famines. ( basically the bad old days early 20th century back to the Big Bang. )

Rather avoid that.
Not worrying about it too much.... I'm a slow burn metabolism guy. Either the last left when you all starve, or the first one eaten.
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Jaimec
Posted on Friday, September 28, 2012 - 08:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


quote:

I don't expect a single bad season to be that big a deal. Higher prices on a lot of stuff, sure, that's how it works. We'll just eat more okra and less steak.




What're you trying to do? Kill my investment in Pfizer??
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