| Author | Message | ||
     Badlionsfan |
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| Danger_dave |
I larfed. | ||
| Britchri10 |
I laughed too (& I'm a Packers fan...) Chris C | ||
| Gunut75 |
I'm a Bears fan and I laughed too, but it was atrocious. I actually felt bad for the Packer fans that I know. You got robbed!  | ||
| Reepicheep |
OK, I really don't care about football in general, much less the Packers. But I'm in the business of making and enforcing rules, so I find these kinds of situations really interesting. It looked to me like it was what the NFL press statement said today... there was offensive pass interference that should have been flagged and ended the game. Fair enough, that was a bad call, but isn't that a call you won't get on a hail mary on 8 out of 10 plays anyway? The call on the catch was right, if both players gain control, and maintain control until the play is down, its ruled in favor of the offense team. So that was actually the right call. I really don't care about the game, I'd just like to understand what people think was so wrong. They missed the offensive pass interference, but I bet the regular refs would not have called it either. The defense has the burden of making it really clear it isn't a touchdown. When in doubt, the call usually goes for the offensive. | ||
| Mr_grumpy |
Well as I saw it, he was caught by the wicket-keeper while offside! | ||
| Buellinachinashop |
Reep, Tate never gained control. Thus the problem. All he did was put an arm over it AFTER Jennings took control(Both hands, ball cradled to chest and both feet in bounds). I don't think Tate ever had a hand on it, much less two to actually take control of it. By the time he makes an attempt to take the ball from Jennings, Jennings already gained control of it. | ||
| Boltrider |
No way, Jennings had that ball to his chest. The MNF crew consulted a retired 27-year NFL official on the air after it happened, and he explained that when one player has the ball pinned to his chest, and the other merely has one arm/hand on the ball, you give possession to the guy who had it pinned to the chest, which in that case was Green Bay Packer M.D. Jennings. The simultaneous ruling was just plain wrong, and when you have one official signaling a touchdown while the other signals a touchback (via interception), then there's obvious confusion. The press release was predictable. That was spin by the NFL because they don't want to admit they're wrong on the issue of using second-rate officials. It wouldn't surprise me if Jerry Jones proof read it before release. The Packers got totally jobbed on that one. | ||
| Buellinachinashop |
The one thing I didn't see was the Referee. Where was he when the two officials were negating each other? Why wasn't a conference called between everybody to ensure they were all on the same page? The truth of the matter was in Tate's interview after the game. All he said was that he kept fighting for the ball (along with blatantly lying about the push off). If you have to keep fighting for it, you didn't have it. Goodell's silence is golden here. Send the Minion out to fend off the wolves. | ||
| Boltrider |
Indeed, they are worse than I thought. Apparently last night's crew (all or part, I'm not sure) used to work the Pac 10 but they were let go because they couldn't cut it. Crazy to think they might be the NFL's best replacement crew, being it was a Monday night game and more were watching. There's also other replacements from D-III college/NAIA small schools. That's too much of a jump to not expect bad things to happen. (Message edited by boltrider on September 25, 2012) | ||
| Buellinachinashop |
I also heard that some of these Refs were cut by the Lingerie League. | ||
| Britchri10 |
I don't care where the ref's are from. If you have to rely on one contentious call to win or lose you the game you haven't done enough to win it! Play hard, play fair, play to win & make sure that the Ref/umpire cannot take the result away from you. The Packers should have been out of sight if they wanted to record an away win. It's only sports! Chris C | ||
| Tbolt98 |
Chris, that is true but the fact is that it was not one contentious call... the whole game like most of the season so far was a disgrace when it comes to officiating! | ||
| 99savage |
Badlionsfan Really funny - Wish you had chosen a different word but still funny Oh well a Lions fan needs all the breaks available. | ||
| Reepicheep |
Thanks for the detailed explanation! | ||
| Cyclonedon |
It's only a football game. No lost of life or limbs occurred because of one call so I say we just move on. I didn't watch the game and most likely won't watch the next game either! | ||
| Two_seasons |
Our son read somewhere on the internet that Helen Keller has now applied for an NFL ref job  | ||
| Brumbear |
aahhh the other refs aint so good either they cost a few teams games in recent years if I remember correctly. Either way the NFL could fix it in a minute but why should they we keep filling there coffers either way. | ||
| Johnnymceldoo |
They need to get rid of football entirely. Its too dangerous and many players have life altering injuries. You also have the role model factor as young men and boys see big football players acting violent on the field trying to hurt one another to gain land and points. Why can't the two teams share the land and every player is allotted an equal and fair number of points? | ||
| Ulyranger |
There has been many, many horribly officiated games the first three weeks of the season, unfortunately for the Pack they got robbed at the end of the game this time. I do find it amusing that folks that don't watch, or even care for NFL football post an opinion about that which they don't care about......no problem with it....just amusing is all. And no, it most certainly is not JUST a game......it's a multi-billion dollar business and without integrity it's worth is diminished, at least potentially. Care, or don't care, but for the long term health of the league they need to get this deal done and send these replacements Packing........ | ||
| Buellinachinashop |
"They need to get rid of football entirely. Its too dangerous and many players have life altering injuries." You posted this on website that discusses arguably the most dangerous, life altering, thing you can possibly do? | ||
| Cataract2 |
Buellina, I think that was a tongue in cheek moment that Johnny wrote. | ||
| Buellinachinashop |
I looked for an Emocon, but failed to see one. | ||
| Badlionsfan |
99savage Posted on Tuesday, September 25, 2012 - 08:11 pm: Badlionsfan Really funny - Wish you had chosen a different word but still funny Oh well a Lions fan needs all the breaks available. What word? Scabs? I'm not turning this into a union non union debate, it's supposed to be a fun light hearted thread. However, that's what they are by definition. | ||
| Johnnymceldoo |
I can easily argue that the NFL goes against social justice. It targets for players, young mostly minorities, warps their sense of worth by paying them way too much money and money that could go to better use like care for the sick or homeless or alternative energy research. Why should a football player make 10 million a year and a high school teacher or police officer only 5 figures? Its not fair and its a bad example we are setting for young minorities especially. It wreaks of greed and male domination themes. I thought we had evolved as humans? | ||
| Xdigitalx |
I think ALL teams from all contact sports should have to wear exact same uniforms so players are indistingushable from each other.. except for first few seconds of play... maybe like all black except for a small decal on the helmet or shirt. Refs would be flourescent green or orange. yea yea...i know... it's wacked. nevermind. | ||
| Bads1 |
Remember it went to review. The NFL and not the part timers made the last call. So all in all everyone screwed the pooch on that one. | ||
| Crackhead |
Football players are paid that much because that is their worth to the owner. People willing pay lots of $ to see football. Most people are not willing to see their taxes go up high enough to pay public servants decent 5 figure income, let alone 6 figure incomes. | ||
| Danger_dave |
I would like it to still be 'just sport' too - a euphemism for 'unimportant' and a means to build character in our youth and fitness overall. Amateur sport still is I guess. And yeah the Pro's are still unimportant in the context of the 'big picture' - life, death and all that - but it has also become big business and a source of livelihood to many, not only for players, but the schmuck who carries the chain or the audio cables along the sideline. Even down here where we have 1/10th of the population of the USA - the professional Football TV rights sell for billion dollar deals. It's an entertainment business - with health risks. How long for? in this increasingly litigious world is likely the question. >>More than 2,400 retired players are plaintiffs, looking for the kind of success smokers had against the tobacco companies. The result then was a landmark, $206 billion settlement shared among 46 states. The ex-players are taking on a multibillion-dollar industry that is the most popular sport in the United States.<< - ESPN (Message edited by danger_dave on September 27, 2012) | ||
| Danger_dave |
I see the lockout has ended and regulars back for W4 too. | ||
| F22raptor |
I live in Wisconsin and could car less about theses over-paid, arrogant N.F.L players (Till my son replaces Matthews in 4 yrs!) This photo shows it all!  | ||
| F22raptor |
This is him (#44)..6'2" 230lbs and D-1 state finalist in the 100+200m.  | ||
| Rocketsprink |
Great pic. Wears the same number as my cousin Chris Borland of the Wisconsin Badgers. | ||
| F22raptor |
He has had Big-Ten offers and the Coach at West-Point visited him twice....I am from Wisconsin, we should go ride sometime if your in the area!  |
