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     Reindog |
Here it is. Snarky is the wrong word. Whittle is rightfully angry about the Obama administration. As am I. As EVERY Badwebber should be. He is simply telling the plain truth about Geithner, Holder, Pelosi, Reid, and The One. If we are wrong, speak up. | ||
| Aesquire |
http://pjmedia.com/spengler/2012/09/06/god-the-aft erthought/?singlepage=true http://pjmedia.com/andrewmccarthy/2012/09/06/there s-more-missing-from-the-democratic-platform-than-g od-and-jerusalem/?singlepage=true http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2012/09/07/white-house-j obs-report-further-evidence-that-recovery-is-worki ng/ In all fairness, The President can't really control the economy. Or lower the Oceans. Claiming they can should make you doubt them. No President can actually create jobs, unless it is to sign a bill hiring more people to work for the government. While that seems great, sometimes, and is very useful, sometimes, every person hired By Government must be paid for by the rest of us. Yes, government workers pay taxes, but to even mention that is to remember the great quote.... When told the reason for daylight savings time the Old Indian said, "Only the government would believe that you could cut a foot off the top of a blanket, sew it to the bottom, and have a longer blanket." More to the point.."You cannot legislate the poor into freedom by legislating the wealthy out of freedom. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that my dear friend, is about the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it." -Dr. Adrian Rogers, 1931 OTOH the President CAN ruin the economy & the job market by making energy more expensive, signing bad laws like the ones that led to the housing crisis, and having an ideology that is faulty. Short form. long form. There is a reason that the more volatile energy and food prices are NOT counted in the "inflation" numbers. Not the Numbers they want the press to publish, anyway. | ||
| Fb1 |
"We've heard it all before" - 2012 Democratic National Convention Edition: | ||
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| Oldog |
check this one, more food for thought http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/09/10/obama-an d-democrats-want-to-conquer-america-not-unite-it/ | ||
| Cataract2 |
http://www.wctv.tv/home/headlines/Romney-Says-he-W ont-Repeal-All-of-Obamacare-169084526.html | ||
| Fb1 |
Cataract, it appears that the headline in the "news article" linked in your post...
...is (deliberately?) misleading, based on the verbiage in the first paragraph (emphasis mine}:
The article goes on to put words into Mr. Romney's mouth:
Is this first sentence of this paragraph a direct quote? What EXACTLY did he say? If he said this on Meet the Press, where's the direct quote, or the link to the passage in Meet the Press? Finally: Here, in its entirety, is the entire "news article" you linked. It's a pretty exhausting read; you'll prolly wanna grab a cup of coffee as it's gonna take awhile to digest it all:
Whew! Re: the third paragraph, direct quote, please? Now then, here's an assignment for you. Here's a link to his actual Meet the Press interview. It actually IS quite long, so be prepared. http://www.therightscoop.com/full-mitt-romney-inte rview-on-meet-the-press/ I don't have time to listen to it right now, but I'd appreciate some feedback on Mr. Romney in general, and what he said about Obamacare (the biggest tax increase in the history of the United States, except, Mr. Obama told us it's NOT a tax, except, the Supreme Court told us it IS a tax) specifically. Thanks. PS: I'm curious who owns WCTV.tv and what their political affiliation is; it'd help to better decipher the intent of their "news article"... (Message edited by fb1 on September 10, 2012) | ||
| Fb1 |
A CBS affiliate? Reaches over 6% of American households?!? That's an impressive statistic. Re: CBS, this may be of interest:
So WCTV.tv is part of a VERY wide-reaching CBS affiliate, and the two folks who control the CBS Corporation are among the top donors to Mr. Obama's reelection campaign? Do the math. (Message edited by fb1 on September 10, 2012) | ||
| Aesquire |
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0912/81007.ht ml "Defense firms confirm layoff warnings" The procurement system is pretty darn broken for some things, works well for others. Jet airplanes are very expensive. Jet airplanes that can go very fast are even more expensive, and jet airplanes that can fight, equipped with advanced radar systems, jammers, guns, missiles, bombs, etc. are stupid expensive. You want an invisible jet airplane that can actually survive to USE those missiles? Mega expensive. But I understand you can buy as many as you want. Not from us, from Russia. ( and soon, China ) If the current speculation over the ongoing arms race is correct, we may have a few hundred planes capable of bombing anyone who buys new Russian radar systems and anti aircraft missiles. The rest of our inventory are just targets. Iraq had old Soviet crap, but Iran, Syria, etc... they've been buying the good stuff, and that is a problem. It also takes years to restart actually building a new jet we already have the plans and factory for, and decades ( for us, anyway ) to test fly a new one. Even the most advanced plane in the world, the F-22 has issues, is no longer being made, and we only had 187 working ones, last year. That number will only go down, and it already has..... The bumper sticker is finally true. The Airforce Needs to have a bake sale...... | ||
| Sifo |
Kind of a funny/disturbing IMO rant from a BO supporter. It prompted this interview to let her calmly present her views. Not exactly the best thought out set of views I've ever heard. She does seem to fit with may progressives that I've had a chance to have a dialog with. I think it's why they so often avoid dialog. Enjoy... | ||
| Aesquire |
I bet you that you could find video of an idiot in a Romney shirt. Just saying. OTOH This nice lady listens to CNN, believes Bill Clinton, and wants you to pay for her kids to go to college, so they won't ask her for the money.... Yep, that's a progressive. The Abortion bit, well, I'm pretty certain that R&R and I don't agree on everything, but I'm going to vote for them because that's how you get rid of Barry. I even agree with Barry on some stuff. From day to day I may not be able to tell you what those areas of agreement are, not because I change my mind a lot, but because he does. Or more precisely, what he says he believes on Monday, or in 2009, has nothing to do with what he does on Tuesday, or 2012. What he does in 2013 may be completely different. Now, you can change my mind with reasoned argument. You seem to be able to change Barry's mind with donations. That may be unfair of me, since no one offers me donations. Barry's way surely pays more. | ||
| Sifo |
I bet you that you could find video of an idiot in a Romney shirt. Just saying. I don't doubt that they are out there. To me though, she kind of typifies progressives (with the exception of engaging in dialog) in that they seem to tie themselves up in twisted tangles of logic and reason. Most seem to have learned not to engage in the dialog that demonstrates this. There are numerous examples of progressives around here that throw their opinion out, then refuse to have any dialog about their beliefs. I always find this frustrating, but many times when progressives have opened up, this sort of twisted logic quickly shows itself. This is quite a contrast to the conservatives around here, isn't it? | ||
| Fb1 |
It isn't fair to showcase one person, regardless of the side of the aisle they're on, and paint the entire party with that brush. With all due respect, IMO these videos probably shouldn't have been posted-up, particularly on September 11th. I mean no offense, just offering up my opinion. You know where I stand in regards to our president and his challenger. That said, these videos accomplish nothing positive, IMO. Best, Ferris | ||
| Aesquire |
When religion rears it's ugly head, logic goes bye bye, ( not a conservative thing, a religious one ) but I agree that "conservatives" tend to have logical arguments, sometimes they are wrong, but that's when a rational person changes his mind. ( when the logical argument is disproved ) Progressivism IS a religion. So I don't expect logic. ( sometimes you DO get some, but it seems darn rare, then again, I'm biased. ) Unfortunately most anti-religion arguments I can find on youtube are the "god does not exist" type. the anti-progresive-religion arguments all use logic. Or simple facts. Like recounting the millions murdered by people using that faith to manipulate people and gain power. Ukrainian Kulaks, Vietnamese village school teachers, Cambodian college teachers, Chinese students, a few hundred more Chinese.... Ooops! I meant a few hundred million more Chinese...... | ||
| Cityxslicker |
There are a couple of provisions in the HealthCare bill that make sense. Like prosecuting fraud - quickly, publicly, and to the detriment of those involved. The manner in which they do it is dunder-headed. Pay and pursue needs to be ditched. It is a leaking sieve and anyone in the business knows it. Pend and deny is much more effective for routing out fraud, waste, abuse and graft. Plus a damn better job of certifying who is an authorized vendor is in order. As it stands - any idiot with a TIN and a Modem is able to bilk the HCPCs, RVRBs, DMEs nearly at cart blanche The other portion I like is that 'Illegals' are excluded from gaining care and benefits..... unfortunately - the guy in office just granted them amnesty... so they are no longer 'illegal' - again ; dunderheaded . | ||
| Aesquire |
It isn't fair to showcase one person, regardless of the side of the aisle they're on, and paint the entire party with that brush.   As to day appropriate? Perhaps. The reason for my post above the vids is the reduction in defense spending that takes place after each conflict, is taking place while multiple conflicts are ongoing. It bites us in the butt each time, after each little war, to cheap out and reduce our capacity.... Happens time and again, and there's a good political reason for it, "peace dividends" allow Congress to spend just as much on pet projects while claiming to be cutting... A good political thing, but bad for the nation, overall. Plus you have the Clintonesque bait and switch where you claim to cut government, while cutting defense, and other programs that don't seem to affect your base. ( they do, it's just not as obvious to cut jet airplanes as it is to cut social giveaway programs. At least to people dependent on handouts.) Doing both the bait and switch, AND the post war defense cuts, while the war is still on? a recipe, for disaster. Perhaps Obama's "understanding" with Putin gives him the "flexibility" to make such cuts if we allow the Russian Empire to take what it wants. Your response to that depends on if you believe Obama's "Dreams From My Father", and the idea that Obama was raised with leftist anticolonial ideology, where the U.S. is a colonial power to be reduced to equality with Botswana. If you buy that interpretation of the Prez's psyche & motivation, he'a doing great! | ||
| Sifo |
It isn't fair to showcase one person, regardless of the side of the aisle they're on, and paint the entire party with that brush. I'll point out a couple of areas where I didn't do what you said. First off, I purposely left party out of it. I pointed to progressives. The distinction may be getting difficult to see these days, but there is a distinction. Secondly, I wasn't trying to paint the entire group with the brush of a single person. I simply used her as the example of what happens when you can actually get them to answer direct questions. The point being made is that most of them have learned to just not engage in discussion. There are many examples of that with progressives on BadWeb. Just a couple of days ago someone (not sure if it was on this thread or the Romney thread) asked if they were reading the thread asking for input. The result was the normal hit and run tactic. Avoid any dialog that will expose the poorly thought out foundation of their positions. The broad brush I intended to use was the brush of the actions that they consistently demonstrate as a group. If this was an unfair characterization, I don't think the question of "are they reading this" along with the response that it generated would have ever happened. I welcome progressives to demonstrate that my characterization of them is wrong. Please come forward and participate in the dialog of reason. I really want to learn how they come to their conclusions. Without dialog, the greatest of ideas will never become reality, will they? | ||
| Fb1 |
Aesquire, I should have worded my post to Sifo better. Hopefully I still got my point across, in a tactful, concise, polite manner. Perhaps Obama's "understanding" with Putin gives him the "flexibility" to make such cuts if we allow the Russian Empire to take what it wants. What do you make of the reports that a Russian sub patrolled our southern coastline for two months recently? I wonder if that is part of the flexibility we promised the KGB when we thought no one was listening... 9/11/2012 was a tough day in the Middle East for American interests, eh? First thing we did? We bowed at the waist and apologized to the good folks who stormed our embassies, tore up our flag, and killed our Ambassador to Libya and three other Americans. Unbelievable, but par for the course for this administration. Think The Chosen One (TCO) will find the time in his busy schedule to meet with Bibi next week? Bibi says he'd even come to the White House to make it easier on TCO. I note that TCO has time to do Letterman again next week. I assume he'll also have the time to get in at least a couple rounds of golf, shoot some hoops, and maybe do another fascinating in-depth interview on Gimp with a Limp. Say, has he appeared on The View lately?? Back to Bibi, regarding Iran: Does he wait until after the election, hoping his friend Romney wins and thus knowing America will, indeed, provide military support? Does he act BEFORE the election, hoping to paint TCO into a political corner and thus forcing TCO to provide military support? TCO says he's got Israel's back. I have serious doubts. I think TCO cares only about TCO. I still find this fascinating, despite the fact that it has already disappeared from the mainstream "news" cycle. A half a million hits and counting: Question: Did the Democrats vote down God, or Israel, or both? Inquiring minds want to know. (Message edited by fb1 on September 12, 2012) | ||
| Fb1 |
I'll point out a couple of areas where I didn't do what you said. First off, I purposely left party out of it. Sifo, we posted at the exact same time again.  We're on the same side, but I'll point out that you opened your volley with Kind of a funny/disturbing IMO rant from a BO supporter. I'm pretty sure which political party you were talking about. No offense meant; I believe we're both trying to accomplish the same goals, I just wouldn't have used your tactic, is all. Thanks amigo, FB | ||
| Cityxslicker |
Looks like he just got his 'wag the dog' Right on time. Though I had thought it would have been Syria - not Lybia and Egypt. The shell game continues. RIP - Ambassador and Fallen Staff of American Embassy in Lybia | ||
| Reindog |
Words fail me with the trajectory that Obama is hurtling us all towards. One of his first acts as President was to give an American Apology speech in Cairo. You all know the litany of his subsequent failures whether it be the snubbing of Israel, abandonment of Hosni Mubarek in full support of the so-called "Arab Spring", lack of support of the Iranian uprising, illegal military action in Libya, or APOLOGIZING yesterday for the actions of our new terrorist "allies" (on 9/11 of all days). I have to wonder exactly what Barack Hussein Obama learned in his youth while living in Indonesia. "2016: Obama's America" attempts to answer this so you should go see it. So the question has now become when are YOU going to wake up? Will it be when nuclear weapons rain down on Tel Aviv? | ||
| Sifo |
Sifo, we posted at the exact same time again. Funny how that happens, even the next morning. Yes, I do believe we are on the same page. I did try to point out that I believe this to be a "progressive" thing. That is a subset of BO supporters, or liberals, or Democrats. They do seem to be in the majority of all three categories though. I just wanted to make it clear that I'm not painting a group to be like her because she and that group support BO. I paint them the same because I see similar reasoning between them. I actually have more respect for her, given that she was willing to expose her reasoning, though I bet in the future she may not be as willing to do so. That is what I find to be typical of progressives, both on BW and in the flesh. Looks like he just got his 'wag the dog' Right on time. Though I had thought it would have been Syria - not Lybia and Egypt. Egypt got here with an uprising that was openly supported by BO, while others were stepping back saying there's too much possibility of things going bad. Lybia was the direct doing of BO. He made it happen, with the same warnings that this is likely to turn out bad. He may try to spin this into a wag the dog type of crisis, but it should be noted that the crisis is a product of his view and actions. | ||
| Fb1 |
Looks like he just got his 'wag the dog' Right on time. Though I had thought it would have been Syria - not Lybia and Egypt. City, I was thinking the same thing last night as I watched this unfold online. Seems the October Surprise is coming early this year, perhaps an indication of how badly Obama is really doing in terms of American public opinion? I still see Syria coming into the mix at some point, and Israel vs. Iran will factor in, too, I believe. The current pres has demonstrated his true loyalties and allegiances many times throughout his term. It will be interesting to see how he plays his hand from here on out. Pay close attention, America... | ||
| Fb1 |
I actually have more respect for her, given that she was willing to expose her reasoning... Concur. Props to the lady for exercising her rights and strongly voicing her convictions. I may not agree with her stance or reasoning, but I commend her for having the guts and gumption to state her case. Best, FB | ||
| Electraglider_1997 |
If liberals truly hated America they'd prove it by voting Republican. | ||
| Moxnix |
Hey, Joe Biden! Have another drink, you complete boob! Don't worry Barry O. It was written, per your faith. | ||
| Moxnix |
http://www.conservativerefocus.com/blog5.php/2012/ 09/12/according-to-former-dean-of-university-of-ch icago-law-school-obama-never-a-constitutional-law- professor | ||
| Moxnix |
http://www.wnd.com/2012/09/claim-obama-hid-gay-lif e-to-become-president/ | ||
| Reindog |
The world is stumbling closer to the precipace and Obama can't find time in his schedule to meet with Netanyahu. Interestingly, Obama can find time to campaign and go on Letterman while Netanyahu is in town. This would be comical if the stakes weren't so serious. Yeah, I think little Barry learned a lot of lessons while living in Indonesia or being surrounded by Communist mentors in Hawaii. Go see "2016: Obama's America" to better understand what is going on behind the scenes in the White House. http://www.examiner.com/article/obama-chooses-lett erman-over-netanyahu-1 |
