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Rick_a
Posted on Sunday, August 12, 2018 - 07:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The giant meteor that kills us all is also a minor concern. We're statistically well overdue.
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Aesquire
Posted on Sunday, August 12, 2018 - 04:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yep, and Bruce Willis is getting old. : )

People don't get that meteor strike is not a probable thing, it's a certainty. Physics.

We don't have all the rocks big enough to be a danger located and tracked. We don't have the math to predict the movement for long periods. Jupiter's gravity constantly stirs the pot and sends asteroids into new orbits and comets plunging towards the Sun.

It's not a static Universe. Stuff moves, shifts, is deflected, and mostly isn't all that shiny or visible. The recent bolide in Russia could have exploded over Boston. No one saw it coming, and the Sky Watch folk are volunteers with very little funding, relying on amateur astronomers to notify them of objects.
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Zac4mac
Posted on Sunday, August 12, 2018 - 10:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Still waiting for the poles to shift.
Way overdue.
Overnight or over a decade...or century.

What will it do to Van Allen?

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Aesquire
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It's so bad, it's good. Loved it.
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Aesquire
Posted on Tuesday, August 14, 2018 - 09:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-605 4643/Brightest-Perseids-Meteor-Shower-revealed-stu nning-new-photos.html
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Aesquire
Posted on Tuesday, August 14, 2018 - 09:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2018/08/utili ty_blaming_climate_change_not_its_fallen_power_lin es_for_california_wildfires.html

Wow.

I didn't know Climate Change made a company save money by cutting needed maintenance and thus killing nearly fifty people.

I would have pegged that on the dirty running dog capitalist greed merchants.

Or government subsidies & bad forest management laws, encouraging cost cutting & providing a tinder box for old wiring.

Of course, this is preemptively striking before the suits and charges of manslaughter reach the public eye. Without Climate Change, I have no doubt other equally realistic excuses would have been used. Like Fairies being careless with vapes they've stolen from hipster hikers. Or Aliens trying to use cow flatulence for booster stages.
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Aesquire
Posted on Tuesday, August 14, 2018 - 09:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://scibabe.com/2018/06/17/rawmilk/

The State of Pennsylvania cracked down on Amish farmers and, I could be wrong on this!, Shut down dairies that didn't homogenize the milk, even though it was Pasteurized.

The chocolate full fat unhomogenized milk from the now closed dairy near Butler PA was prized by the folk at the nearby camp ground, who looked forward to it each year. I remember reading the bottle, and "Pasteurized" was on there. It would separate if left in the cooler. Made awesome ice cream in an old fashioned hand cranked Johnson machine with ice & salt on hundred degree days. ( invited important guests for breakfast one day and served them pancakes, bananas Foster , & fresh ice cream..... In a medieval camp. ) ( I camp with talented people, although I did share in cranking out the ice cream )

Gone.... Victim of religious prejudice or lobbyists from Big Dairy.

But although it had a super short shelf life, it was safe, I was camp medic, and didn't want to deal with THAT kind of problem. Treating tent stake wounds on feet & heat stroke was enough.
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Ducbsa
Posted on Wednesday, August 15, 2018 - 06:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yeah, but we can get high!

https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Garbage-from-W ashington-state-s-booming-pot-13155835.php
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Rick_a
Posted on Wednesday, August 15, 2018 - 09:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Central to southern California is a big tinder box. Fires happen...and if not handled promptly will cover large swaths of land quickly.

I've come to the conclusion that "liberals," as they are known today, ruin literally everything. It at least makes for good entertainment and real comedy.
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Aesquire
Posted on Wednesday, August 15, 2018 - 10:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

California law forbids you to clear brush. Dead trees, over growth of fast drying tumbleweed type plants, mesquite, all accumulate and make the fires worse each year.

It's not Global Warming, it's Busybody attitudes. The State as Religion and the Politicians as High Priests.

Bad enough If the busybody actually has a clue what they interfere with. Almost all Lawyers, they layer law upon law until no one is innocent.

It sounds past insane, but today, every adult is breaking the law, State or Federal. If a Persecuter wants to screw you, you are guilty. Tax code, ecology codes, somewhere, when every possible action or inaction is illegal, everyone is subject to the whims of the Very Criminal Justice System.

Did you record how much Round-up you used last year? Own a forbidden plant? Cross State lines with prescription medications? Live in New York after the Governor told those who did not agree with everything he holds dear, to leave?

Not only don't you know what you are guilty of, you aren't supposed to.

Golly dang, I wish that was paranoia.

Ask a guy who had his car stolen by police because they said they smelled pot, so used War on Drugs rules to confiscate the dealer's profits in the form of the easiest sold item. And you have to use THEM and prove your innocence, of a crime you were never charged with. They steal houses, too. Oddly, always from people too poor to fight back.

Now put lawyers in charge of forest management, people die.

More will die next year. The fires will be bigger and more destructive.

Bet you a Bison steak dinner.
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Airbozo
Posted on Wednesday, August 15, 2018 - 11:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"California law forbids you to clear brush. Dead trees, over growth of fast drying tumbleweed type plants, mesquite, all accumulate and make the fires worse each year."

I've had several conversations with our local Fire Chief over the last ten years or so and he assures me this is total hogwash when it comes to inhabited areas. In fact California state law specifically requires you to clear the brush and dead trees 100 feet from your house and they are able to issue citations for NOT doing so (applicable to fire prone areas). I am the Road Association President and I do walkthrough's with our local firefighters (all volunteer department) once a year to make sure our community is clear of any brush and debris that might cause or fuel a fire.

Up in Tahoe (the California side), the fire department routinely perform brush removal and cleanup. You can see them working on the side of the road most of the year.

Most of the law people are talking about refers to protected environments where endangered species live. If anyone has issues getting permits to perform cleanups, all they have to do is contact their local fire department because they are the final authority when it comes to fire dangers (in almost all cases). This is what I have been told by the fire chief, fish and game, and the county inspectors. There are exceptions and some people do get tied up in the bureaucracy when all they have to do is get the fire department involved.
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Airbozo
Posted on Wednesday, August 15, 2018 - 11:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

...as a side note,

On the radio this morning, they were interviewing a local resident of Lake County (where the big fires have burned for the last several years) and he said that every year for the last 7 years they have had to evacuate due to fires and by his and his neighbors estimate, they have 3 more years before enough of the area is burned and they will be safe from fires for a long time.

He was kind of amused by it as he sat in the shelter trying to figure out where to go next.
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Aesquire
Posted on Wednesday, August 15, 2018 - 12:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'll take your word for it in "inhabited areas". It's been a few years since I was there, and even longer when I was flying & camping in the White & Inyo mountains, where they told me not to touch any brush under pain of whatever.

This was from a Park Ranger who was ( properly ) bothered by us drinking hot cocoa and foil pack meals in a "don't even think about campfires" area. I showed him my exhaust manifold wire racks for meals & boiling water in old GI canteens I built into my van. Load up dinner, & drive to your sleeping spot. Hot meals.

"Leave Nothing but footprints" takes on new meaning when you are soaring down the valley. A few back there, a few down here, fleeting shadows between.
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Aesquire
Posted on Thursday, August 16, 2018 - 07:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/08/1 5/delingpole-hothouse-earth-the-alarmists-latest-e xcuse-for-eco-fascist-global-governance/

Next time a Greenie declares to you we need to go on a wartime footing to combat the Climate, ask him if he wants to give Donald Trump Absolute Power?

Or just himself?
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Sifo
Posted on Thursday, August 16, 2018 - 01:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My understanding, which may be incomplete, is that the problem doesn't lie so much in the "inhabited" areas, where brush and dead trees get maintained. The problem lies in the wilderness areas, where it's become taboo to mess with "nature", even the dead and dying brush and trees. Unless of course, we are messing with nature by putting out forest fires. Eventually, you wind up with large amounts of unburned fuel lying on the forest floor. Now when that gets sparked off, you have a real problem and it rages out of control with such fury that it isn't contained by the fire breaks, etc. Suddenly the protections built into the inhabited areas are not as effective as they would be with a less violent forest fire. Well, not really suddenly. It's taken decades of forest management to get it like this.
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Aesquire
Posted on Thursday, August 16, 2018 - 01:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That's my understanding too.

Seasonal winds, dry, hot, off the deserts to the East of the LA area, dry the plants & set up the fires. This is the ecosystem since Terror Birds ate many of the few humans wandering into the region. Several species of plants use the fires to reproduce.

For humans, big cities are as artificial an environment as a space station. Without extensive infrastructure to hold, & deliver water, the population is unsustainable. Unfortunately, the planned water works stopped being built soon after the rich folk in places like San Francisco got their systems in place, so every extra body that moves there overloads the water works. But the Rich, who already have, resist spending to provide for all. Greed, Greenies, and short sighted self interest, are the Enemies of progress.

California needs many more reservoirs, more pipes & canals, and, sooner than later, nuclear desalination plants to feed the coastal cities.

Artificial environments are highly vulnerable to deliberate attack. A few tons of explosives, properly placed, would render LA area water works useless. ( by cutting the supply far from civilization )

Cold heartedly, that would only speed up the rolling disaster being created by California State government, but the possibilities for mass destruction and death tolls has to be intriguing some really evil folk.
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Airbozo
Posted on Thursday, August 16, 2018 - 06:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sifo,

Yes you are correct. But the difference between inhabited areas and forest is a mere 100 feet. Some of the fires raging in NorCal are near inhabited areas and spread fast because it is dry and some forested areas are kept "natural" to protect the wildlife that use the dead and dying brush for shelter or the thought that there should be natural carbon transfer due to rotting. Some people forget that the transfer happens faster when it burns and from my limited understanding dumps the carbon where we don't want it.

So the end result is burned forests, houses, people and the very critters the huggers were trying to save.

Brilliant!

On a side note, the Lake county fire (over 1000 homes destroyed and at least 8 people dead) was started by sparks thrown up from a flat tire on a trailer being towed by an elderly couple.

They will be getting a bill from Cal Fire.

(Message edited by airbozo on August 16, 2018)
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Aesquire
Posted on Friday, August 17, 2018 - 10:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://www.popularmechanics.com/science/a22749827 /spaghetti-physics-richard-feynman/?src=nl&mag=pop &list=nl_pnl_news&date=081718
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Aesquire
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https://www.popularmechanics.com/flight/a22714456/ x-59-supersonic-test-pilot-jim-less/?src=nl&mag=po p&list=nl_pnl_news&date=081718

The Long nose concept has been around for a Long time. There was talk of putting modern more powerful engines in the X-3 Stilleto some years back, to test this idea, but the decision was made not to, since the intake & stability technology has moved on since then.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_X-3_Stiletto

Originally a machine meant to test the high thermal loads at supersonic speeds, and stubby trapezoidal wings ( used on the F-104 , and other planes ) the engines of the day just were not up to it. It did give valuable information on roll/yaw coupling, a killer problem as jet fuselages got longer and wings got shorter, which was a serious issue with America's first Supersonic ( in level flight ) fighter.

For a view of how quickly the technology changed, compare the F-100, First flight 1953, with the F8U, 1956, which used the same single engine but was faster, more maneuverable, and seriously stronger. ( to land on an Carrier )

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_F-100 _Super_Sabre

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vought_F-8_Crusader

Which led to one of the greatest planes never purchased, the Crusader III.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vought_XF8U-3_Crusad er_III

The F8U-3 program was canceled with five aircraft built. Three aircraft flew during the test program, and, along with two other airframes, were transferred to NASA for atmospheric testing, as the Crusader III was capable of flying above 95% of the Earth's atmosphere. NASA pilots flying at NAS Patuxent River routinely intercepted and defeated U.S. Navy Phantom IIs in mock dogfights, until complaints from the Navy put an end to the harassment.

The new X-59 also uses technology not very different than the Republic XF-103, which also had a flush cockpit to reduce drag, & a Periscope to look ahead. The XF-103 can be thought of as the practice plane for the Blackbird, as it was a real learning experience in working with Titanium, and the engine turbo jet/ramjet combo idea would be refined, and somewhat improved for the SR-71. It's a bit of a pity they never flew the XF-103, as it would have been the fastest air breathing man carrying thing in the sky at the time, and we might have learned a lot from it. But the limited range and decision to use unmanned guided missiles for bomber intercept instead, put an end to the program. ( plus the Korean war ) Ironically, the guided missile defense system was never followed through on either, in any scale, so the default position of the US government of defending America against Nuclear bombers became, "we're all going to die, and there is nothing we can do about it because we don't want to spend the money".

I Imagine there's a more PC way to say it, but that's basically it.
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