| Author | Message | ||
     Cityxslicker |
nice slammed stance - 64 ? the pics are great - keep them coming ! | ||
| Teeps |
Gschuette, Do you have an alternate engine to go in this project bike, if the current vision does not work out? | ||
| Gschuette |
It will work. There is no alternative! | ||
| Gschuette |
In all seriousness. This motor will work and the finished project will be killer! Got the cross member of the "measurement" cradle tacked enough to feel comfortable with it supporting a little bit of weight.   Now I am going to drill straight down through the pipe and insert some threaded rod. That way I will have lots of adjust ability in my cradle to get that motor sitting in perfect alignment with the sprocket, swingarm, etc. So once its lined up my "pretty" cradle can be started on and measured in confidence for the tightest fit.  Deegan Bend Metal Mulisha Pro Tapers came in today as well. A little busy but once the grips are on, frame is powdercoated, and the plastics polished they will look killer and flow with the bike.  And here are the remnants of the WR450 I picked up. Anything blue in the pic is for sale. Red, white, and yellow things are strictly off limits!  | ||
| Gschuette |
Can't believe I forgot this pic! My friend let me ride his RD400 over to the shop for an inspiration ride. I think I might feign a lack of interest in the project more often if it means I get to ride his killer RD400 more often!  RD400 | ||
| Sleez |
i really want another RD!! | ||
| 86129squids |
RINGADINGDINGDING!!! Hey- I'm still wondering why that Banshee motor doesn't have the YPVS... it's amazing what that little doodad does for the powerband! Oh well- without it means you'll just have to hold on tighter when you "hit the pipe"!  | ||
| Gschuette |
The guy with the RD above and another friend have both owned RZ350s. They said they were great bikes but were finicky little bastards and keeping the YVPS and carbs tuned up and in sync was a hassle. They are both skilled mechanics and not hacks in the least so I trust their input. That's the only reason I can think of Yamaha not using the power valve more. It seems like that coupled with modern EFI direct injection would make two strokes clean enough to pass emissions tests that would have been impossible 15 years ago. Maybe. | ||
| Gschuette |
Finally moved the beloved old Buell over.  Hey what was that in the WR?  Yep, sat the motor in there. I remain optimistic. I think the under engine part of the cradle will have to be more intricate than I initially planned. After looking at it I think the engine needs to be higher than I initially planned. If I snake the cradle up in the case it will give a lot more room for the pipes. The engine does need to be tilted back some from where it sits now, so the head won't be hanging so far out. I really wish this little guy wasn't there.  If it wasn't there the motor would slide back in the chassis by a decent amount.  So I'll just be playing with this alignment for a little while. Starting to get suspicious of the guy shipping my tank. Was supposed to be in on the 11th and all of a sudden a formerly good USPS tracking number is invalid. Not sure what is going on there. Also you can't be in the middle of an automated tracking call with USPS and then hit 0 to speak with an operator. It literally says go to hell, and hangs up on you. | ||
| 6gears |
Looking good so far. What are your plans for exhaust?? That looks like more of a challenge than mounting the engine, LOL. | ||
| Gschuette |
No room fr it anywhere but under the engine, kind of like the RD above. No big doubles for this sumo. | ||
| Hybridmomentspass |
Also you can't be in the middle of an automated tracking call with USPS and then hit 0 to speak with an operator. It literally says go to hell, and hangs up on you." literally says "go to hell" ?? Doesnt seem like something the USPS would do Im liking watching the advancement of the project, very cool! | ||
| Teeps |
Have you fitted the carbs to see how much room is available? Does the kick start lever clear the frame? | ||
| Gschuette |
I can't do it all at once. | ||
| Sifo |
I have little to offer, but I am following this build closely just for "edutainment". Great stuff! | ||
| Teeps |
All aspects of fitting the engine to the frame need to be considered at once... If the kick starter will not swing or the carbs don't fit into the package, then what? Best to find this stuff out early. | ||
| Gschuette |
I just sat the motor near the chassis for the first time last night! Geez! | ||
| Natexlh1000 |
Ever see the "Tul-Aris" bike? They flipped the jugs around 180. Is that even remotely possible with your engine? Just curious. Check out his exhausts! http://www.motor-bike.it/tuning-moto/532-183-cv-pe r-119-kg-motore-2-tempi-da-800cc-e-ciclistica-arti gianale-tularis-800.html | ||
| Teeps |
Gschuette Posted on Wednesday, August 15, 2012 I just sat the motor near the chassis for the first time last night! Geez! Fair enough. I'll just watch from now on... Thanks for taking the time to photo document the project. | ||
| Gschuette |
It's not that I don't appreciate the help. It's just that I never said, ok this is the spot! All other items of consideration be damned, it's getting welded in forever, right here! All the parts haven't even arrived yet but I do have rough measurements of most items, so i have rough ideas of what will go where. What I can't account for and where your point is well taken is things like the rear bolt on the transmission cover sticking out a little further than planned. FWIW I spoke with the guys over at Wicked ATV and ordered a set of their 350-421cc RZ pipes in steel with no mounting brackets. We will see how close those are to being workable into a decent solution. If I mount the motor a touch higher and suck the cradle up real close it should give me a little more room to play with the pipes and have plenty of room for the big expansion chambers. Luckily those pipes were also optimized for the displacement of my stroker motor so that will be a nice touch. If I can massage these into place it will be a HUGE monkey off my back. I also ordered a single outlet Pingel petcock with reserve and a 1 into 2 vacuum fuel pump. They said that is what they recommend for the road racer RZ bikes to fuel consistently through turns. Now if the damn tank would get here I would be in business. Now I am debating stock v. 32mm Mikuni carbs. Everything else on the bike is just a touch overboard so I think I need to go with the 32mm carbs just to keep the theme alive. So I hope you keep posting Teeps, just know that when I say things like I'll keep messing with the alignment really means I am going to go over ever aspect of this bike with a fine tooth comb and make every attempt to consider all possiblities before making a major cut/weld/mount etc. Also a good friend with this bike http://www.returnofthecaferacers.com/2012/02/reade rs-rides-bultaco-tss-race-replica.html and this Triumph http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmeRFzczB1w and a handful of past Supermoto projects is helping out as are my brother the ASE mechanic, and my roomate who is an A&P licensed whirlybird mechanic. So I usually have at least a second set of qualified eyes if not four sets of eyes on the bike helping to consider all options. Please keep posting though. Input is appreciated. | ||
| Gschuette |
Yamaha naming two totally different bikes the WR250 (F and the R/X) is wreaking minor havoc with my plans. Besides the wheels (which I am working on a fix for) the fork guards took three phone calls and two tries of shipping to get X guards and not F guards sent. but they finally came and I put my day glo Yamaha stickers on. Should give you a feel of the color scheme.  With the motor sitting up in my "measurement cradle" I took some measurements and have decided to move in a different direction for fabbing up my cradle. I am going to weld the two pieces of angle to sliding door wheels facing the front of the bike. Then drill a big hole in the 2x2 square tubing and weld a nut in place. Then have a piece of flat bar mounted to the torsion mounts under the motor. That way I can hold bike stationary, move the motor front to back, twist the bolt up and down to adjust the overall height of the motor, and then finally adjust the left to right balance of the motor with the flat bar mounting plate. The reason for this is that I am hoping to use one piece of pipe and continually bend it from the rear lower mount, over the cylinders, and down back to the opposite lower rear mount. At most I want two pieces of tubing that meet up at the bottom of the chassis. This will require a lot of test fitting, bending, and repeat. It just wouldn't be feasible with the intial cradle in place. So now the bike stays in place, the motor is easily adjusted, and I still have plenty of access to the bottom and sides of the motor to bend the cradle.  In other shop news, my brother and I picked up an IRS pan for his beetle. We will start cleaning it up and building the 2.0L bus motor he has and plumbing up a low boost turbocharger for it. Then once the pan/motor is done we will take his body, paint it and put it on the new chassis to make one hell of a little roadracer.  And I customized the shit out of the Zuma rear fender.  | ||
| Tq_freak |
This thing is going to be killer! watching intently quick question. is that a Horrible(Harbor) Freight lift table? how do you like it? | ||
| Gschuette |
Yes, the chock is rubbish but everything else works well so far. I'm not raising and lowering it much though so the crapness may not be fully showing through. When I get the welder set up I'll change the chock and we will be good to go. No complaints for the price if you use the coupon. | ||
| Tq_freak |
I have the coupon and have been waiting to pull the trigger on it. Was on the fence with building my own but I cant get the material for what I can get the finished lift for with the coupon. I just figure like everything Horrible freight, its a "Kit", I know going into it that at some point I am going to have to screw with it and change it. | ||
| Svh |
I too have been on the fence about buying one. Good to see one in use and that the mechanism works well enough. The chock is changeable as you said. May have to run over to HF and pick one up finally for my stator replacement job coming up. Still can't get over how sick those wheels are. Looking good | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
Where does one find this coupon? | ||
| Tq_freak |
FT - in most motorcycle oriented mags, there will be a harbor freight group of coupons and you need to keep your eye out for the one for the lift table, it makes it like 50% off. I might have an extra one, I'll try and look. | ||
| Brinnutz |
Jeremy, they invented this wonderful thing called...wait for it... . . . . . . . Google. You may have heard of it? If not, then google it. | ||
| Svh |
This months SportRider that is sitting next to me has it in it. $299.99 Unfortunately they stopped allowing you to combine coupons. I bought my toolbox that way and saved 20% off they coupon price. | ||
| Gschuette |
http://www.ebay.com/itm/HARBOR-FREIGHT-COUPON-Exp- 11-3-MOTORCYCLE-ATV-LIFT-TABLE-STAND-1000-lb-299-/ 190711577121?pt=US_Coupons&hash=item2c674bba21 |
