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Brijasher
| | Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 - 02:36 pm: | 
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Naw, you didn't, and keep going for it.
We're just trying to get each other's goat now. Like this:
Static typing is for losers! Dynamic typing all the way!
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Cataract2
| | Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 - 02:42 pm: |
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Static typing is for losers! Dynamic typing all the way!
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Cataract2
| | Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 - 02:43 pm: |
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As for the calc. I'm waiting on my TI-89 Titanium to arrive. Should be here Friday. Will help me with calc 2 a lot as it's been a long time since calc 1. |
Brijasher
| | Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 - 02:45 pm: |
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I'll let the embedded C programmers answer that one.
After all, they should only need a couple extra bytes to do it, not much space at all.
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Brijasher
| | Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 - 02:49 pm: |
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TI? Oooh, there's another battle we could start!
TI's standard entry for readability
vs
HP's RPN entry for efficiency
That'll drag the engineers in too!
And for the record, I still use my HP 48GX. |
Reindog
| | Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 - 02:55 pm: |
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quote:and on intel machines it's stored 0x27 0x04.
Isn't it stored 0x27 0x04 0x0 0x0 on 32-bit machines?
The Endian battles can be much worse than any political or religious debate on QuickBoard. Much worse. |
Reepicheep
| | Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 - 03:08 pm: |
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RPN and Emacs. Anything else is for weak minds.
I like Perl on "big machines", and appreciate the dynamic types. I like C on the little machines, and appreciate the rigid typing. I'm not even a huge fan of floating point on the embedded programming, too much wasted space and cycle consumption is to unpredictable so I can't make assumptions about timing. |
Argentcorvid
| | Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 - 03:14 pm: |
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quote:Isn't it stored 0x27 0x04 0x0 0x0 on 32-bit machines?
The Endian battles can be much worse than any political or religious debate on QuickBoard. Much worse.
yep, and yep. Little endian makes sense, if you're a computer.
BTW, Duck Typing is obviously the best, you guys! |
Cataract2
| | Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 - 03:14 pm: |
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Brij, I know all to well how the battles go when it comes to TI vs others. I'm going with what I know in this case and the fact that the instructors like them. Seems the entire Engineering dept likes them as well. So, go with what others have as it will help should I need help. Besides, I've used TI's my entire education life and I'm comfortable with them. I did almost get the TI-Nspire, but decided I would stick with the one I remember. Also there's the fact that both do the the same thing for the most part. |
Reindog
| | Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 - 03:21 pm: |
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gvim vs xemacs arguments get downright rude at my workplace. Both are good in different ways. |
Brijasher
| | Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 - 03:28 pm: |
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Cata,
When you start learning about parse trees, you will see why there used to be a serious debate about the two calculator entry styles.
Old engineers will show you how much faster RPN is compared to the standard entry method when working hundreds of equations for designs. Just doesn't matter much anymore with the advent of MathLab, Mathematica, et al.
And since the others didn't answer it, static typing is when a programming language insists that each variable hold only one kind of data: numbers, letters, etc. Dynamic typing languages just figure it out on the fly. Both have pros and cons with huge implications to final program design. |
Brijasher
| | Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 - 03:32 pm: |
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vi vs emacs? Don't start those wars any more — too easy to be any fun.
Yeah, I start fires for the entertainment value. =D |
Cataract2
| | Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 - 03:46 pm: |
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Windows vs Linux? Guess that debate would depend on the crowd. |
Jaimec
| | Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 - 03:46 pm: |
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I'm a dinosaur... started in System/360, now up to zSeries... but it is still =X'0427' or =B'0000010000100111'
PS: And in answer to an earlier posting: Yes, I DO know about the IBM "Yellow Card."
(Message edited by jaimec on August 23, 2012) |
Reepicheep
| | Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 - 04:09 pm: |
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Windows vs Linux? No war there. Windows runs just fine under Linux, just make sure it's in a virtual machine so when it wets the bed you can clean up easily. 
(Actually, these days, Windows 7 is getting to be a pretty nice OS, provided you put Cygwin on it). |
Reepicheep
| | Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 - 04:10 pm: |
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(When I worked in the computer lab at UC, I was there the day we sold the card punch machine to Earl's scrap hauling for $50. I knew I should have kept the reciept.) |
Cataract2
| | Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 - 04:23 pm: |
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Reep, one of these days I'll get around to getting virtual machine up and running on my linux distro. One of these days. Windows 7 does seem to be ok though, still, my linux setup only uses 300MB of ram vs 1GB for windows.
(Message edited by cataract2 on August 23, 2012) |
Aesquire
| | Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 - 07:03 pm: |
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http://xkcd.com/378/ |
Reepicheep
| | Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 - 10:16 pm: |
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I love xkcd. |
Bluzm2
| | Posted on Friday, August 24, 2012 - 11:07 am: |
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Sifo, I still have my "Yellow Card" it's really a little booklet though.. Used to be a card in the older versions.. |
Mr_grumpy
| | Posted on Friday, August 24, 2012 - 11:27 am: |
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I have no ****ing idea what any of you are on about, I managed to follow the first few posts as it was a fairly simple mathematical problem.
I've tried to keep up since but my brain has stalled & is starting to run out of my ears. |
Argentcorvid
| | Posted on Friday, August 24, 2012 - 02:29 pm: |
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Endian-ness is referring to whether the computer stores the "big end" or the "little end" of a number first. little endian is more convenient for computer arithmetic, but big endian can be useful to make approximations and reads the same as a person would write a number.
the different "typing" is a kind of error checking used in programming.
vi / EMACS are two text-editors that have lots of functionality (think MS Word) but console text only. they have two very different methods of user interface.
standard vs. RPN calculators: read about that here. RPN allows you to work from the most-inside set of parentheses first when using a calculator. |
Sifo
| | Posted on Friday, August 24, 2012 - 08:21 pm: |
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Sifo, I still have my "Yellow Card" it's really a little booklet though.. Used to be a card in the older versions..
Yeah, I've got both laying around somewhere. Started with the yellow card for the 360 machines. Later I got the blue booklet version that had a number of new pages for the 370 machines.
Now it's all fond memories. I got really burnt out after about 25 years. |
Danger_dave
| | Posted on Friday, August 24, 2012 - 11:13 pm: |
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>> my brain has stalled & is starting to run out of my ears.<<
At least it won't make a mess.
:-P |
Danger_dave
| | Posted on Saturday, August 25, 2012 - 02:22 am: |
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2-0 I believe. :-) |
Gregtonn
| | Posted on Saturday, August 25, 2012 - 02:47 am: |
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"I'm a dinosaur..."
Us dinosaurs remember when you used the minimum code to do what was needed.
Hard to insert a virus into that.
G |
Sifo
| | Posted on Saturday, August 25, 2012 - 07:53 am: |
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Us dinosaurs remember when you used the minimum code to do what was needed.
Hard to insert a virus into that.
Created lots of maintenance headaches too.
I wound up doing a lot of performance tuning. That was a niche I really enjoyed. |
