A few Badweb Conservatives said they would not be voting for Romney. I am wondering if their minds have changed now that we have Paul Ryan on the ticket.
Romney and Ryan are on 60 Minutes right now. What a refreshing change from the government centricity and lies spewing from the Obama-Biden-Axelrod crime syndicate. If you are a moderate or Conservative who dislikes Romney, check this out. You will be pleasantly surprised at how articulate Ryan is.
I think Ryan was a calculated choice. I hope he has the gusto to really call out the incumbent for what he truly is. Us folks up here in Va. thought our gov might get the nod but he was involved in a nasty vaginal probe bill during the Gen. Assembly this year. Look it up. The opposition wouldve jumped all over that one.
I'm not a mormon, but we are not voting for church pastor here. My point with that remark is put your differences down and vote against Obama. This country should not be made to endure another four years of this man's administration.
The Ryan pick says one thing to me and it Screams it ... Romney is serious about getting our Financial house in order and that is EXACTLY what this country needs.
I like his stance on Health Care - if you null that whole Fiasco - the Obama Administration has NOTHING to stand on. (and if you have critically analyzed the bill - you have known that for far too long)
ps, China has started to privatize their health care delivery, medical universities and pharmaceuticals into profit capitalist driven revenue cycles for quality and competition... who knew !??!?!
Me? I am absolutely thrilled. This country NEEDS some R&R.
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Paul Ryan: A Serious VP Pick for a Serious Election By Arnold Ahlert, August 13, 2012
Presumptive Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney has delighted Tea Partiers, surprised the Republican establishment, and sent Democrats a clear message that this campaign will be about issues. In short, he has gone "bold" and selected Rep. Paul Ryan (R-WI) as his running mate. The announcement was delivered at a campaign stop in Norfolk, VA prior to launching a four-day campaign tour. "He doesn't demonize his opponents. He understands that honorable people can have honest differences and he appeals to the better angels of our nature," Romney said. "He's never been content to just curse the darkness. He'd rather light candles."
The Chairman of the House Budget Committee wasted no time setting the agenda. "No one disputes that President Obama inherited a difficult situation," Ryan said. "And, in his first two years, with his party in complete control of Washington, he passed nearly every item on his agenda. But that didn't make things better. In fact, we find ourselves in a nation facing debt, doubt and despair ... Whatever the explanations, whatever the excuses, this is a record of failure."
...Ryan brings a blast of energy to a campaign in dire need of that energy. His budgetary expertise will stand in stark contrast to a Democratic Party attempting to convince Americans they can "have it all" with respect to entitlement programs -- even as they have yet to offer even the slightest idea how a country drowning in a sea of red ink will pay for it. Ryan, who is a walking, talking encyclopedia of budgetary facts and figures, will undoubtedly press them to explain that contradiction.
Yet the choice of Ryan also says a lot about Mitt Romney. First and foremost, it demonstrates a sense of self-awareness about his own shortcomings, which like any good businessman, he has chosen to address. Picking Ryan, who may outshine him, also reveals a willingness by Romney to manage his ego, as does his willingness to adopt Ryan's budget strategy as his own. Romney has also turned a race that was rapidly becoming a mudfest into one of competing visions of the future of the nation -- at a time when that future is very much at stake. And finally, a man with a reputation for playing it safe has suddenly shown a determination to take the kind of risk no one expected to take, revealing a strength of character in the process.
One line in Ryan's acceptance speech summed up the essential difference between the campaigns. "If you have a small business, you did build that," he said. That's starkly different from president Obama's agenda for the future. And in a presidential election, few things are better that well-illuminated differences in agendas. Courtesy of Mitt Romney picking Paul Ryan as his running mate, Americans now have a clear set of choices in November -- possibly the clearest one in quite some time.
And a little bit more trivia... the GM Plant in Janesville, WI, Ryan's home town... was shuttered (who can tell me?) before or after this monstrous bailout was sent to GM?
At the time, no one knew that TARP was going to be squandered on public sector unions and crony capitalism. That money went down a rathole and the Obama crime syndicate is trying to enslave the next generation more with TARP 2.
Please tell us about "shovel ready jobs" which was the big lie foisted upon us.
Don't even get me started about the criminality of what the Obama crime syndicate did with GM.
Paul Ryan is a breath of fresh air. He will be the POTUS in either 2016 or 2020. The future seems brighter for the first time in 24 years.
>>>You guys DO KNOW that Ryan voted FOR TARP and the AUTO INDUSTRY BAIL OUT? Right?
Absolutely
And, while I personally disagree, I respect the fact that he voted what he felt was in the best interests of his constituents.
You are aware that during the period Obama served as a Senator
Ryan thought, considered and DID something.
Obama, on the other hand, while serving as a legislator, voted "Present" 129 times.
Rudy Guiliani summed it up nicely:
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And nearly 130 times, he couldn't make a decision. He couldn't figure out whether to vote "yes" or "no." It was too tough. He voted — he voted "present."I didn't know about this vote "present" when I was mayor of New York City. Sarah Palin didn't have this vote "present" when she was mayor or governor. You don't get "present." It doesn't work in an executive job. For president of the United States, it's not good enough to be present.
Barack Obama had unprecedented and unchallenged TOTAL CONTROL of the United States Congress for the first 2 years of his administration.
During the period of time that he, literally and figuratively, could have done anything . . the lazy SOB was on out playing golf and pimping on the people's pocketbook
He's amassed more deficit that all other Presidents combined and when questioned spews some drivel about "the mess I was left with".
Bullshit
Not only has he failed to abate the problems, he's accelerated them.
He promised unemployment would not be allowed to exceed 8% . . it's never been below that.
Of course, he also promised to close Gitmo in a year . . he can't even pull that off.
He's lied, cheated and spent most his time playing, vacationing and campaigning. He's a national embarrassment.
Add the crap he's pulled with Holder, Solyndra and GM (all of which was in blatant violation of Federal Laws) and you get a picture of the type of lazy bum that's become a poster boy for entitlement and letting someone else do the heavy lifting.
Kick his lame ass out.
(Wait till you see his transcript and you'll understand)
With all due respect, I thought the thread was about Paul Ryan?
I was talking about Paul Ryan, because his ideology doesn't seem to match his actions, Court.
Any time a career politician who has been in DC over a decade, while proclaiming to be all about eliminating government spending, it smacks of hypocrisy.
And saying that is entirely apart from how I feel about his nomination... which, personally, I am THRILLED about...
If I wanted to debate about Obama, I think I would have posted in the one of MANY other threads on this board.
Just pointing out a few facts that most of the east and west coasters probably do not know (yet).
Don't worry Reindog, I am sure I won't be around long... just because I lived 30 minutes from Ryan's hometown and know personally a lot of people that got the shaft, I thought I might comment.
I would love to see Obama's transcripts. Court, do you think they will be made public during this campaign? Where is Daniel Ellsburg when you really need him?
TARP...I believe we were on the cusp of a deflationary spiral which would have created a Depression. I think that’s probably pretty likely. If we would have allowed that to happen, I think we would have had a big government agenda sweeping through this country so fast that we wouldn’t have recovered from it. So in order to prevent a Depression and a complete evisceration of the free market system we have, I think it was necessary. It wasn’t a fun vote. You don’t get to choose the kind of votes you want. But I just think as far as the long term objectives that I have — which are restoring the principles of this country — I think it was necessary to prevent those principles from being really kind of wiped out for a generation.
Auto. Really clear. The president’s chief of staff [Josh Bolten] made it extremely clear to me before the vote, which is either the auto companies get the money that was put in the Energy Department for them already — a bill that I voted against because I didn’t want to give them that money, which was only within the $25 billion, money that was already expended but not obligated — or the president was going to give them TARP, with no limit. That’s what they told me. That’s what the president’s chief of staff explained to me. I said, ‘Well, I don’t want them to get TARP. We want to keep TARP on a [inaudible]. We don’t want to expand it. So give them that Energy Department money that at least puts them out of TARP, and is limited.’ Well, where are we now? What I feared would happen did happen. The bill failed, and now they’ve got $87 billion from TARP, money we’re not going to get back. And now TARP, as a precedent established by the Bush administration, whereby the Obama administration now has turned this thing into its latest slush fund. And so I voted for that to prevent precisely what has happened, which I feared would happen.
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Paul Ryan Voted For The Bailouts, But Has Since Soured On Them By Suzy Khimm, August 13, 2012
Along with 90 of his House Republican colleagues, Paul Ryan voted for TARP four years ago. At the time, he argued that the bank bailout — initially estimated to cost $700 billion — was necessary “in order to preserve this free enterprise system…if we fail to do the right thing, heaven help us.” Ryan also voted that year to support the auto bailout.
Ryan’s pro-bailout votes have raised the hackles of many conservatives, and he breaks from Mitt Romney on the auto bailout, which the former Massachusetts governor opposes. Over the past few years, however, Ryan has soured on the same bailouts that he voted for, arguing that they’ve been diverted from their original purposes and manipulated by administration officials for political purposes.
In his 2013 budget, the House Budget chairman accuses the Treasury Department of having diverted TARP from its original purpose of “providing targeted assistance to unlock credit markets” and turning the program “into an ad hoc, opaque bailout and a slush fund for large private institutions.” Although Ryan’s budget acknowledges that TARP “succeeded in halting a systemic panic,” the budget also concludes that TARP has “morphed into crony capitalism at its worst.” Read the rest of the article: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/wp/ 2012/08/13/paul-ryan-voted-for-the-bailouts-but-he s-since-soured-on-them/
There's plenty more about this subject online; these are the first couple to come up in a search.
For anyone wanting a better glimpse of who Paul Ryan really is, here's the link to his YouTube channel:
My take? Paul Ryan is the real deal, a conservative American Patriot, someone with the honesty and integrity to help return American back to its Constitutional roots. He and Mr. Romney have already become a formidable team. Look for the smear campaign from the left to be vicious and unrelenting.
Democrat Erskine Bowles Called Ryan Budget 'Sensible, Straightforward, Serious' By Michael Patrick Leahy, 13 Aug 2012
Erskine Bowles, the Democratic co-chairman of President Obama's National Commission on Fiscal Responsibility and Reform, called the Paul Ryan budget "sensible, straightforward, serious" at a speech given at the University of North Carolina last September. The video of the speech, first reported at HotAir via Morgen Richmond, provides a compelling case that a growing number of independents and Democrats are acknowledging President Obama has failed to offer a serious solution to our expanding fiscal crisis.
HotAir offers this transcript of the portion of speech captured in this video, courtesy of blogger Resist We Much:
“Have any of you met Paul Ryan? We should get him to come to the university. I’m telling you this guy is amazing, uh. I always thought that I was OK with arithmetic, but this guy can run circles around me. And, he is honest. He is straightforward. He is sincere.
And, the budget that he came forward with is just like Paul Ryan. It is a sensible, straightforward, serious budget and it cut the budget deficit by $4 trillion…just like we did.
The President came out with his own plan and the President came out, as you will remember, with a budget and I don’t think anyone took that budget very seriously. Um, the Senate voted against it 97 to nothing. He, therefore, after a lot of pressure from folks like me, he came out with a new budget framework and, in the new budget framework, he cut the budget deficit by $4 trillion over 12 years. And, to be candid, this $4 trillion cut was very heavily back-end loaded. So, if you looked at it on a 10 year basis and compared apples-to-apples, it was about a $2.5 trillion cut.”
sorry - it's all I got ; and not much more than they actually poffer for their campaign.
I was not a fan of TARP under Bush, and DEFINITELY not under OBAMA.
Nobody saved Studebaker, AMC, Duesenberg, Tucker, Kaiser, Bantam, Avanti, Stutz, etc.... Businesses come, rise, succeed, and fail - it is the evolution of progress; and those companies that do endure - are nothing of the shadow of the products that they were at their inception - your model and products adjust and advance - or you die. If you try and administratively force and stabilize an industry .... we would still have the horse whip trade guild demanding that we all buy a new whip every year.
ps, I have a similar view of Hospice - but that is something altogether different....marginally.
Romney-Ryan Looking For A Fight On The Issues By William Bigelow, 12 Aug 2012
The Romney-Ryan campaign has now thrown down the gauntlet to the Obama campaign. The choice in the 2012 election is now between a substance-driven race, and vicious and shameful misdirection. In so many words, Romney-Ryan tells the Obama campaign that if the American people are supposed to take them seriously, they should start discussing the issues in serious manner.
...Ryan called Obama’s bluff this way: “We don’t need attack, we don’t need blame — we need leadership. President Obama can’t run on his record, because it’s a terrible thing to run on.” And his selection made it quite clear that Obama won’t be able to duck the issues now: “The selection of Ryan, a budget and policy wonk with a penchant for drawing charts to drive home key points, has the potential to transform the presidential campaign … into a more substance-driven race.”
Take a look at how Ryan used his information gained from non-public hearings on the bank crisis to make a killing in bank stocks. All legal of course.
He is not Mr. Clean. You can buy his ideas or not just don't make him out to be some knight in shiny armor. You lay down with pigs you end up dirty. Pretty much no one in DC is a saint.
Dave, you make an accusation yet don't offer up a source besides yourself. Nice.
This was my first Google hit; I assume there are more:
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UPDATE: Paul Ryan's Bank Transactions Were Not Insider Trading Eric Platt, Aug. 13, 2012,
Republican Vice Presidential Pick Paul Ryan sold shares in a number of financial companies including Citigroup, General Electric, Wachovia, and JP Morgan Chase on the same day as then-Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson and Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke held a closed meeting with congressional leaders during the financial crisis.
At issue are the sale of troubled banks like Wachovia and Citi, as well as General Electric's struggling capital unit, dated on September 18, 2008 — the same day as the meeting with Bernanke and Paulson according to the Associated Press.
However, according to The New York Times, the meeting was held in the evening, which raises significant doubt if any member in attendance would have been able to act on the conversation.
Dave, you familiar with TPM - Talking Points Memo? Here's how they describe themselves:
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Commentary on political events from a politically left perspective, by Joshua Micah Marshall.
I'm sure you noticed the "politically left perspective" part.
Here's what TPM has to say about your allegation of impropriety on Mr. Ryan's part:
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Paul Ryan Insider Trading Rumor Quickly Debunked By Benjy Sarlin, Aug 13, 2012
It had the makings of a scandal: Paul Ryan traded banking stocks during the financial crisis the same day as a meeting with top Treasury Department officials, a Virginia blog wrote Monday. But the rumor, which spread rapidly across the Internet, doesn’t hold up to scrutiny.
...It was wrong. In fact, the meeting with Bernanke took place in the evening after trading hours, meaning Ryan wouldn’t have had time to execute the move if he wanted to.
The Romney campaign said Ryan had nothing to do with the trades in the first place. They were part of a Russell 1000 index fund that automatically traded stocks as part of a pre-set formula. Ryan’s disclosure forms include several similar trade patterns at various points throughout the year.
...In a statement provided to TPM through the Romney campaign, Larry Gaffney, the independent accountant for the partnership who handled the trades in question, said the stocks were out of Ryan’s control.
“Trades are done automatically based on an algorithm on a regular basis,” said Gaffney, who works as a CPA in Ryan’s hometown of Janesville, Wis. “In addition, this index was held at the time within a partnership in which Rep. Ryan had and continues to have no trading authority.”
He is not Mr. Clean. You can buy his ideas or not just don't make him out to be some knight in shiny armor. You lay down with pigs you end up dirty. Pretty much no one in DC is a saint.
Didya somehow miss the comment earlier from Erskine Bowles, the Democratic co-chairman of President Obama's National Commission on Fiscal Responsibility and Reform, regarding Mr. Ryan:
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Have any of you met Paul Ryan? We should get him to come to the university. I’m telling you this guy is amazing, uh. I always thought that I was OK with arithmetic, but this guy can run circles around me. And, he is honest. He is straightforward. He is sincere.
As a libertarian, the addition of Ryan to the ticket will get me into the voting booth.
The inside scoop on subsidized foreign student B. Hussein Obama's reduced tuition, his being allowed into a top university, a top law school, and getting a pass on his low grades while merely being "present" in classes, stories from classmates, etc., are beginning to appear, first to be ignored by the press who think themselves actually mattering in the days if the Internet. Present in class, present in the IL senate, present in the federal senate, elected to our highest off and still, effectively, just present and waiting to force his way against "the man."
How about the rest of you Badweb Conservatives who stated that they would not vote for Romney? Will you vote for the Romney-Ryan ticket this November? There is simply nothing more important than removing Obama from office this November.
