| Author | Message | ||
     Johnnylunchbox |
Aside from Mayor Mike's view on guns, he is still a republican at heart even though he is now an independent. http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/video/mayor-bloombe rg-calls-chick-fil-a-ban-inappropriate-16871152 | ||
| Moxnix |
>>> First amendment means all these people have a right to speak their minds. SO whats the problem? Huh? Who are "these people?" So, the business owner is punished by "these people" for giving his take on marriage. Has he no right to speak out for his values? Sure, sure, some people are more equal than Christians and Christian business people. We get it. It's a free country, or used to be. In theory, everyone enjoys the same right, per our constitution. On the other hand, the idea that all people are equal, equally capable or equally treated, is a pipe dream. The anti-chicken restaurant protest is just another skirmish in the ongoing culture wars. It's meant to create divisiveness in society, them versus us & vice verse. When I get to Chik-fil-A, I'll think of all the Christian bashing sexual minorities who want to have a kiss-in, and offer to let them kiss my butt if any are in attendance. | ||
| Rah7777777 |
I could care less about the owners stake on gay marriage. I think free speech is important... BUT, think about the franchise owners who are located in primarily gay communities. These businesses will see a reduction in revenue down the road from his statement. That is what bothers me, innocent franchise owners will feel the effects of the owners statement, whether they agree or do not agree. I do love the new spicy deluxe chicken sandwich!! MMmm! But I sure as hell wouldn't wait in the line that shut down half the major road I was on today! | ||
| Just_ziptab |
Kiss-in and public display of affection....... Swell. Would the non gay,gay supporters change their mind if they had the family out for a walk in the city park and come upon two guys that are fut bucking on a park bench? | ||
| Froggy |
Me? No. But I am sure that is illegal anyway, regardless of what sexes are involved.
Reminds me of the BP oil spill, people stopped going to BP stations, despite the fact that the station franchises had absolutely nothing to do with it.
Yet WalMart isn't allowed in NYC either, but I am not aware if that has anything to do with Blomberg.
Looks like the KFC/Taco Bell near my job every day. I end up going to the one in the next town over, as it is always less crowded. | ||
| Gregtonn |
"I think free speech is important... BUT, think about the franchise owners who are located in primarily gay communities." No need to think about it. Why? Not even the "gayest" of communities is primarily "gay". G | ||
| Hybridmomentspass |
"Would the non gay,gay supporters change their mind if they had the family out for a walk in the city park and come upon two guys that are fut bucking on a park bench?" Better question - are you ok taking your family out for a walk in the city part and come upon one man and one woman fut bucking on a park bench? No, you wouldnt be cool with that either. Or standard vaginal sex. It is inappropriate regardless of the gender(s) and sexual preference. And, as Froggy said, illegal. I dont care how the CEO of ChicFilA feels. Or any celebrity. Or politician. Doesnt change my views. I like CFA, they are delicious, eat there about once a month. Will continue to. You should support a place because of their product and service, not how they feel about homosexuals or something | ||
| Notpurples2 |
Mox reread my post, 'these people' Im referring to are the protestors, the owner, and the supporters. They all have a right to speak their minds. And likewise they shouldn't be surprised when people disagree... Neither should you | ||
| Notpurples2 |
I don't think there is any legal issues here as long as the business isnt actively discriminating against customers. Has any mayor or other politician actually done anything to ban, fine, or close chic fil a returaunts? Or are they too just using their first amendment rights to give thier opinion? | ||
| Notpurples2 |
Sounds like a bunch of hot air from the politicians which is what typically comes out of them. | ||
| Pwnzor |
What strikes me as ironic about the whole situation is that all my gay friends are spewing massive amounts of hate all over Facebook... wait... Did I just use "spewing" and "face" in the same sentence when referring to gays? back on topic here, one of my friends since childhood who is what you might call "extremely gay" is spending a lot of time bashing Chick Fil-a, and then within minutes posting stuff about acceptance and tolerance. The dichotomy here is staggering. | ||
| Kenm123t |
Pwnzor its the old test people blame you with what they are doing. Started with Adam he blamed Eve for the apple He said that woman you gave me caused me eat the forbidden fruit. | ||
| Ratbuell |
Restaurant owners should focus on selling food. Period. They're welcome to have their views, sure. Every person has their right to free thought, speech, and press. But when this meatball aligns his COMPANY with his PERSONAL beliefs, that's where the problems (and rallies, and kiss-ins) start. If you have personal beliefs, keep them personal. That doesn't mean you can't promote them in public...just promote them as Joe Schmo The Individual, not "the company owner". If you put your personal beliefs into your company's profile...expect fallout. | ||
| Etennuly |
Well they are not against the gay folks working for them. There is a headline this morning where their gay employees are protesting.   A little off the gay topic, their stores being closed on Sunday to me is a good idea. One of the things we have lost in this country is family values. When I was a kid Saturday shopping had to be done by noon. Everything was closed Sunday except for a couple of gas stations and a drug store. This, I think was the basis for family outings and get togethers. Not necessarily because of the religious over tones of being closed on Sundays, but when most businesses determined it to be a profitable day, family 'being together days' got tossed under the buss for profit. Then that snowball got running, where with an extra day to spend spend spend, we have to work overtime to make that extra $, so the kids are left alone again. Then they hang out on street corners until they form gangs who steal or vandalize the nice "extra stuff" that we bought on Sunday with our over time pay from our evening and Saturday overtime work that kept us away from our kids in the first place. Whoops! That was a bit of a spinning rant. Sorry. | ||
| Mikef5000 |
But the restaurant was founded with these beliefs in mind. He's always had these beliefs, and he's always displayed them (closed Sundays, posters, etc). Just because intolerant crybabies want to make a stink out of it now, doesn't mean he's been doing it wrong all along. And by the way, could someone please find a source quoting what was actually stated by this guy??? All I can find is a comment on family values. | ||
| Sifo |
If you have personal beliefs, keep them personal. That doesn't mean you can't promote them in public...just promote them as Joe Schmo The Individual, not "the company owner". How do you separate the individual from the business owner? I see no problem with his statement at all. If he were to be discriminatory in his business practices, then there would be an issue. The various mayors who came out stating that Chick Fil A locations would not be allowed to open in their cities however is discriminatory. It is discrimination based solely on the religious beliefs of the person being discriminated against. That is religious persecution plain and simple. These mayors should be removed from office ASAP. They also are opening their cities up to huge lawsuits based on religious persecution. It doesn't even matter if the mayors take any actual action to prevent them from opening stores. The simple statements that they will do so demonstrates religious persecution. | ||
| Petethekiller |
I think this thread is pretty gay.... | ||
| Mikef5000 |
Yeah we're all havin a good time. | ||
| Fb1 |
And by the way, could someone please find a source quoting what was actually stated by this guy??? All I can find is a comment on family values.
Dan Cathy is quite a "meatball," eh?  | ||
| Fb1 |
Dan Cathy should be run out of America! His values are not OUR values!! | ||
| Fb1 |
If you put your personal beliefs into your company's profile...expect fallout. Should you expect elected politicians to deny you the right to do business here in America because you expressed Christian values?
It would seem that thousands of Americans "voted" with their pocketbooks for Dan Cathy and his Christian values yesterday. Maybe there's hope for US after all... | ||
| Wolfridgerider |
2 hour wait.... twas tasty...  | ||
| Kyrocket |
I thought this was a pretty cool line... She said it was not about the politics, but about Menino’s actions being “way out of line.” She added: “I’m standing up against the machine.” http://bostonglobe.com/metro/2012/08/01/hundreds-g ather-burlington-mall-support-and-eat-chick-fil-ap preciation-day/rnqRNXDTdirTwaVaSdsevO/story.html | ||
| Ulyranger |
I read nothing prohibitive, nor exclusionary in his answer to the interview question. Certainly not discriminatory in their practices. Evidence?? The real issue here is an abuse of power for personal gain by the mayors. Using your elected position and vast resources to discriminate who does their legal business there is wrong, possibly illegal, definitely shameless. Just show me the process in their commercial building codes applications where religious views of an individual employee is the basis for denial of said permit.......... This is hardly just an expression of the Mayors' individual rights of free speech... | ||
| Reindog |
Dan Cathy was essentially stating views that until recently, Obama shared. Welcome to 1984. | ||
| Fb1 |
The real issue here is an abuse of power for personal gain by the mayors. The real issue here is an abuse of power by the liberal mainstream media to help garner votes for Obama and the democratic party in November. This whole deal about "homophobia" on the part of Mr. Cathy was fabricated 100% by the liberal media, and it has blown up in their face, much to the embarrassment of them and the democratic party. It's encouraging that so many Americans took the time, and money, to vote for traditional American values yesterday. It reminds me of the Boston Tea Party in many respects. I am filled with new hope. Best, Ferris | ||
| Stirz007 |
And there you have it. Lack of tolerance for an opposing viewpoint - good political leadership (sarcasm)  | ||
| Fb1 |
Read the rest of Mr. Alexander's column: http://patriotpost.us/alexander/14304 | ||
| 86129squids |
I generally prefer to make and enjoy my own sandwiches at home, along with most all of my other meals. Same with sex. Fast food AND fast sex is BAD for you, folks.  FWIW, Chik-Fil-A has never really appealed to me... I try my best to seek out and spend my $$$ with the independent joints. I'm lucky enough to work for one as well- echoing Vern's line, with the exception of Easter and Mother's Day, we're closed on Sundays and other "bank" holidays. I believe in "work to live", not "live to work"... And- there ARE more worthy things to pay attention to in the world besides this tempest in a teapot. | ||
| Xl1200r |
I don't particularly agree with the Chik-Fil-A CEO's views, but then again, I don't have to. He's entirely within his rights to express them. I also don't agree with some of these politician's reactions to it - that, however, does matter as I agree with you all - it is political thuggery and, if acted on, unconstitutional (they are free to say whatever they like as they are also protected by the first ammendment). Let's not get all twisted up, though - it's important to remember that both sides are as equally intolerant of one another. Please don't bother trying to offer a rebuttle - there are far too many examples to support my side and you all know it. I don't understand what ever happened to just "live and let live". The gay community is fighting for equal rights, what difference could it possibly make for anyone who is already in a "traditional family unit", whatever that is... People scare me. |
