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Aesquire
Posted on Wednesday, July 18, 2012 - 07:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.cnbc.com/id/48224439

Geedee, that's interesting. London and the Vatican? I'm more than tempted to assume that is whacko conspiracy talk... but I'll look into it. I'll try to keep an open mind.

There IS a difference in the parties, though. It's important. The line that there is no difference is propaganda made up by the losing side. ( the D's in this case, since/before 2010 )

Aristocrats protect their own. That's a given. It's been said to get rid of a long term Pol, you need a dead girl or a live boy. Something to that, but some, Bill Clinton, for example, got a total pass on rape charges from multiple sources. I suspect Obama could get away with even more. And, other than sex crimes, has.

But the R's will denounce their own far faster than the D's will, even when the R's are in power. ( I admit, the R's have only been in power for a short time since WW2. From Clinton to Bush the younger. The REST of American history since WW2 is pretty solidly D ) I point out, for example C Wrangle, D, NY, who had his hearings on tax and ethics crimes delayed until after he could fake a re-election.

But, I admit, that is ethics. Not a big word today in politics. So, keeping to the simple and solid, the D's are far more likely to cancel your Constitutional rights of the 1st and 2nd Amendments. ( upon which ALL other rights rest. ) It is mostly D's that want to take away your guns. It is mostly D's that want to suppress your speech. I'd like to say the R's are solidly behind the Constitution, but I honestly can't. We do have some hope in the fact that there is a reformist movement in the R's. I see no such in the D's, at all.

From a Libertarian Standpoint, there IS a difference. Sure George the younger started up the Homeland Security Agency, and pushed for Mediscrew Pt D. But Georgie never claimed the power to disappear American Citizens without any legal recourse, at all, including the courtesy of telling your family you were in secret prison, or murdered on the President's personal order. ( it is claimed by THIS admin. that Barack passes sentence of death himself in what used to be called ( stupidly ) the War On Terror. )

The intrusion into your lives that some found acceptable, will very soon redouble as the excuse of Health Care Costs demands direct control over your Diet and activity. Bloomberg is the tip of that iceberg. From Banning Big Gulps to Motorcycles seems quite a stretch.... it's not. Not in the eyes of those who feel it's Their Job to protect you from yourself.

The stages of denial to acceptance in loss are well documented.... Consider the new stages of realization of Direct Government Rule.

None of your business.

None of your damn business.

No wonder you want to take our guns.
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Fb1
Posted on Wednesday, July 18, 2012 - 08:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Tom, in snooping around the internews I discovered who inspired Obama's delirious "YOU didn't build that" diatribe in Roanoke the other day:



I'll give it to Ms. Warren: At least she sounds like she actually believes the stuff that's coming out of her mouth. Obama just seemed, well, out of control.


And for a biting counterpoint:



Obama to America: "You suck, but I don't, and I'm here to save you...from YOU!"

What an inspiration.
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Sifo
Posted on Wednesday, July 18, 2012 - 08:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)







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Reindog
Posted on Wednesday, July 18, 2012 - 08:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

FB1,

Isn't it way past your bedtime, fella?

I wish people with opposing viewpoints would chime in here. Badweb appears to be a microcosm where "progressives" remain silent while clinging to their emotional belief system regardless of facts. America is in serious danger because of this in addition to the people who pay zero taxes and/or suck on the government tit. This all comes to an end one way or the other. Economic sustainability is the preferred outcome. It appears that we are headed towards economic chaos. Hello, 1933.
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Geedee
Posted on Thursday, July 19, 2012 - 06:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ron Paul’s monumental last day as chairman against The Fed
Thursday, 19 July 2012 10:23

BERNANKE SLAMS AUDIT THE FED
Reports Reuters:

Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke on Wednesday rebutted Republican lawmakers pushing a bill that would give Congress the ability to review monetary policy decisions, saying it could compromise central bank independence.

Bernanke said it would be a “nightmare scenario” if politicians decided to second-guess monetary policy.

“That is very concerning because there’s a lot of evidence that an independent central bank that makes decisions based strictly on economic considerations and not based on political pressure will deliver lower inflation and better economic results in the longer term,” Bernanke told the U.S. House of Representatives’ Financial Services Committee.

The hearing was the likely last chance for retiring Texas Representative Ron Paul, known for proposing the Fed should be abolished, to grill the central bank chairman.

“Trillions and trillions of dollars (are) being printed out of thin air,” said Paul.

The Republican-controlled House is on track to take up Paul’s Fed audit legislation next week. The bill, which has been co-sponsored by more than half of all House members, looks set to clear that chamber…

Paul’s bill would direct the Government Accountability Office, an independent, nonpartisan congressional agency, to conduct a Fed review, and it would remove an exemption monetary policy has enjoyed.

Bernanke said the very notion of a monetary policy audit was misleading.

The funniest part of this story:

“The term ‘audit the Fed’ is deceptive. The public thinks that auditing means checking the books, looking at the financial statements, making sure that you’re not doing special deals, and that kind of thing. All of those things are (already) completely open,” (Bernanke) said.

Completely open? Yeah right!

PAUL RIPS BERNANKE
Reports Forbes:

In what Congressman Bacchus called “a double dose,” Texas Representative Ron Paul grilled Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke on two occasions on Tuesday at the House Financial Services Committee. Congressman Paul scolded the Fed Chairman for being “secretive” while claiming that the financial crisis is “far from over…”

After facing a relatively tamer Senate Banking Committee, the Fed Chairman’s feet were held to the fire by Ron Paul & Co.

While the exchange was rather one-sided, Ron Paul made his points heard. He first criticized the Fed for equivocating independence with secrecy, noting that about $15 trillion had been used for overseas bailouts during the crisis, via currency swaps, which the Congress could not monitor.

Ron Paul then noted that when Bernanke claims the Fed stands ready to support Europe and other geographies during times of financial and economic crisis, it’s actually the American tax payer that is shouldering the burden. The Fed Chairman responded by noting that it is Congress which delegated the responsibility to manage monetary policy to the Federal Reserve.

While the Fed Chairman tried to avoid engaging Ron Paul, he did show his ideological bent when he told Ron Paul that while Congress could eliminate the statue the makes the Fed an independent body, it would result in a more inefficient central bank and ultimately a worse outcome.

The Congressman from Texas also warned that the financial crisis is in the early stages, “it’s far from over,” he added…




http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedd ed&v=n71ijtWKvSE

Good Luck Ron Paul, and thanks.
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Aesquire
Posted on Thursday, July 19, 2012 - 07:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/07/do_obamas_e xecutive_orders_reveal_a_pattern.html#ixzz20to19bI x
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Fb1
Posted on Thursday, July 19, 2012 - 11:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

FB1,
Isn't it way past your bedtime, fella?

Yes. :-)

Good Luck Ron Paul, and thanks.
+1.

~~~


quote:

"Let anyone try to get a railroad built, or to start a factory and win reputation for its products, or to start a school and win a reputation for it, or to found a newspaper and make it a success, or to start any other enterprise, and he will find what obstacles must be overcome, what risks must be taken, what perseverance and courage are required, what foresight and sagacity are necessary...where resources are strained to the utmost all the time, the judgment, courage, and perseverance required to organize new enterprises. Persons who possess the necessary qualifications obtain great rewards. They ought to do so. It is foolish to rail at them. Men of routine or men who can do what they are told are not hard to find; but men who can think and plan and tell the routine men what to do are very rare. They are paid in proportion to the supply and demand of them. Some have said that [those who have made a] fortune out of those who worked for [them] or with [them]. But would those persons have been able to come together, organize themselves, and earn what they did earn without him? Not at all. They would have been comparatively helpless. He and they together formed a great system of factories, stores, transportation, under his guidance and judgment. It was for the benefit of all; but he contributed to it what no one else was able to contribute--the one guiding mind which made the whole thing possible. In no sense whatever does a man who accumulates a fortune by legitimate industry exploit his employees, or make his capital 'out of' anybody else. The wealth which he wins would not be but for him."

-- "What Social Classes Owe to Each Other" by William Graham Sumner, 1883


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Reindog
Posted on Thursday, July 19, 2012 - 01:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Atlas Shrugged is seeming less and less like a work of fiction.

http://www.independentsentinel.com/2012/07/ayn-ran d-knew-barack-obama-before-he-was-even-born/

"Ayn Rand warned us about Barack and now appears to have been an oracle. She knew the dangers of totalitarianism from her own personal experiences. In her book “Atlas Shrugged,” one passage concerns one of her characters, the inventor of Reardon Steel.

From Atlas Shrugged.

“It was an amazing unique development in light and incredibly strong steel.”

“He didn’t invent iron ore and blast furnaces, did he?” “Who?”

“Rearden. He didn’t invent smelting and chemistry and air compression. He couldn’t have invented his Metal but for thousands and thousands of other people. His Metal! Why does he think it’s his? Why does he think it’s his invention? Everybody uses the work of everybody else. Nobody ever invents anything.”

She said, puzzled, “But the iron ore and all those other things were there all the time. Why didn’t anybody else make that Metal, but Mr. Rearden did?”"
---------
Indeed.

Who is John Galt?
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Reindog
Posted on Thursday, July 19, 2012 - 01:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Bill Whittle sums up the miracle of Obama. Wonder why you never see Bill and Court in the same room at the same time? Check out the latest PJTV episode of Afterburner.

Afterburner: "It's a Miracle!"

effin Communist.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Thursday, July 19, 2012 - 02:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Does anyone elses skin crawl when they picture Obama on the phone with Putin "negotiating"?

Idealistic differences aside (which I and Obama certainly have), sending Obama in to negiotiate with Putin would be like sending a 12 year old in to sign up for the families next 10 year long cell phone contract.

*shudder*
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Hootowl
Posted on Thursday, July 19, 2012 - 03:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"would be like sending a 12 year old in to sign up for the families next 10 year long cell phone contract."

Worse. The 12 year old is also a sales rep for the cell phone company.
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Fb1
Posted on Thursday, July 19, 2012 - 09:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)



Mitt Romney spoke at Middlesex Truck and Coach in Boston, Massachusetts today.

quote:

"We're surprised the President has not met with his Jobs Council in the last six months. The White House was asked why that was. Well the President has a lot on his plate. We took a look at his schedule. Over the last six months he has done 106 fundraisers. The job he is interested in protecting is his own.

"When the president said that if you've got a business, you didn't build it, come here and talk to Brian and you'll learn that, in fact, he did build this business. Someone else isn't responsible for what he did here. He's the one that took the risk. He's the one that built this enterprise. He's the one responsible for helping get these people these jobs. And then the people who work here, they're also responsible for helping build this business. They came together and did it together. This is not the result of government. This is the result of people who take risk, who have dreams, who build for themselves, and for their families."

"Now, I know there are some people who think what the president said was just a gaffe. It wasn't a gaffe. It was instead his ideology. The president does in fact believe that people who build enterprises like this really aren't responsible for it, but in fact it's a collective success of the whole society, so somehow builds enterprises like this. In my view, we ought to celebrate people who start enterprises and employ other people."



Read more: http://thehill.com/video/campaign/239041-romney-ob amas-you-didnt-build-that-comment-not-a-gaffe-its- his-ideology
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Fb1
Posted on Thursday, July 19, 2012 - 09:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


quote:

Top Ten Things Obama Has Not Released
Joel B. Pollak, July 18, 2012


As the Obama campaign and the media continue to press Mitt Romney to release more of his tax returns, and to suggest--without a shred of evidence--that he is a “felon,” it is worth noting how much critical information Barack Obama has withheld from view--both as a candidate in 2008, and during his term in office. Here is a Breitbart News top ten list of things that Obama has refused to release (a complete list would fill volumes):

Read more: http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/07/18 /Top-Ten-Things-Obama-Has-Not-Released


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Aesquire
Posted on Thursday, July 19, 2012 - 09:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/obama-ad-accus es-romney-launching-false-attack-quoting-obama_648 762.html

Really, this is the basic point of Barack's mind. It IS his faith. ( Not Islam, he's apostate on that one, despite his early indoctrination ) Salvation is a collective thing. All wealth is owned by the Holy State. All power is in the Hands of the Holy State.

Obama is the Pope of the Holy State in his mind and heart. No wonder he hates Congress. The challenge him. People don't do that to HIM.

So, have his biographies been moved to Fiction or Abnormal Psychology yet?
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Kenm123t
Posted on Thursday, July 19, 2012 - 10:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Both they are fiction by a mentally compromised person.
As obama sees the depth of his failures he will become very dangerous!
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Fb1
Posted on Thursday, July 19, 2012 - 10:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


quote:

"President Obama, you're killin' us out here! Through hard work and a little bit of luck, we built this business. Why are you demonizing us for it?"




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Geedee
Posted on Friday, July 20, 2012 - 07:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Could be an interesting read.

COUP D'TWELVE: The Enterprise that Bought the Presidency [Paperback]
David E. Martin (Author)
Amazon.com.

"Apparently he was among a group of 12 people who were given the task of buying the presidency of the U.S. and succeeded. Although he evidently turned them down when he was offered the 12th position in this group, he has now put the story into a novel called "Apostles of Power: Theft of an Empire" originally called "Coup d'Twelve".

Considering his substantial background in business and finance and his unique software that became highly sought after by the controllers behind this group of 12, there is reason to believe this novel is, as he claims, entirely true and based on very real events."


From the novel:

"...Everyone was in awe of how much money had been transferred into the Enterprise accounts in full view of a world who believed that a financial crisis had hit the real estate market. Who would have thought that a Republican lame duck president would actually convince the country to use its last gasp of credit to put the Treasury of the United States into the pockets of twelve private interests? And now with their puppet on his way to Pennsylvania Avenue, all the ‘no more torture’ and ‘close Guantanamo’ rhetoric would die off in the practicalities of solidifying the asset transfer.

The Operators all received confirmation of their promised bonus payments at an evening dinner on the third night of their off-site. The payments were a combination of gold, bonds from Australia, Canada, and Norway, and a small equity stake in the firms controlled by the Shareholders. All funds were placed into trusts domiciled in Lichtenstein. They were all sternly reminded that the money was theirs with a condition. If any of them ever spoke of The Enterprise or any activities undertaken thereby, all trusts would be confiscated. If they played their cards right, they’d all weather Phase III with more money than virtually any other person on the planet."

"The Presidency they bought was the Obama Presidency, in case you were wondering..."


BACKGROUND
Dr. David E. Martin is a business founder, public policy advisor, and foresight communicator... & now a novel-writer
From his pioneering work in unstructured data analysis and linguistic genomics to his ground-breaking work in global finance and ethics, his life experience obtained in over 120 countries is woven into his first novel, Coup d'Twelve.

" One of his many activities seems to be developing a new currency to replace the US Dollar - Let's hear more about that!"
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Friday, July 20, 2012 - 10:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"One of his many activities seems to be developing a new currency to replace the US Dollar - Let's hear more about that!"

I warned you
the whole thing collapses and the dollar ain't worth shiate
Maybe they put Obama on the new bill
'bama bucks.
make it the new TANF / EBT -
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Moxnix
Posted on Friday, July 20, 2012 - 11:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Tin foil hat firmly in place.

Anonymous syndicates operate all around us, all around the U.S., all around the world. Those folks think of themselves as having various grades of guilt, the most guilty ready to pass the blame to those "little people" doing the leg work if and when the curtain is pulled back. But, one is as evil as the next since all are complicit in the same act.

Life is undemocratic. That is the only lesson man ever learns from history.

To catch a sinner, you must find the sinner in yourself. Thus speaks me, self appointed official complainer for the High Holy Church of Political Rectitude.

The book sounds like a decent read.
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Geedee
Posted on Friday, July 20, 2012 - 06:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Check out World Federalist Association
Check out some of its members

Check out World government

Joseph Smith Main article:
Theodemocracy

Theodemocracy was a theocratic political system that included elements of democracy. It was theorized by Joseph Smith, Jr., founder of the Latter Day Saint movement (Mormonism). According to Smith, theodemocracy was meant to be a fusion of traditional republican democratic rights under the United States Constitution with theocratic principles.

In early 19th century Mormon theology,Joseph Smith taught that a theodemocracy would guide and direct the Kingdom of God (Zion) on the earth during the end times. On March 11th, 1844, Smith organized a Council of Fifty, who were to work under the direction of the Priesthood authorities of his church, along with a Council of Friends. This group of three organizations was expected to rule as a world government just prior to the Millennium.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_government

http://truthandgrace.com/Assemblyonmormon.htm

"Romney's foreign policy views are rooted in the belief in American exceptionalism and the need to preserve American supremacy in the world.[264] This parallels the Mormon belief that the United States Constitution is divinely inspired and that the U.S. was selected by God to play a special part in human history.[346] Indeed, Romney's political beliefs regarding a limited role for government, a need for self-reliance, and requirements for welfare recipients, often reflect Mormon tenets adapted for the secular world.[346][347]"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitt_Romney


When Karl Marx wrote the Communist Manifesto he referred to a [quote] "Democracy being the perfect form of Communism."

Mitt Romney seems the perfect man to lead you into the next phase of the agenda, which is running a little behind schedule. He obviously has a belief system that could be used, then he could be cast aside. Just saying, don't know, but I'll be watching Onion News for updates.
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Moxnix
Posted on Friday, July 20, 2012 - 07:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well, if the choice is between a crypto-cultist Mormon out for revenge because his father lost the nomination to Nix On Nixon, and that rather amusing man of questionable history who is busy being a complete history lesson within his fake storming teacup of experience and knowledge, I'll vote for the Romney.

On the other hand, should any third party put up an inanimate object unable to sign executive orders, I'll vote for it.

(Message edited by moxnix on July 20, 2012)
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Geedee
Posted on Friday, July 20, 2012 - 07:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

When caught between a rock and a hard place, I reluctantly have to agree with you Moxnix. I guess I should just stop looking under every rock.

"quid erit, erit"

Leaning to the right :-)

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Aesquire
Posted on Friday, July 20, 2012 - 08:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

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Aesquire
Posted on Friday, July 20, 2012 - 09:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ok... youtube has defeated me.

Please click on the playlist bar at the bottom of the above video, and watch the "That Looks Bad" video.

That's the one I wanted to share.
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Friday, July 20, 2012 - 09:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I actually applaud the decision that it is a 'tax' - because it IS.
I just hope it creates enough angst against it that on parallel with the Tea in the Harbor, and we can biatch slap the contemporary Tories back off the continent.
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Moxnix
Posted on Friday, July 20, 2012 - 10:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ex communist KGB agent Putin won election and instituted a simple flat tax of 13%. Within 2 years of enforcement, money began rolling into the Russian coffers.

Pssssssst, Red Barry: Russia won the Cold War. Perhaps you, Pelosi and Reid, as the "Gang of Three," should have given that a try when you controlled the Presidency, House and Senate.
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Aesquire
Posted on Friday, July 20, 2012 - 11:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

They couldn't.

The concept of using taxes to reward and punish is very deeply ingrained. A flat or even simple regressive ( higher rates on higher incomes ) tax does not give the power that a complex system does. ( I'll skip the lawyer and tax industry lobbies )

Take as a given that any government will need vast sums of money to just build and maintain the physical stuff we want to keep civilization going. Things like roads, police, and armed forces take scads of taxes, now, in Rome, in a Space habitat...

Income, fees, consumption, some combination of taxes is needed. Period. Adolescent fantasy aside, we need the darn taxes. ( says mr. Obvious )

A logical thing would be to adjust the tax rates to give maximum revenue for minimum pain to the taxpayer. If the Laffer Curve and the assumptions it holds are correct, we should experiment with the percentages in a methodical way, guided by results, not policy, to determine the optimum load on the payer.

This isn't economics, it's simply smart business.

Also, a science should IMHO be subject to experiment, or multiple observations... It would be interesting to prove or disprove the Laffer Curve just for the sake of Science!

Economics as such a "science" I find dubious at best from it's lack of capacity for forecasting. ( I also feel that way about most of the soft sciences... the ones with little or hard to do experimental aspects. ( human behaviour studies are a prime example that Heisenberg's Uncertainty principle applies in other fields... )

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laffer_curve

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncertainty_principle
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Saturday, July 21, 2012 - 01:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

economic models in and of themselves are not good at forecasting
when you take into account past precedence, society relevance, and projected constants, you get a good picture of what it could look like....
but it is really not much better than weather guessing. .... but would you want to know a flood is coming before the rain starts.... or after the dam breaks ?...

Past performance predicts pizz poor proclivity.
The S&L scandal, Enron, Dot.com, Housing Crisis.... and the impending collapse from the Health/Social/Entitlement chaos - all well documented in other relevance - as long as you ignore the talking heads out of the main stream media.

It crashes.
Look no further than the entitlement weight of the USSR when they 'lost' Afghanistan - it showed the chink in their totalitarian armor and they were sunk
Our experience from being involved in Afghanistan will fair no better.
China is on the rise, on our continued course - we are done.

(says the econ geek)
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Fb1
Posted on Saturday, July 21, 2012 - 04:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I actually applaud the decision that it is a 'tax' - because it IS.
I just hope it creates enough angst against it that on parallel with the Tea in the Harbor, and we can biatch slap the contemporary Tories back off the continent.


+1
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Moxnix
Posted on Saturday, July 21, 2012 - 11:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Allegedly an ad on Craigslist in the DC area:

FIFTY YEAR OLD MANURE SPREADER - $1 (WASHINGTON, DC)

Fifty-year old manure spreader. Not sure of brand. Said to have been produced in Kenya. Used for a few years in Indonesia before being smuggled into the US via Hawaii.
Of questionable pedigree. Does not appear to have ever been worked hard. Apparently, it was pampered by various owners over the years. It doesn't work very often, but
when it does it can sling shit for amazing distances. I am hoping to retire the manure spreader this November. I really don't want it hanging around getting in the way.
I would prefer a foreign buyer to relocate the manure spreader out of the country. I would be willing to trade it for a nicely framed copy of the United States Constitution.
Location: Currently being stored in a big white house in Washington, D.C.
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