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     Cityxslicker |
as they say in Ukraine The tax is 'fair' Those that have no money - pay none of it Those that Have lots of money - pay none of it Those in power - pay little to none of it see comrade - you must pay your fair share to make up Its herding - you control the flock by managing the exceptions and scaring the middle into complacency. | ||
| Sifo |
Where the heck was I when they were giving away businesses? I know a number of business owners who are going to really be surprised that someone else built their businesses. We NEED better leadership. | ||
| Cityxslicker |
I will concede that 'You didn't build that' for very few cases is true. If you are an inventor that creates and item, and it NEVER sells - you created that. IF it sells, and you make money - it is because you were able to convince people that your product and service was worth while to the extent that they gave you money they earn else where for it. Without customers, indeed, you cant build a business - he however is more pointing to the Great Uncle Joe ideal that you were able to build what ever you got because the GOVERNMENT 'LET' you. I have dealt with the government enough to know, that you succeed INSPITE of them, not because of them. The IP in my head is mine - Komrade Obama can kindly go F^ck himself | ||
| Moxnix |
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| Moxnix |
"Enjoy the hospitable entertainment of a political graveyard." Henry L. Clinton, Apollo Hall, New York City, February 3, 1872 | ||
| Fb1 |
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| Fb1 |
Obama and his people are lying? Say it isn't so!  | ||
| Aesquire |
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2174160/Ob ama-says-wealthy-ARENT-responsible-success.html | ||
| Cityxslicker |
"Working with Mexico: The Administration is working with the Government of Mexico to disrupt the transnational criminal organizations that traffic illicit drugs, weapons, and bulk cash, and the interdiction of illicit weapons. These unparalleled efforts have yielded real results. Over the past two and a half years, DHS seized 75 percent more currency, 31 percent more drugs, and 64 percent more weapons along the Southwest border compared to two and a half years of the previous administration."..... "Fewer people attempt to illegally cross our borders: Apprehensions of illegal aliens decreased from nearly 724,000 in FY 08 to approximately 463,000 in FY 10, a 36 percent reduction, indicating fewer people are attempting to illegally cross the border. We must continue our efforts to secure the border and protect communities in the Southwest so that these trends continue." From :http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/rss_ viewer/immigration_blueprint.pdf There's a few broken syllogisms there .... I can't fathom the conscience of the person that put that in text. | ||
| Fb1 |
Where the heck was I when they were giving away businesses? I know a number of business owners who are going to really be surprised that someone else built their businesses. We NEED better leadership. Sifo, I managed to find a longer video segment of this part of his speech, to better determine if maybe his words were taken out of context. Nope. Not only that, he was flailing around, figuratively and literally, seemingly amped on the anti-business/anti-American propaganda that was spewing from his mouth. Perhaps his teleprompter was broken. Again. I agree with you: We NEED better leadership. Here's a relevant editorial:
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| Court |
He's simply and embarrassment to anyone and everyone who has ever taken a risk and worked hard. It's a shame we are displaying to world the least among our number. We deserve better leaders to get this country off the tit of relying on government for everything. I say . . . as more folks, for the first time ever, opted to claim disability (getting paid to sit on their ass and avoid the "must be actively seeking work" requirement) rather than file for unemployment. The numbers are abysmal. We need to be creating, and can create, something like 300,000 jabs per month . . .nearly 4 years of "Hope and Change" (no kidding, some bought into that line of bullshit) he stands there and espouses his pride about 80,000 per month. Clueless . . is a gross understatement. This guy is patently incompetent. I have been entertained as he, after placing Jeffrey Imelt in charge of "jobs" . . . . spews this ridiculous "Bain outsourced jobs" chatter. G.E., under Imelt's guidance, has something like 277 factories in 43 countries, made, and kept overseas to avoid taxes, billions in revenue and paid not $0.01 in U.S. Federal Income taxes. Wow | ||
| Reindog |
Court, gmail sent. | ||
| Reindog |
Erik Buell did not build BMC nor EBR. The Marcy's and Al and Joanne did not build American Sport Bike. Nice to know. Romney is pro business and the private sector will respond positively if elected. When are Progressives and Democrats going to understand this basic truth and wake up? | ||
| Oldog |
The latest absurdity in this election cycle, Obama camp claims that Romney broke the law, when he left Bain capital, to Work on the olympics, committee. The douches, are saying that he was still at "Bain, outsourcing jobs" and miss-led the folks at the S.E.C. A number of dems at Bain and other places are saying "Not So" Even CNN is calling it a "mistake" looks like the press that was so enamored with BHO-le is starting to get it. ABO | ||
| Mtjm2 |
Will we soon here of hundreds of (SHOVEL READY JOBS) ? I think not . And to think that Eric would start EBR in this economic climate . Thanks President O, for EBR. NOT!!!! | ||
| Fb1 |
Clueless . . is a gross understatement. This guy is patently incompetent. Or........maybe not. What if all of this is deliberate??? | ||
| Reindog |
You pretty smart guy, FB1. Of course, Obama is deliberate. He knows and believes everything that he says and does. The man is beyond a Socialist. The man emulates King George. At his whim, he simultaneously makes laws and ignores laws that Congress passes. The saddest part is the multitude of fools who support him and grab the ankles of massa for "free" breadcrumbs which further enslave them into dependency. We are in big trouble, folks. It would be refreshing if people who disagree with me chime in. Pony Up For Mitt. Right here and Right now | ||
| Cityxslicker |
he is following Lenin's 'What is to be Done' like a road map - wicket for wicket. thing is - he is blind to history, economics, free human nature and American Heritage. I hope it fully bites him in the azz in NOvember..... but when he has hired the company that is counting the votes - I have little faith. | ||
| Geedee |
Maurice Strong, U.N. environmental leader: “Isn’t the only hope for the planet that the industrialized civilizations collapse? Isn’t it our responsibility to bring that about?” "Maurice Strong, born in Canada, lived in New York, and now exiled in China, but still the power behind Obama and the liberal House and Senate of America. He is a huge political donor, not just here in Canada, but to both the Republican and Democratic parties in the U.S. as well." The Commission on Global Governance, founded in 1992 at the suggestion of former West German Chancellor and socialist Willy Brandt. Maathai worked on the CGG alongside Maurice Strong, Jimmy Carter and Robert McNamara. The group’s manifesto, “Out Global Neighborhood,” calls for a dramatic reordering of the world’s political power – and redistribution of the world’s wealth. It is not the elected who hold the power. | ||
| Reindog |
Geedee, What you are preaching is that there is nothing we can do so we should go back to sleep. I reject what you are saying. America can fix its problems because we are special. Sorry outlanders. But time is running short. | ||
| Fb1 |
Tom, Geedee is on our side. He's pointing out, IMO, that Obama is not the root of our current problems, and I agree 100%. The destruction of our Republic is, IMO, the result of decades of planning and incremental changes by aggressive folks wiht bad intentions who want to dominate the world, mostly taking place behind our backs, always in the name of warm and fuzzy this and that, but always in small steps so as to not alarm the populace too badly. Obama's election in '08 is nearly the final piece of the puzzle. He has run roughshod over the Constitution, lately seemingly at will and with seemingly zero accountability. The media, mostly, hasn't vetted him on his failed presidency (the "guerrilla" media, i.e. the internet media, being an honorable and welcome exception...), and anymore he doesn't even really try to cover his lies or his slime trail; he's proven that he can pretty much get away with ANYTHING, including, perhaps, intimidating a Supreme Court justice... Obama is NOT our root problem, anymore than fatigue and loss of appetite is the root problem of stage IV metastatic lung cancer. But...........getting him out of office come November IS the only chance we have of fighting the cancer. Romney is a conservative businessman with strong American values and, by all fair accounts, is scrupulously scrupulous. Obama, as even his most ardent groupies know by now, is not. He has finally been vetted, via every step of his horribly failed presidency. He has been weighed, measured, and found wanting in the extreme. With Romney as President, we have a fighting chance. Giving Obama another four more years (or, shudder, maybe he decides he'd like to be our king for life), will deal the final death blow to our Republic. It's really that simple. Many of Obama's supporters, based on stuff I hear and read, love the guy because they're paying us back for something. If they were honest, I think even they would admit that he's an enemy to America. However, their sense of entitlement for something seems to override their sense of loyalty and honor to our country and the people who bled and died to create it. In a country where a man or woman, regardless of skin color, can become ANYTHING they want to become (including President), it's hard to imagine what we're being paid back for, yet... I'm with Geedee; I think he's trying to get us, in his own way, to look deeper than the bleeding ulcer we see on our arm. Yes, there's an ulcer there, and it certainly needs to be excised NOW. But, that ulcer indicates a much worse systemic problem just beneath the skin, and THAT problem needs to be addressed, too. ("That" problem, by the way, is in large part the United Nations. For anyone who doubts this, Google "United Nations" and "gun control" and get back to me...) With Romney as President, our republic has a fighting chance. It will at least buy us some time, and MAY be the first step in achieving a lasting remission. Who knows, Romney may even go down in history as a great President. At this point, however, I'd even settle for good. At least he believes in the American people and our uniquely American values. With Obama as president for another term, our American republic, the greatest form of government this planet has ever seen, created at great effort and sacrifice for OUR benefit, not the government's benefit, will perish from this earth, probably never to be seen again. Blake, where are you? Where are the folks who send me private e-mails applauding my conservative political presence here on the board? Court, you posted last night, and then within seconds deleted your comment. Erik? I know you're a conservative. People will give a lot more weight to YOUR words than they will mine. The folks on the fence in this coming election - honest, hard-working Americans who voted for Obama in '08 but who are now beginning to realize they were duped in the worst possible way - need to hear from YOU, too. Either we're all in, or we're all done. Ferris | ||
| Geedee |
"What you are preaching is that there is nothing we can do so we should go back to sleep." Not at all Reindog, but by your own admission, America has been asleep. For 100 years now, and while it has been, traitors have gotten into bed with you, but you know that. "I reject what you are saying." Good. That gives me some hope. "America can fix its problems because we are special. Sorry outlanders. But time is running short." I agree. Here is a link to an article I think is worth reading: http://www.nccs.net/articles/ril71.html "This means, in effect, that the PEOPLE can operate through Congress to bring the system back into line. If the people, through knowledgeable, good judgment, select members of Congress who have the courage to act, the Founders' system can be restored." "who have the courage to act" Who are they going to be? Who will kill the Federal Reserve? The Founding Fathers never set up a system whereby a privately owned bank issued credit to the country, to be repaid with interest. How can the debt ever be repaid if the interest is never in existence? How can Congress function when it is beholden to the Federal Reserve for funds to operate? Who will bite the hand that feeds it? Mitt Romney doesn't plan on it. Ron Paul wanted to, which is probably why he's gone from the running. Lincoln wanted to. Kennedy tried and died. Nobody heeded Dwight D. Eisenhower's exit speech on Jan.17,1961, warning of the threat of the military industrial complex, nor Kennedy warning of the same thing. What is the point of The Constitution if International treaties supersede US law, since they become US law? Well they can't, unless you are talking of the other constitution. Aesquire said "I don't really see the point in the "corporate" aspects of the country?" Really? The Founding Fathers didn't set up a 'Corporate Country'. The UNITED STATES of AMERICA CORPORATION came afterwards, with it's own constitution, now firmly domiciled in Washington DC. Washington DC isn't even part of America. It is aligned with City of London and The Vatican. Go and find out what that is all about. That is the corporation you are soon to vote a new company president for. Corporate funded Government is Fascism, also known as National Socialism. The UNITED STATES debt is not yours. It is the CORPORATION debt, which is what they owe you, the people. Ask them for your share now. "Pony up and donate $3 to Mitt's campaign." That $3, created out of thin air by the Federal Reserve is now due back with interest and just increased the corporate debt which is claimed you owe. Brilliant! So tell me, how does cutting government spending, saving money, increasing taxes, increasing sales tax or anything else, fix anything? It doesn't, it's all smoke and mirrors. I've posted links and articles, nearly all produced by your fellow Americans, talking, explaining, educating and informing of what has been and is going on in America, how it is part of a global agenda and tied in to world events. America is in the way of the NWO, and the NWO is being driven in part by "fat cat 'Americans'" who made or inherited their wealth from the opportunities afforded by the Founding Fathers. The same cats who go in and out of the government/corporate revolving door. The same cats who hold duel citizenships, or are domiciled outside America. The CFR, The Trilateral Commission, Bilderbergers etc. "If the people, through knowledgeable, good judgment, select members of Congress who have the courage to act, the Founders' system can be restored." That's the Founders' system, not the one you currently have. The system where people are sovereign, not corporations and not government. "In a Republic, the sovereignty resides with the people themselves. In a Republic, one may act on his own or through his representatives when he chooses to solve a problem. The people have no obligation to the government; instead, the government is a servant of the people, and obliged to its owner, We the People. Many politicians have lost sight of that fact. A Constitutional Republic has some similarities to democracy in that it uses democratic processes to elect representatives and pass new laws, etc. The critical difference lies in the fact that a Constitutional Republic has a Constitution that limits the powers of the government. It also spells out how the government is structured, creating checks on its power and balancing power between the different branches." So tell me, what's all the BS about Left and Right? Republicans and Democrats are both in the pay of transnational corporations which owe no allegiance to America. What's all the division between Badweb members who have an opinion that differs from someone else? What's all the BS about business owners and workers and bludgers and lazy people and rich cats? You had the best devised system of government ever offered, and while you were asleep dreaming the American Dream, an imitation replaced it. Stop playing their rules and chuck the Corporate Federal Government out. You can do that. Make corporate lobbying illegal, vote out career politicians and hold Congress accountable. Fact is, Presidents have no Constitutional authority to do most of the things they claim they can do. They can only ask the Congress to do what they want. And tell the Kissinger, Soros, Strong, Rockefeller et al. contingent to take a hike, nobody voted for them. | ||
| Reindog |
Obama jabbers about business PJTV Trifecta: "Obama went off his teleprompter and revealed his true feelings about American business. Unlike President Coolidge, who thought that the business of the American people is business, President Obama thinks that the business of the American people is government. Is Obama right? Does business exist to serve government?" (Message edited by reindog on July 18, 2012) | ||
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| Reindog |
This was sent to me by a friend who owns and has built a business... Sure am glad that we all understand that long hours, hard work, taking investment risks, and giving something 100% doesn't count in the US. Only our collective efforts count, right comrade? That has historically always worked out well, hasn't it... So my question is, when will everyone else be building businesses so that we can get out of this miserable economy? It should be a walk in the park since "someone else made that happen" already. The roads are already there, the internet is there, we’ve been well-educated, right? Finally we have a plan to get America back to work - and who knew that it was so easy! I'm guessing that Mr. Obama and certain members Democratic party members will be starting up a few businesses up once they’ve finished their work in the government. Ones that don't rely on taxes, but instead pay the taxes. I'm really looking forward to seeing what they come up with - I'm sure that the bureaucratic red tape won't slow them down a bit. I’m sure they'll be paying their "fair share" of taxes, of course, so we all can benefit from the infrastructure, education, police and fire that their taxes will provide. They’ll no doubt be rescinding the government pensions and government health care benefits that they currently have in the interest of “fair play.” But since their company will be providing that, they should have no worries. Actually, I would LOVE to see more businesses centered around clean energy. Ones that can make it on their own (not with taxpayer money or favors for political donations), where they play on the same field as all the other start-ups. Since clean energy is something that is typically aligned with the Democratic party (even though Republicans and Independents would like to see it too), perhaps they can start there. Even taken in full context, that is a very offensive, class-warfare speech. I completely agree that teachers, mentors, parents, and our collective efforts (roads, libraries, defense, etc) benefits everyone. And I don't have problems paying taxes for those kind of things, when warranted. In fact, I’d like to see more people pay taxes to support those things – everyone should have some skin in the game. But instead of bringing this country together, we see our dear leader vilifying the taxpayers in an effort to divide and conquer. Hopefully enough people can see that speech for what it is and will vote accordingly. | ||
| Court |
Always reminds me of the 1977 piece in the Wall Street Journal by Louis Rukeyser (yeah, I like it so much in 1977 that I saved it) . . it was call "Success Offends Bureaucrats" It wasn't until I recently met and listened to Eric Holder recently at Columbia that I saw what was happening. . . .where he and fellow Columbia grad Obama . . got their lazy , looking for a hand out ways. Both these guys were PUT into schools they could not otherwise have attended if they'd had to apply and get in on their own merits. I listened as Holder was introduced and from the moment he graduated he was appointed, never applied and was accepted, but appointed ( as in handed in an effort to "seek diversity") jobs in government. Both he and the Big O . . moved up and moved up but they were always gently lifted, in the name of equality and equal opportunity, and placed on top of the box, they never had to compete, work or climb. The fact that they are clueless about business, integrity and self reliance no longer confounds nor confuses me. They are not, by nature, lazy, they just have no sense of the correlation between hard work and sacrifice and success. In their world success is something that someone, armed with federal grant money, gives you. It really is a pathetic situation. Holder is a serial liar and Obama . . . by his own admission in his books . . has a habit or "creating characters and modifying the serial order of events to embellish the story" . . and who, before they've done a damn thing in life, writes TWO autobiographies. Misplaced and unfounded hubris of the highest degree. | ||
| Reindog |
It would be interesting to see Obama's academic transcripts and thesis. Where is Daniel Ellsburg now that we need him? |
