| Author | Message | ||
     Cowboy |
FB1 I am guessing June 19th. | ||
| Reepicheep |
Tom_b, if you run a business you surely can't be that blind to the math. For the last 40+ years, the federal government has been collecting money that was supposed to be in a "lock box" to cover the costs. Its gone. Every last penny. The government pays out current SS obligations with people paying into the current system... money that should be put away to pay back the people paying in now. The whole program is running at a huge deficit. If an ethical private entity had run the same program, it would be absolutely swimming in profits. Like Court said, take peoples money, invest it and get a 4% return (which you can easily do safely all day long) and use it to pay them back. Given that you get no benefit if you die, the program should be awash in profits. But not when the federal government runs it. Try running your own business this way. Tell people to buy your stock at $10 per share. Tell them that in 10 years, you will sell it back to them for $20. When somebody buys a share at $10, use two of those people to pay back whoever is 10 years in and wants their $20 out. Just keep increasing the number of people involved, and borrow money when needed, to keep the whole thing afloat. Try that with your business. You will (literally) be arrested in short order. It's called a Ponzi scheme, and when business do it, they are labelled corrupt criminals (rightfully so). When a federal government does it, nothing changes. The conservative concern about healthcare is not that we don't want the poor to have good health care. It's that we think a federal government run program is the worst possible way to get there. And Social Security is the *perfect* experience to prove it. The Sowell quote above sums it up brilliantly as well. The other concern for me is that I believe in personal freedom *very* strongly. But the moment you ask me to fund *your* health care, I can't afford to let you have personal freedom. If I have to pay your medical bills, you should not be allowed to be at all over weight, you should not be able to eat anything but vegetables and occasional lean meats, you should never be allowed anywhere *near* a motorcycle, you should never touch alcohol or illegal drugs, and you should do 30 minutes a day of mandatory excercise. Oh, and you better not have a car, a TV, cable, internet, a house, or a cell phone. If you have that, you have excess money and don't need to be taking mine. I find exercising those kinds of control over another human being morally abhorrent. But if you are going to force me to pay for their care, I need to exercise them to as large a degree as possible. | ||
| Reindog |
Sometimes, everything is not going to be fine. Don't be lulled to sleep by some here whose agenda is to have the Government grow bigger. The only chance is to vote Liberals and Progressives out of office. You can start by supporting Romney who at the very least will restore confidence back to the private sector. I just donated several hundred dollars to the Romney campaign. Step up. Donate here | ||
| Xdigitalx |
It is pretty obvious,.. this healthcare bill has just as many good things as bad things going on about it,... probably more bad than good and lots still unknowing.. those facts, plus the way it was forced into law without reading it and understanding it fully is reason enough to have Romney repeal it. Until a percentage higher than 65 approves of it. Keep things as there were until then. PERIOD!! I will be donating to REPEAL it for sure. | ||
| Pwnzor |
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| Fb1 |
- Lawrence Kudlow, June 30, 2012, http://patriotpost.us/opinion/13983 | ||
| Blake |
"$8 million" is typo; should be "$80 million"? Liars and deceivers suck. The Roberts reasoning is so absurd that it seems to carry a message all its own, one like "I have been coerced". Roberts refused to extend to congress further power via the commerce clause, but decided that a penalty on some is really a tax instead and that congress can coerce us any way it likes, so long as they do so through such a penalty scheme, err I mean "tax"? Even the socialist judges didn't agree with that reasoning. They wanted the commerce justification which has strong precedent. Does the tax reasoning have any such precedent? The Chicago way wins again. Someone got to Roberts and he is letting us know while still shrewdly limiting | ||
| Blake |
... congress' power under the commerce clause. CBS News says he changed his vote... http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-3460_162-57464549/robe rts-switched-views-to-uphold-health-care-law/ | ||
| Fb1 |
Blake, I've read rumors of this for the past few days, but the CBS article seems to go beyond rumors and be well corroborated. Sucks hard.
We are at a crossroads, America. How much do you treasure your liberty? | ||
| Reindog |
* We have an Executive Branch who makes, not enforces, laws. This same Executive Branch simultaneously chooses not to enforce laws at its own discretion. The Legislative Branch remains silent. * We have a Legislative Branch which refuses to perform its Constitutional duty of making a budget for well over 1000 days for political reasons of "safety". This same Legislative Branch passes a clearly un-Constitutional bill which greatly expands the power of the IRS and multiple bureaucracies in the name of "fairness". * We have a Judicial Branch which found a way to linguistically jump through a convoluted hoop to justify the unjustifiable. In essence, it has granted unlimited power to the Government. ---- And some of you here on Badweb say everything is OK and complain about "Right Wing hysteria"? I am incredulous and not so respectfully reply that the Left and Progressives ARE the problem with America. ---- Thank you, FB1, but I suspect there are some fools here who think you are decrying right wing hysterics. We as a People can no longer suffer fools. Our very existence as a People are at stake and all some can do is post little twitterbots in glee. | ||
| Nukeblue |
i can't believe i just donated to romney  they gotta get rid of this thing. the republicans get one chance from me on this. if they don't hit it out of the park when they hopefully get control, i don't know what's next... | ||
| Fb1 |
Kagan’s Participation in ObamaCare Decision May Have Violated Judicial Ethics and Federal Statute
Source: http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/kagans-participat ion-in-obamacare-taints-the-decision Wow, maybe AG Holder will be asked to investigate?!?  | ||
| Reindog |
Way to go, Nukeblue. I, too, am not expecting miracles from Romney, but the insanity and illegal behavior of this current Administration has to be shown the door. If the current person is re-elected, the nation will probably be subjected to a Watergate-like trauma when the Fast and Furious cover up plus the White House leaks all come to light. The current president could easily face impeachment proceedings. I was around for Watergate. Good TV but bad for the country. | ||
| Fb1 |
Tom, do you suppose the Obamas shoot off fireworks with their daughters on Independence Day? I wonder what they've taught their kids regarding the meaning of Independence Day, and why we, as a nation, celebrate this day? | ||
| Reindog |
C'mon Badwebbers. Step up to the plate and donate your money (and your time) to Romney. This means you, Rocco. FB1: The current resident in the White House does not believe in American exceptionalism so why would he teach his children about why the King had to be removed from our body politic? | ||
| Fb1 |
My point exactly. And yet I read today that he will interrupt his vacation (another one?!?) to scurry back to the White House to join in the Independence Day festivities. A liar and a hypocrite. | ||
| Fb1 |
Different Shades of Lipstick on the Same Socialist Pig By Arnold Ahlert · July 2, 2012
Source: http://patriotpost.us/opinion/14000 | ||
| Reindog |
History is a fascinating subject. The real Obama will be eventually revealed by those who can't or won't speak now. The clues are endless: * Does not negotiate with opponents like Johnson, Reagan, and Clinton were so adept at. * Demonizes opponents. * Lies continually. Or should I say, the Truth keeps changing with this guy. Or should I say, "evolving"? * Engages is class, racial, religious, and gender warfare to garner power. * Takes historic levels of vacation and rounds of golf instead of working. * Idolizes the public sector. * Idolizes unions. * Demonizes the private sector which is the source of American wealth. * Hypocritically accepts money from the private sector who want to be lap dogs at his table. * Is so insecure that he had to "spike the football" on the anniversary of the Seal Team Six meeting with Osama bin Laden. * Praises the "democracy" of the Arab Spring including the inauguration of a fanatic as President of Egypt. * Throws Israel under the bus. * Throws Reverand Wright under the bus when cornered. * Throws relatives under the bus. * Hides his academic transcript. * Rose to power in Illinois under suspicious circumstances. * After admitting there was no thing as "shovel ready" jobs, attempts to double down on Governement borrowing and spending. * NEVER TAKES RESPONSIBILITY FOR ANYTHING. It is always someone else's fault: Bush, Europe, the Oil spill, Europe, Iran, ATMs, etc. Not exactly the mark of a leader. * Is so paranoid that he has something to hide in order to help Holder. * Obama just does not like people. Michelle thought of divorcing this community organizer a decade ago. She is glad she didn't so she can now take separate vacations from him at our expense. Need I go on? I am just getting started. The real shame is that some here think this is normal and post little, funny giggly things to show their support of this guy. But this probably needs to skeedaddle over to "President Zero". | ||
| Fb1 |
 [Image source: "What Constitutional Limits Are Left?" http://patriotpost.us/editions/13988] | ||
| Court |
Reindog You left out . . .
The guy is a doozey . . by the way . . his academic transcript is always a fun topic at Columbia faculty meetings. I can't wait till it gets out . . . •••••• idiot. | ||
| Fb1 |
North Carolina Democrat Will Vote To Repeal Obamacare, Will Not Endorse Obama
Source: http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/07/03 /North-Carolina-Democrat-Will-Vote-To-Repeal-Obama care-Will-Not-Endorse-Obama | ||
| Cityxslicker |
States Rights vs Federal Rights - it is the next Civil War ; just as the first - it is the schema of economics, and whether the country would be based and financed on industry/banking vs agriculture/transportation The slaves in the North were paid a wage and told it was freedom, those in the south were attached to the land and were not monetarily compensated Neither is less evil than the other - it is the battle between raising sheep vs raising cattle ; the end result is the same, but you can NEVER graze those two in the same field - and anybody that has tried knows why. Now the issue is self tolerance of work as an end to a life of means, or a means of entitlements as a means of sustinance. Keep your powder dry, and your aim steady. It comes. | ||
| Baf |
Haha, it's amusing how you guys think replacing one wackjob (Obama) with another (Romney) will do any good. Rather than supporting a candidate worth supporting. Have we forgotten that obamacare is based on the same thing romney put in place in Massachusetts? | ||
| Cityxslicker |
Nope, that is part of the lie, they game it from both sides; you will notice that many political parties from one side of the aisle vs the other - receive contributions and donations from the same corporations, sources and PACs it is the grand lie - some times they do it out of the right side of their mouth, other times the left - in anycase - it is all PR and lies - watch their actions, and hints from what is behind the curtain. Obama is a puppet - I worry about who is pulling the strings. | ||
| Aesquire |
Baf, do you think Romney will appoint people who think Mao is the greatest philosopher? Spend 5 trillion$ to give his donors your money? Preach envy and hatred to gain power? Lie about his life, origins, grades, and finances? ( no, maybe, no, and the Chicago guys would tell you. vs. yes, yes, yes, and proven. ) Replacing one wackjob with another is the only way we have any Hope of Change. | ||
| Fb1 |
Baf, you've implied that there's no difference between Mr. Obama and Mr. Romney, either in the men themselves, or their policies and political beliefs and goals for this country. Please elaborate so that I may make a more-informed decision come November. Take your time, and please be thorough. Thanks. | ||
| Fb1 |
Here, perhaps I can assist you with your research:
(Source: Mona Charen, July 6, 2012, http://patriotpost.us/opinion/14038) You're welcome. | ||
| Blake |
Obama is just doing exactly what he said he would do, fundamentally transforming the United States of America. The popular media enabled it. Far more than anyone or anything else, I hold the outrageously corrupt media responsible for the leftist progress in America. What ought liberty respecting Americans do to serve justice and the rule of law? We're doing it. CNN continues to decline, while Fox News continues to rise. If/when the regular over the air Fox broadcast network establishes a national news bureau, might the big three suffer similar a similar fate? I'm going to look into contributing to our local newspaper. Get the facts out. Reveal the lies and corruption. Get folks interested and excited about truth, justice and the American way. Reveal the Chicago way for what it is, criminal. | ||
| Cityxslicker |
I had an op-ed spot with our local paper for the positions on the bill , from the local speaking that I have been doing against it. I turned in 5 articles The editor said he couldn't print any of them I asked Why, they are cited, proven, and sourced. 'It is right wing rhetoric and TEA party extremism - it is not objective journalism' I am NOT a journalist  I suppose the first one 'The Case for Unplugging Granny' may have been too extreme for our older community - but every line of it is right out of the bill or history. | ||
| Court |
I laughed at obama today . . . .the guy is a ••••••• idiot. Worst unemployment numbers in 3 years . . . last week we found out we just had the first month of manufacturing contraction . . . and debt that's likely never going to be paid. . . . .as the guy who promised to cut it in half has just doubled it . . . He strides across the stage today and says . . . . "we're on the right track". You can't get your head any further up your ass. By the way . . . the humor of his pissing about Romney releasing his tax returns wasn't lost on me . . this is a guy who's transcript has been sealed (wait till you see it) and who just invoked executive privilege for something he's "never been aware of ". Hahahahaha . . . . this guy is a hoot. |
