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     Cityxslicker |
Be Happy & Optimistic ! * the Pattern of Language and its propaganda http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/05/21/a-richer- life-by-seeing-the-glass-half-full/ When you 'see' it - you will be pi$$ed enough to burn something down, roll through the ammo in the closet and launch a little rebellion. Until then, do try and tidy up a bit, the last guy left such a mess. | ||
| Moxnix |
Optimism is the opiate of the masses. ~from the quotations of Chairman Mox | ||
| Moxnix |
I've been lame about posting here (lame about much more, but we shall not go into that). Here's some verbage to get the thread back out of the basement, oh ye of more than no faith: It is noteworthy that the cross was not adopted as a symbol of Christianity until long after the death of Jesus. The symbol previously most used was the fish. Christians used the sign of the fish as a secret sign for a long time before the cross came into general usage. When two travelers would meet on a path, one would take his staff and draw an arc in the dirt, if the other responded with an opposite arc drawn through the previous one, then they both knew where each other's faith was. This symbol described is the sign of a fish Pisces Secret Sign or the Sign of Pisces Pisces Star Sign. | ||
| Cityxslicker |
Branding. Great for cults, clubs, unions, corporations and cattle. The Jehovahs Witness church that I was kicked out of at an early age (that should tell you something - I was 9 at the time) did not 'authorize' the wearing of the crucifix. Their logic was that if your son was stabbed to death, you would not wear a dagger around your neck Its branding and farming, one herd trying to convince the other herd they are better, superior, blessed, fortunate, righteous, ordained, saved.... In the end they both end up on the plate. | ||
| Moxnix |
One reason I declined ever getting ink. The identifying scars were not a choice. I've been thinking, friend City, that going through the Russian Orthodox seminary might give you a permanent job in the wilds of Alaska. Orthodox priests can marry, go hunting and fishing, drink, ride motorbikes, and the religious service is not far removed from the genuflections of agnostics, aethiests and political dogmatics of most persuasions. I've watched the Rooskie flick "The Island" on Netflix a couple of times, always enjoy it. There's a decent seminary in Japan. Or maybe Sitka. | ||
| Cityxslicker |
in all of my units that I served in - you were never allowed any ink. Tats are their own form of quick intelligence - having them will give you an indication into group affiliation, location, history, age, and trigger points to break - especially gang tats. ie Best bet, If you are a girl and you have a Hobbes on your ankle .... you were in a Sorority during the 90's The Orthodox Church is tough - they use the Original Language still - Church Slavonic - direct writings, language and accent from the time of St Cyril and the birth of Russian from Greek Orthodox. It fries the noodle. | ||
| Aesquire |
There's a great documentary from "60 Minutes" on the Orthodox Monastery complex on Mt. Athos. http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=7363712n A close relative has converted, so I know a few things... about the Original Church in Greece and elsewhere. The Russian version, I'm less familiar with, but the main Orthodox Church is far closer to the Original Roman one by far than Rome is today. Strict, but not with the same layers of accumulated rules and arguments. ( amazing how exposure to Jesuits makes other faiths seem "unexamined" ) The Orthodox Priests can marry, ( the Roman Church went "celibate" to avoid passing Church Property to clergy's sons ) ride bikes, ( don't recall a Papist issue with that ) and have a drink. ( duh, that's the Mormons with that rule ) The ceremonies in NY seem pretty normal to me.... But I grew up Catholic/Protestant/Anglican and moved on spiritually in response to my adolescent rejection of organized religion. ( the place the most annoying, busybody, anti-religious, atheists stop their journey ) What I know about small town preachers in Alaska is based on Jack London Novels ( a bit obsolete... ) and "Northern Exposure". ( like we should have it so good ) So Alaskan ministries may be a little looser than the Imperial State's. | ||
| Moxnix |
Slow, Faster, Even Faster, Am Schnellsten  Normally, I'd insert a quip at this point. Not today. Haven't had my first cuppa'. | ||
| Mr_grumpy |
Church of England would be much easier than Orthodox. C of E can do just about whatever they like, in English too, & all thanks to Henry VIII. | ||
| Britchri10 |
Cake, or DEATH? Chris C | ||
| Britchri10 |
CofE encapsulated! http://youtu.be/DFyuhTwi_OE Chris C | ||
| Moxnix |
Funny, as in odd, not as in humorous, that zombies are such a popular preoccupation in popular culture, zombie-ism being a "back from the dead" thing, all the while Jesus coming back from the dead as a cornerstone of Christianity is way over the top for the same people. | ||
| Aesquire |
It's not funny at all. Completely understandable. Zombies present a fairly ethics free target for video games and fantasy movies. Voodoo, failed super soldier serum, biowar agent, no matter. Except for the classic "partner bit, so must kill to save group..." dilemma, it's Moral Free. The resurrection of Jesus on the other hand, is all about Morals. | ||
| Mr_grumpy |
Was talking about this with a Jewish friend the other day & he sent me this. Christianity a definition. The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree.. Here's another quote, from one of the "Founding Fathers" The christian religion is a parody on the worship of the Sun, in which they put a man whom they call Christ, in the place of the Sun, and pay him the same adoration which was originally paid to the Sun. - Thomas Paine. I don't call myself Christian, or Jewish or anything for that matter, the nearest description I suppose would be agnostic. It doesn't make me a bad person, I live my life in a more or less moral manner, I don't climb on others backs to get ahead, I try to help where I can, & treat people with the respect they deserve. If that doesn't fit with what your particular religious leader would have you believe, well that's your problem not mine. As the French say "Je suis bien dans ma peau" or "I'm comfortable in my skin". Love Light & Peace to ALL. | ||
| Cityxslicker |
I know enough to know, that I don't know. I also KNOW that anyone claiming to KNOW is lying. Its a matter of faith, and a leap of belief - if you have no faith, no belief, there certainly never is the conclusion of anything more than watching the shell games of motives that people play and the things they name them as they try and game you. | ||
| Moxnix |
Thank you. Faith is belief, and belief in your faith is all it is and all it will ever be, here in the rapidly falling world. I recommend the King James Bible of 1611, unpolluted by the so-called Christians, busy infecting the scripture with their linguistic mistakes. Wait a sec, I'm a so-called Christian. | ||
| Geedee |
http://one-evil.org/people/people_17c_james_i.htm Frank O'Collins has some interesting work. | ||
| Moxnix |
Cut and paste from the site "Letters of Note"-- Writing to his agent, H. N. Swanson, in 1953, detective novelist Raymond Chandler takes a break from penning what would be his final novel, Playback, and parodies science fiction writing — a genre which, judging by the letter's final sentence in particular, he had little time for. Also amusing is the appearance of something, or someone, named "Google" all those years ago. (Source: Selected Letters of Raymond Chandler; Image: Raymond Chandler, via.) 6005 Camino de la Costa La Jolla, California Mar 14 1953 Dear Swanie: Playback is getting a bit tired. I have 36,000 words of doodling and not yet a stiff. That is terrible. I am suffering from a very uncommon disease called (by me) atrophy of the inventive powers. I can write like a streak but I bore myself. That being so, I could hardly fail to bore others worse. I can't help thinking of that beautiful piece of Sid Perelman's entitled "I'm Sorry I Made Me Cry." Did you ever read what they call Science Fiction? It's a scream. It is written like this: "I checked out with K19 on Aldabaran III, and stepped out through the crummalite hatch on my 22 Model Sirus Hardtop. I cocked the timejector in secondary and waded through the bright blue manda grass. My breath froze into pink pretzels. I ••••••• on the heat bars and the Brylls ran swiftly on five legs using their other two to send out crylon vibrations. The pressure was almost unbearable, but I caught the range on my wrist computer through the transparent cysicites. I pressed the trigger. The thin violet glow was icecold against the rust-colored mountains. The Brylls shrank to half an inch long and I worked fast stepping on them with the poltex. But it wasn't enough. The sudden brightness swung me around and the Fourth Moon had already risen. I had exactly four seconds to hot up the disintegrator and Google had told me it wasn't enough. He was right." They pay brisk money for this crap? Ray | ||
| Moxnix |
Hebrews 4:12 King James Version (KJV) For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart. | ||
| Moxnix |
Three blonde men are stranded on one side of a wide river, and don't know how to get across. The first man prays to God to make him smart enough to figure out how to cross the river, so God turns him into a brown haired man and he swims across. The second man prays to God to make him even smarter, so God turns him into dark-haired man and he builds a boat and rows across. Then the third man prays to God to make him the smartest of all, so God turns him into a woman and he walks across the bridge. | ||
| Moxnix |
A well-worn one dollar bill and a similarly distressed twenty dollar bill arrived at a Federal Reserve Bank to be retired. As they moved along the conveyor belt to be burned, they struck up a conversation. The twenty dollar bill reminisced about its travels all over the county. "I've had a pretty good life," the twenty proclaimed. "Why I've been to Las Vegas and Atlantic City, the finest restaurants in New York, performances on Broadway, and even a cruise to the Caribbean." "Wow!" said the one dollar bill. "You've really had an exciting life!" "So tell me," says the twenty, "where have you been throughout your lifetime?" The one dollar bill replies, "Oh, I've been to the Methodist Church, the Baptist Church, the Lutheran Church ...." The twenty dollar bill interrupts, "What's a church?" | ||
| Moxnix |
Ecclesiastes 1:18 He who gathers knowledge gathers pain. Perhaps that is the root of frustration on the part of those who get caught up in political, social, religious or economic discussions hereon. Knowing, one feels the need to step up and point out the shortcomings of the lesser curious for truth, justice and opportunity. He who thinks of the consequences cannot be brave. ~Ingush proverb Well, why else are the armed services, street demonstrations, marches, protests, and whatever could turn foul at the first bang, full of young people? If I were living in the Caucasus, I would be writing fairy tales. ~Chekov, 1888 Because reality is so fluid, it's hard to pin down in the back waters of Old Russia. Was wondering, to no answer, how to pin down moral orthodoxy in today's world. If it's purely by the shear numbers of those claiming to be religious, we are doomed. I'll subtract all Asian metaphysical followings, toss Islam aside on general principles regarding death cults, and focus on Judeao-Christians. Seems small "c" orthodoxy is in the minority. The rest are drama merchants, hovering around the sump with their polluted ideas, idealism & self serving emotional outbursts of indignation for "old school." | ||
| Cityxslicker |
I just cant get past the folly and lie of it all. Industry / Government / Church take a hard look at the way the operate, the way the collect money, advance property, enforce complacency - abhore conflict from their own brand of dogma..... Just cant get past the point, that it is the same lie; from a different point of view. vassels, serfs, chattel, subjects, 'citizens', parisainers -... gears in the machine, leaves of grass, soylent green | ||
| Moxnix |
Of course. It's Lubyanka without all the laughs. All seriousness aside, Christianity was pretty much a "house church" to start, outside the temple, in a garden, if an upstairs flat for a meal and a lesson. Some weeks back a minister who is himself tired of "churches" had a chin wag. He was at a church he attended when young, saw the carton of little plastic wine cups for taking the sacrament. Made in Bengladesh. He envisioned child slave labor, etc., etc., and knew he was taking it all too serious for his own good. Believes we should all just go back to house churches to avoid anything but people's relationships with God. The demise of institutional churches rides along with the advent of psychiatry and psychology to help people out of their emotional sump tank. It used to be that many "problems" of life could be addressed by a conversation with your pastor. Now, those in the preaching professions are too busy doing whatever it is they do to help the flock. They can steer the troubled masses to a "Christian" psychologist who issues absolution at an hourly rate. Going through 40 years of papers to toss out, found notes from a class on what not to do when you're being interrogated: Never volunteer extraneous detail, never tell a direct lie unless you are able to stick it out to the bitter end, et., etc. | ||
| Cityxslicker |
They are still teaching that ;') | ||
| Buellinmke |
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| Moxnix |
Anti-Faith vs. Faith, I love it, as it's why I started this thread. In the daily battle between good and evil happening outside my front door every day, those thems see me as evil, themselves as good. I see it 180 degrees from their viewpoint. I, for one, do not want anyone to go without happiness. Earthly pleasures, fine, if they are not illegal or immoral. That stated with me not declaring what is either. There are laws that man can change, but mere mortals cannot change what God has stated is acceptable. | ||
| Geedee |
There are laws that man can change, but mere mortals cannot change what God has stated is acceptable. Exactly. Those man made 'laws' are really statutes. Legal and illegal cover those, and they apply to persons, all of which are fictions, including Natural Persons. The role of person to a living being is optional. "Therefore, it would appear that the meaning of the word “legal” is “color of law,” a term which Black’s Law Dictionary, Fifth Edition, defines as: Color of law. The appearance or semblance, without the substance, of legal right. Misuse of power, possessed by virtue of state law and made possible only because wrongdoer is clothed with authority of state, is action taken under “color of law.” Black’s Law Dictionary, Fifth Edition, page 241." Lawful and unlawful just are and can't be changed by man. http://www.famguardian.org/Subjects/LawAndGovt/Leg alEthics/LegalVLawful.htm Moxnix, your thread gives me much to think about. I might be wrong, but you may well be interested in this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnDQsS05xiA Gary | ||
| Cityxslicker |
the threat of enternal damnation for moral imturpedute was just a more affective way of controlling the population than putting everyone in jail. If God did not create man, surely man would have invented him. | ||
| Moxnix |
Good stuff, Geedee. I have a Blacks 6th edition from when I filed pro se cases in federal court (to establish a documentation of facts of illegal or corrupt activities as a permanent government record), then take a copy of my investigator's work product down to the local office of the FBI for the Task Force on Political Corruption. Stopped a chap from joining the Clinton administration as HUD sec., but left town... I'll listen to that youtube again with headphones tonight, without my typical interruptions here at the crazy house. Cits, you make my case for avoiding organized religions who game the system for sex, power and money. Besides, jails are big business for private firms here in the US, be a shame to decriminalize pot and cost their Washington, DC, lobbyists money... The closest I come to putting God in a scientific context is "quantum foam." It's everywhere, connecting everything in the universe to every other thing. Every Old Testament prophesy regarding The Messiah has been fulfilled by Jesus, except for what is written in the Book of Revelations. I'm not an eschatologist and will not attempt to explain what is therein. Man invented the image of a white haired, bearded geezer floating in the air creating Adam on the ceiling of the Papist chapel. While God created man in his own image, but appeared to Moses as a burning bush. I understand you have no faith in Jude-Christianity. Plenty don't. As this is a "religious" thread, there is not better place to put forth ideas and beliefs. By my definition, Christianity is a relationship with God. An agnostic or athiest still has a relationship with God, by default, just not an optimal one. Big name "so-called" evangelicals are inbreeding with liberation theologists to do work against good people: http://worldviewweekend.com/worldview-radio/play.p hp?id=showsFlat-21460 |
