| Author | Message | ||
     Crusty |
http://nbcpolitics.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/05/23/ 11834099-arizona-elections-chief-says-satisfied-ob ama-a-citizen?lite | ||
| Johnnymceldoo |
His strategy has worked brilliantly. So much time and effort spent on this issue rather than the issue of his record. Very well played just like he did to the voters who elected him. | ||
| Aesquire |
Just to be clear, no one now living or talking has actually seen his birth certificate? His Forever Campaign has been brilliant at stuff to distract from his actions and record. I'm still giggling that Hillary could not get his BC, it took the circus master Donald to even get a copy of something in public. If that Certificate of Live Birth is legit or not, I leave to others to wonder. I have no info. I also don't know his grades, immigration status, school finance records, or who he's going to throw under the bus for shaming his Forever Campaign. Is Bill Maher forgiven yet for his sins? ( he certainly paid enough to be ) | ||
| Notpurples2 |
Sooooo you're saying the whole "birther" conspiracy was a ploy of the obama campaign? | ||
| Jaimec |
Sadly, he's NOT the first whack-a-doodle I've seen make that claim. Just like Bill orchestrated the whole "adultery" thing when he was President... | ||
| Crusty |
Yes, and John Kerry was really behind the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth. Now that I think of it, there are a few similarities between the Birthers ans the Swift Boaters. Hmmm. | ||
| Just_ziptab |
"Packaging" and "marketing" fools everybody,every time..........cept those with common sense and logic.  | ||
| Iamike |
No, the Swift Boaters were actual companions of his. Yet the main-stream news would post an obvious fraud of a letter about Bush but give dems a complete pass on anything that would make them look bad. | ||
| Madduck |
For those that are still interested: The original "Birther" has been identified. The year was 1991 and it was the new grads publisher rep. The bio containing the Kenyan birth was available on their website till 2007. See source here http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/OTUS/born-kenya-oba mas-literary-agent-misidentified-birthplace-1991/s tory?id=16372566 Now the conspiracy hunt begins. | ||
| Cityxslicker |
obviously powerful and rich supporters don't care. the game of politics is the ••••• that goes to whomever has the deepest pockets. To expect any truth transparency or 'justice' is a fools dream. its all about the money, them making theirs, them taking yours. as soon as you distill it to that - they are nothing more than play ground bullies that want your lunch money - and should be treated with the same respect (and punishment) | ||
| Johnnymceldoo |
Evil racist redneck teabaggers picking on the prez cause his father was African is a much better story for a campaign than having light shed on someone who brags and gets kudos for recreational drug use in their past but goes after states for medical marijuana laws. | ||
| Hybridmomentspass |
how about when his wife said in an interview how his homeplace was Kenya? I apologize, I dont remember exactly her phrasing, but it was like that and not to be misunderstood. Some things that she has said could be taken out of context, so I wont really comment on that, people say things sometimes and it comes out wrong from what they meant. But I dont see how 'homeland' or whatever term she used could be misunderstood. I dont know where he was born. It truly doesnt matter now, he's in office. I care about what he'll do, if anything (given his record on Gitmo etc). Even if he wasnt born here there are people who wouldnt let that be leaked out for fear of the embarrassment. Think of it - the head of our country isnt even from here? We'd be the laughing stock of the world (if we arent already to some). Its whatever. He's here, I just hope he can pull through on some things and fix some of the wrongs that are currently in place. Im not holding my breath, but who knows. I am glad he put a limit on the oil speculators. | ||
| Gunut75 |
I like what Cityx said. | ||
| Aesquire |
Sooooo you're saying the whole "birther" conspiracy was a ploy of the obama campaign? "Never let a crisis go to waste" The deal with the Birth certificate is simple. When Hillary ( so SHE gets credit for the Birther movement ) asked for proof Barack was an American, she was denied, and blown off. Nancy Pelosi "certified" BHO as legit. But we didn't get to read it after we "passed" it. It took Trump and his publicity stunt to promote his TV show to get the Obama Forever Campaign to release ANY paperwork. ( is that pdf file, which is ALL you get legit? Your call, I don't know. ) BY "creating" the "birther movement" the Forever Campaign changed a handful of people, ( true, including some right wing looney talk show hosts ) who wondered why the smartest guy ever to run for Prez would NOT give Hillary, the anointed next President, his BC, into a crazed nut group. Just as the Kerry Campaign tried to destroy the reputations of anyone who spoke out against him. So, yes. Obama created the question by not releasing any documentation that he is a legit candidate. Then used the questions about his legitimacy to create a fake conspiracy. That lets him marginalize ANYONE who questions his magnificence. Its even in His and Hillary's bibles, "Rules For Radicals" by Alinsky. It's the preferred technique to silence your enemies. It works, as some here show quite well. Obama and his minions, publishers, etc. have lied about where he was born. It was more romantic to be a young writer born in Kenya, so that's what Obama's blurb on his publishers teaser sheets read. For 16 years. While possible that that was a mistake, it's pretty obvious that Barry Dunham, prep school dude from Hawaii, isn't as sexy in the lefty social scene as Barack Hussien Obama, born in Kenya, raised in Indonesia and Hawaii...... If I had to bet cash, I'd go with deliberately trying to sex up his own resume. It could also be a mistake from his publisher, but for 16 years? They kept publishing their list. You're telling me Barack does not pay attention to any of his own publicity? A guy widely suspected of clinical narcissism doesn't read his own book advertisements? Really? For 16 years? What is obvious is that Barry Dunham, Hawaiian preppy, hanger on with the most radical professors he could find, wanted to have a cool image, and certainly didn't let truth get in his way, not then, not now. We still don't know his grades, his SAT's, how he paid for college, why it took so long to pay off his loans, etc. We DO know he will brand anyone who questions him as a conspiracy nut, or racist, or anti woman, or all of the above. so, yeah, the IDEA of "Birthers" as fools who fail to see the brilliance of the One, is, indeed, part of the Obama Forever Campaign. You got it. Or blame Hillary. | ||
| Aesquire |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6M7Rp_Ghv6k Michelle's "his home country in Kenya" comment. Seems like a simple displacement of "home country" for "ancestral lands" or however you want to put it. NOT proof of Barry's birthplace. While we're at it Obama's "57 states" line makes it plain he "believes" that there are 60. ( 57 + one left to go + Hawaii & Alaska that his staff wouldn't let him go to....) Really, if you can't tell he's joking...... I understand you can rent a life. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6M7Rp_Ghv6k I don't really want to defend this dude. But just as I defended GWB against lies about him, while complaining about stuff I disliked, ( like spending too much money, the Homeland Security Agency, the TSA, the.....) fair is fair. | ||
| Sifo |
It was more romantic to be a young writer born in Kenya, so that's what Obama's blurb on his publishers teaser sheets read. For 16 years. While possible that that was a mistake, it's pretty obvious that Barry Dunham, prep school dude from Hawaii, isn't as sexy in the lefty social scene as Barack Hussien Obama, born in Kenya, raised in Indonesia and Hawaii...... If I had to bet cash, I'd go with deliberately trying to sex up his own resume. I've heard an author comment on author bios. Publishers don't just make up facts about authors. They may gather facts and send it to the author to be verified though. If there was a "mistake", it was blessed by BO. BO has quite a history of remaking himself to fit the needs of the moment. You could say he weaves a tangled web. There was also the interview with his grandmother in Kenya. She also said that she remembered him being born in Kenya. The ridiculous thing about the whole birther thing is that it could have been so easily verified. Instead BO made the decision to spend a sizable fortune fighting verification efforts in the court system. I think that speaks volumes about BO. | ||
| Reindog |
Coupled in with the sealing of Obama's transcripts and academic works, people who continue to support Obama are simply fools...or worse. Take a look at the www.whitehouse.gov website and the thumbnails on US Presidents. This megalomaniac has added himself to the biographies of presidents since approximately FDR. People who continue to support Obama are simply fools...or worse. Signing off for now. I am hopping on my cop Uly in ten minutes to wind our way up to Miller for the races near Salt Lake City. Al Lighton is saddling up with me and we are going to carve up Utah and Nevada on the adventure. | ||
| Drkside79 |
Rein i didn't know you were a cop. | ||
| Kyrocket |
My question is; what f'n difference does it make? Really? One of two things are going to happen; 1, God forbid, he'll get re-elected to another four years and four years later people will still be talking about where he was or wasn't born. 2, he'll get beat in the next election and in a week you'll forget all about it and wondered why you even cared. If it was proven, tomorrow, beyond a shadow of a doubt, with a video tape of a doctor calling out his mother and father by name and saying this is Barrack Housain Obama and we are in Kenya on xx date and at xxx latitude and yyy longitude and posing with a Kenyan newspaper to prove it all, what would happen? Impeachment? I'd bet not. The nation, I'm afraid, has either gotten so soft, so liberal or so appathetic that things in the capitol would go on just as city described. | ||
| Cityxslicker |
3 he gets reelected and discovers the true legacy of Kennedy and Lincoln. they have been painting that box for entirely too long. right down to making him a 'champion' of civil rights with this fiasco of HealthCare reform. | ||
| Madduck |
If there is ever definitive proof that Obama was not qualified to run for President all bills that were signed into law would be null and void. All debts incurred by him could be renounced as proiduct of that fraud. Nancy Pelosi could be prosecuted for felony fraud. The potential ramifications for the world economy is unbelievable. This is not a trivial event and I believe that anyone with that definitive proof could would be detained under the new anti-terrosim laws before action could be taken. | ||
| Aesquire |
http://www.wnd.com/2012/05/publisher-not-only-one- confused-about-obama-birthplace/ At the end of this article, we get as much confirmation as we are probably going to get. It works out to, yep, he's a citizen, and nope, we don't have proof. It's not like he could be impeached before the election. The Senate won't let bills go up that Harry doesn't like, and there are not enough votes to get an impeachment, today, anyway. Just not going to happen. If, and that's a big if, the Senate gets 62 R's and the House gets even more R seats, AND Obama wins re-election, THEN it might be possible to impeach, but it certainly won't happen over his Grandmother's interview with a "Birther" book writer. ( even if she's right ) It could happen over the next flash war the Prez decides to have without asking Congress, OR if Barack is caught strangling a naked preteen on 49th St During the Today Show........ Ok, he'd probably get out of that..... What's today's distraction from Obama's Economy? Did Romney fart in Church, or is Mormon the new curse word? ( I'm wondering when religious hatred kicks in in this campaign.... I mean more than now. | ||
| Sifo |
Impeachment would be a very bad way to resolve anything at this point in time. While there is plenty of reason for people to say that BO is a worse President than even Jimmy Carter, I'm not sure I'm ready for "Biden is even worse than BO". Seriously, would anyone really want to have Biden as President? I would sooner give a four year old a lighter and a gallon of gas. | ||
| Cityxslicker |
He will be elected again - a foreign company is going to be 'certifying' the votes..... one that is already in his pocket. Alas poor America - I knew it Horacio | ||
| Crusty |
If I were you, I'd find a nice totalitarian country that's famous for its pogroms over the past century and move there. It's got to be better than this cesspit of a Republic. | ||
| Hybridmomentspass |
city are you in Ukraine yet? | ||
| Sifo |
I was actually thinking today that the pick of Biden as V.P. may have been a very sly thing to do just to really make people think twice about ever impeaching BO. | ||
| Aesquire |
Worked with Quayle. Worked the opposite way with Cheney. But still worked. Having Hilary as VP would be suicidal. | ||
| Reindog |
Dark one, I ride a cop Uly but that fact doth not maketh me a cop. Al and I have landed in SLC with over a 1000 miles of wind, storms, rain threatening to become snow ao 9800 feet in the clouds, drug sniffing dogs, new roads that you can only imagine, blinding cold rain, and great sushi. Tomorrow, it's the banzai into Miller for AMA and world superbike with Ebear. Life is simply good. | ||
| Cityxslicker |
Nope, still stuck in the lost republic of Amerika Have an interview into Siberia this week though. A nice little 'company' that is working on vaccines and viruses. Middle of freaking nowhere, off the f'n grid. perfect. His 'birth certificate' reminds me entirely too much of the end of Wizard of Oz when the 'great and powerful' is handing out certificates of courage, diplomas of thinkology and fake mechanical effigies - with promises of intelligence, valor, compassion and home. pure trype. |
