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Danger_dave
Posted on Monday, May 07, 2012 - 10:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>>Canada equals British Commonwealth equals they accommodate you, right?<<

No, the Commonwealth these days is just an excuse for the leaders to meet and dress up funny.
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Mr_grumpy
Posted on Tuesday, May 08, 2012 - 04:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Dave, you forgot the free holiday & dinners.

Funny how the commonwealth leaders always meet in a nice sunny place by the sea or somesuch.

It's never Manchester in November.

Max, the Expos moved to Washington a few years back & became the Nationals.
They're doing well this season too, top of the NL east at the moment.
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Moxnix
Posted on Tuesday, May 08, 2012 - 10:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've been to one Cards game in my 12 years here in Misery, though the wife and spawn are big fans. Okay, okay, study up on hockey and grown a hun hair mullet for Canada.
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Xb1125r
Posted on Tuesday, May 08, 2012 - 10:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

ha ha, i saw this coming weeks ago, abamas buddy got kicked out the door and obamas urn is coming next. inconpetent presidents are not what people want.
the french boy is going to push to get out of the euro, which is going to help france to control their economy and not depend on the ohter countries that can't run their economies.
the germans will fight to save the euro becuase it has brought them a better economy, but they will move eventually back to the deuth mark.
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Mr_grumpy
Posted on Tuesday, May 08, 2012 - 11:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Maybe on another planet but not this one.

Our new pres is in for the euro, unless he does the biggest about turn ever.
He vilified Marine Le Pen of the Front Nationale (far right) who suggested that she'd leave the Euro.

It would help some French businesses but cripple many more so not really a viable option.

I doubt any of the Eurozone countries could afford the change back to an independent currency at this time.

The Euro is a pretty stable currency these days, check the exchange rate against the dollar if you want confirmation.

Currency speculators mostly based in New York would have you believe otherwise, but that's how they make a living, they don't want stable currencies as they make their wedge on the movement, don't matter to them which way it goes. If the dollar looked shaky enough they'd strip your bones too.
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Xb1125r
Posted on Tuesday, May 08, 2012 - 12:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

guess you did not see the interview on your new boy that clearly said. France needs to have its own currency and not depend ont he euro.
france needs to be able to protect its borders and not let anyone come in and out as they please.
things were better before the euro.
the only ones that benefitted form the euro are the germans.
you go to any country in europe, you only see german tourist.
french got no money to travel and spend, cuase they have none to spend.
lets see if the french got any balls
or are they going to bend over for the germans like they have done in the past
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Chauly
Posted on Tuesday, May 08, 2012 - 12:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I had a fiber line being installed that was a true exercise in diplomacy, with different parts of the machine coming from different countries. They all had to work together (being controlled by an American PLC/computer system, natch!), so we had technicians there at the same time. The Frenchman and the German were having a friendly disagreement about where a problem lay, and it became less friendly and more heated. Finally the German flipped him off, but with a splayed Boy Scout Salute instead of the Universal Single Digit of Good Will. The Frenchman exploded, strode off, and didn't come back for several hours. Curiosity got the better of me, so I asked Fritz (yes, that was his name) what that gesture meant.

"Three Days!"

"Three Days"?

"It only took three days for Germany to roll over France in 1940..."


Ouch.
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Britchri10
Posted on Tuesday, May 08, 2012 - 12:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The British answer to that would be: 3-Nil.
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Mr_grumpy
Posted on Tuesday, May 08, 2012 - 03:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

On the freight ferry going to Zeebrugge in Belgium from Dover one day, sat at a table for 4 in the crowded restaurant with a mate I'd not seen for ages & one of his colleagues.
A german driver asked if we minded him taking the last place, no we replied, help yourself.
we carried on shooting the breeze about places we'd been & trip times etc, & the german would chip in too but everything he'd done was bigger, better, faster, more.
You get the picture.
Things were starting to get a bit annoying so I winked at my mate & launched in.

"You remember my uncle don't you?" I asked him & good as gold he caught on straight away.
"What, the one who used to do night runs?"
"Yeah, that's the one, he used to do Norfolk to Dusseldorf in one hit"
"Didn't he do Berlin as well?"
"Yeah, always a round trip too, there & back overnight."

"But that's impossible!" says the kraut.

"Not with a f*****g Lancaster it isn't" we replied in unison laughing.

Didn't get another peep out of him.
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Xb1125r
Posted on Tuesday, May 08, 2012 - 03:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Chauly that was funny.
its a funny world
all nationalities have their stereotype.
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Chauly
Posted on Tuesday, May 08, 2012 - 04:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mr G,
I heard a similar one about a British Airways pilot getting confusing ground directions at Frankfurt Am Main. Finally, in frustration, the ground controller blurted out:
" Are you ignorant? Haven't you ever been to Frankfurt before?"

"Once, in 1944, but I didn't stop..."
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Sifo
Posted on Tuesday, May 08, 2012 - 06:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The Euro is a pretty stable currency these days, check the exchange rate against the dollar if you want confirmation.

I hate to have to say this, but if you have been stable against the dollar the past few years that's just confirmation that the euro is falling.
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Sifo
Posted on Tuesday, May 08, 2012 - 07:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I did some looking at the Euro vs the Dollar and it seems that currently it's about 1.3 Euros to the dollar. Back at the end of 2009 it was about 1.5 Euros to the dollar. That's a pretty big slide in recent years against a benchmark that's been sliding. I'm not so sure about the stability of the Euro. I'm sure the politicians on that side of the pond are telling folks how stable it is though. Just don't believe your lying eyes!
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Moxnix
Posted on Tuesday, May 08, 2012 - 09:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The Euro is going away. Perhaps not today, but sometime within our lifetimes. The strong countries don't want to keep the weak ones on life support with loans and guarantees.
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Mr_grumpy
Posted on Wednesday, May 09, 2012 - 03:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The thing is, it's easy to point at the euro & various different countries with different problems but it's all linked.

If Greece, for example, were cut adrift or pulled out of the euro all its trade with other eu states would immediately become hugely more expensive due to the trade tarifs, time lost at borders, etc etc.
If one of the bigger players like France Holland or Germany jacked in it would be catastrophic for Europe as a whole.
The roots have gone deep in The European Union, I think it would be much harder to retreat than to battle through.

Remember, the debt problems are only problems if a few "experts" say they are, other countries with records as bad as Greece have kept their credit ratings, why is this? still more countries with solid economies have had their rating downgraded while others who still have difficulties have kept theirs.

Look at your own country, not long ago you were all getting up in arms about exceeding your own debt limits & having to change the law to accomodate it.
I don't recall hearing a peep from Standard & Poors or Moodys about that.

I understand that "It's just business" but these things can have profound effects.

I'm not an economist or political theoretician, but I am a European, I've travelled all over the continent & I'm in touch with people who still do.

It's not just economics remember, this continent has known peace for one of the longest periods of it's history, largely due to the economic ties that bind it together.

What happens if it all falls apart?
The Czechs, Poles, Hungarians & all who've become the new europeans will be crapping themselves with Putin in the driving seat in Moscow.
Will America stand up for them? or will you say "Oh no not another foreign war."

And when the former East Bloc states have been rolled over & their new prosperity absorbed into the Russian Federation & the Russians are at the German border, what'll you do?

It'll be the 1950s & 60s all over again, & nobody wants that.

No my friends, it's in nobody's interest for the Euro to collapse, except for a few greedy bastards who get fat off the difficulty of others.
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Chauly
Posted on Wednesday, May 09, 2012 - 07:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It sounds a bit rough this morning on the money front for the Euro...
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Sifo
Posted on Wednesday, May 09, 2012 - 10:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It's not just economics remember, this continent has known peace for one of the longest periods of it's history, largely due to the economic ties that bind it together.

Grumpy check your gauges! I think both your irony and hypocrisy may be running in the red!

Wasn't it the French that just orchestrated the overthrow of a sovereign government for the purpose of a sweetheart oil deal from the puppet government being installed? I questioned you about this right after it happened and your answer was basically that France did what was in Frances best interests, so it's all good.

It may be true that this was done on a different continent and with the military might of a hired lackey, but even though the band may be playing a different tune, the dance steps are all the same. Northern Africa seems to be a favorite area for Europe to plunder resources from when they don't want to plunder in their own back yard. Of course geographically it's not much different than Illinois conning Texas to invade Michigan.
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Mr_grumpy
Posted on Wednesday, May 09, 2012 - 05:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yup, that's about the size of it.

Depends who's screwing who whether its art or porn.

My hypocrisy & irony meters are interchangeable some days, others I just copy everyone else.
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Aesquire
Posted on Friday, May 11, 2012 - 11:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The manipulation of money is big business. G Soros made a fortune on the Pound and the Ruble, and is doing so on the Dollar ( and I bet the Euro ) as we speak.

Spends a lot of money to support causes. One or two are actually good charities, the rest seems to be to gain political power. On tuesdays I assume he owns Obama. The rest of the week I assume he just rents him. Did he support the new guy in France? If so, you are screwed.
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