| Author | Message | ||
     Scottorious |
along with my honda I picked up another old vintage dual purpose bike. I found this bike with 600 original miles for 600 bucks. couldnt pass it up. I have not seen a motorcycle with a high and low range. if you put this thing in 1st/low you can crawl over just about anything!!! its awesome! anyone else have experience with one? It seems that the clutch is slipping does anyone know of a quick fix? I put automatic trans fluid in it per the manual. When it warms up it slips less but when the bike gets fairly warm it starts to cut out. could that be a coil issue? | ||
| Natexlh1000 |
I would look at the condenser first. Can you run it with the points cover off? If the condenser is crapping out, the points will get all sparky. I bet you can get another condenser from a good small engine repair place if you bring it with you. Congrats on a major score! I'm mad jealous! I am currently looking for a KL250 chassis that I can transfer my good engine to so that I can register it for great justice. | ||
| Fahren |
Post pix, please. | ||
| Reepicheep |
I have a 1971 F8 Bison (250) running and with most parts... Make me an offer. Any offer.  | ||
| Debueller |
Sounds like a Kawasaki Trail Boss. I rode one a lot in the early 70's. | ||
| Daves |
Friend of mine had a Suzuki 185 that had High/low range His was probably about a 1975 or 75? | ||
| Scottorious |
it is a trail boss. I will try the condenser. points and condensers are before me. Dont have much experience with them. | ||
| Natexlh1000 |
The vintage I am after is 1980 or so. Single overhead cam/2 valve. Mine has been enhanced with a KZ1100 piston. Not street legal though. | ||
| Scottorious |
anyone know anything about what the clutch issue could be? after almost 40 years of no use could it be glazed over? just needing some hard running? | ||
| Natexlh1000 |
Well those plates have been sitting in an oil bath for my entire life span. I would think they are pickled Who knows, perhaps those low miles were spent burning out the clutch? | ||
| Teeps |
Check the adjustment of the clutch throw out mech. I used to work on those bikes; but don't remember the mech. It's only been 30+ years... send me a photo and I can probably help. | ||
| Panhead_dan |
I had a '69 TR 120 for it's entire life. I recommend fresh plugs (often). Don't be afraid to pop open the clutch and replace a couple of discs. Carb problems are a minor pain because the carb is inside the right case. Great bike that's tough to kill! | ||
| Tiltcylinder |
Check to be sure the vented fuel cap, still vents for the cutting out issue. Can't remember which way but, the points will have a lot of metal transferred to one side or the other of the contacts, one side indicates a bad condensor, the other a bad coil. Any ignition condensor you can find to fit in there, should work fine... car, forklift, tractor, bike.... | ||
| Scottorious |
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| Natexlh1000 |
I wonder how much of that bike is the same as a KE100? That thing is in minty shape! | ||
| Reepicheep |
Well, if we are posting pictures...  | ||
| Scottorious |
the ke100 used the same motor and i think was the offspring of the g4tr. | ||
| Datsaxman |
I had a 90 that was a lot like that. Neutral at the bottom, five up. A real screamer that ended up being given away. Good times. | ||
| 86129squids |
OK, THIS is a cool thread. Dang, they don't make bikes like that no more. I remember the dual range Suzuki's , always wanted one. My first bike was a TS125, '81, I eventually did a cafe treatment to it, totalled it at age 16. My Grandfather then got me a '73 Superbeetle, hoping to keep me alive a little longer. Apparently things worked out. | ||
| Guell |
My 1973 kawasaki mc1m is neutral and then 5 up. | ||
| Ltbuell |
Hey Panhead dan,i ,too, had a C2TR 120(believe mine was a '69 as well).Mine had the dual range gearing(two sprockets on the rear,not the "flip switch lever" on the case).Man did i do a lot to it.Expansion chamber,opened up the ports in the barrel,rejet the carb,Uni air filter,reworked the rotary valve(man that alone really woke up the bike  ).I even toke off the oil injection setup and went to straight pre-mix(cut out weight).Wasn't as fast as ,say, a 100 Centurion(damn,those were scary fast),but still way faster than a stock 120.A friend of mine had back then a 250(not the 238 model) Green Streek...talk about a missile with two wheels..DANG! Scary ,scary fast back then.The rotary valve was what really helped out with the power.Back then, there were so many bike manufacturers.It was hard to keep track of them all.European ones as well as American brands.Shoot,at moto event,it was a smorgasborg(sp) of all the brands in the 100 and 125 classes(they had the largest grouping in the 125 class alone).When the flag dropped.....it sounded like a huge pissed off swarm of bees.There were a few guys running 4-strokes(mostly stripped down Honda SL 100's or 125's) that didn't do to bad ,but back then it was all about the 2-strokes..the ole wing-ding-ding bunch with that aroma of pre-mix....mmmm loved that smell(Blenz-all and the such).Sure brings back some fun memories of back then(was in high school).Sometimes we'd all get together at places around town,where we use to live(East Bay in CA.),and have moto-cross kegger races(had a track that i made above my parents house that we'd mostly practiced and raced on).Damn,those were really fun times.LT | ||
| Ltbuell |
..hey reep,i think the 250's were called"Big Horn" if i remember correctly(that was my era-i was in high school back then).If i'm wrong,hey,then i'm wrong.But i remember the name"Big Horn" for the 250 enduro model.LT | ||
| Debueller |
The Kawa "Bighorn" was the 350...... | ||
| Ltbuell |
..hey,i'm just going to throw this out there and see where it ends up....how about a different "section" on older/other bike section.I know with just this thread alone we're already getting some really great,cool activity.And with as many of us that grew up around all the great "before now" bikes(me included).I started riding around '68 or so on a motorcycle(before it was on a Taco 22 mini bike.Time dating myself,but i don't care.It was fun back then and that's what mattered to me and all involved back then as well).So what do all of you think? | ||
| Ltbuell |
..Debueller...you're right.The 350 was the "Big Horn",forgot about that one.Stand corrected sir. | ||
| Reepicheep |
Yup, 250 is the Bison (F8). I got it siezed from a barn, and got it running again just because I could. I was expecting the suspension, brakes, and motor to be a joke compared to my "modern" KDX-200. I was right about suspension and brakes, but that motor with the rotary valve is no joke, that's a serious little powerplant. The carb under the side cover is a PITA though. (Message edited by reepicheep on May 04, 2012) | ||
| Jssport |
The G5 became the KE100 (KE's have G5 on their engine case serial #) The G4 dual transmission bike came to a dead end. I had a 73 G5 when it was new and currently own an 84 KE100 |
