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Boogiman1981
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 01, 2012 - 02:23 pm: | 
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i can tell you that Gieco does not cover 'training' |
Froggy
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 01, 2012 - 08:09 pm: |
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quote:i can tell you that Gieco does not cover 'training'
I switched to Gieco two weeks ago, while on the phone one of the things I asked was if trackdays are covered, and they said yes, but I was signing up for full coverage, not just liability. |
Boogiman1981
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 01, 2012 - 08:27 pm: |
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Must be state by state froggy. I called then as they are my carrier with full coverage and was told flat out no. If it happens on a track it's racing and therefore not covered. |
Greg_e
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 01, 2012 - 08:43 pm: |
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What if you have a racing policy? I seem to recall that both Geico and Progressive list a racing policy. Is this only medical? |
Al_lighton
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 01, 2012 - 09:38 pm: |
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"I was comin' up on this guy, and just had a lot of momentum going into turn 1. Plenty of room for a clean pass, but just as I get past and start turning in, this guy panics and turns into my rear tire, and down he goes. I mean the pass was close, but this guy just panicked. I did the nice guy thing and apologized, but now this dude is asking me to pay for his crash?!"
I hear ya, but not even close... this guy came running up my right side and was brushing leathers with me as he went by with a pretty big speed differential. I tried to stand it up a little to move away from him but he was already angled across my bow. From the time that I was aware of him to the time I was going down was maybe a second, probably less. No panic, I'm quite used to being passed at closer than the track day minimum distance rules. But I'm not at all used to someone rubbing leathers as they go by. Bottom line, he had a responsibility to give a little bit of clearance and KNOW that he could make a clean pass, and he didn't abide by the rules. There was no points or trophies at stake here, he should have checked up and waited for the next straight or corner to pass cleanly. It was a total bonehead move on his part.
The bike is a dedicated track bike I got from Erik Buell racing for a smoking deal. It was a Buell test vehicle, likely used for emissions compliance testing from the way it was set up. No title, just a bill of sale. It doesn't need to be pretty to serve it's intended purpose. I'll likely smooth out the scratches and rattle can paint it flat black to minimize the refurb costs. |
Carbonfibrebob
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 01, 2012 - 11:42 pm: |
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Heal well, All. Don't even think about sneezing for a couple of months. DAMHIK. It truly sucks that you were punted off the track by a moron.
Wishing you the best,
Bob |
Bertman
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 01, 2012 - 11:47 pm: |
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The difference in rider mentality and respect from Saturday to Sunday was absolutely astounding. Saturday was run counter-clockwise, and sure that is not the norm for the Streets of Willow, and maybe the riders were a little cautious. Before riding in the first session on Sunday I was even praising all the riders from the previous day for such a great, safe track day. After the third Sunday session run the normal clock-wise direction which included two red flags and a bike on fire in the middle of the back straight, I said f**k this, I'm going over to the big track and watch the historic bikes run for a while and debate if I want to ride again today. I came back about two hours later and it looked like the gene pool was a bit sparser so I decide to ride some more. A couple more sessions and another red flag I'm back in the pits again and Sammy rides up and says "That's Al!" I look up to see where the crash happened and of course it's only in the fastest corner on the track in the kink up to turn one.
Al
Sammy
About the only good thing I can say is that the Buell crashes good with minor repairs required.
Heal fast Al!! |
Blake
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 02, 2012 - 04:14 am: |
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>>> Just to play devil's advocate here ...
Translation: "I'm basically going to publicly question your word/integrity, but I want to deflect attention from my own motives for doing so."
It's always amazing to me the effort some will go to behave like a complete jerk towards well-known reputable people.
Al,
You'll be doing yourself a huge dis-service if you avoid seeing your doctor, who will prescribe some painkillers so you can rest easy. Stress hinders healing. Hang tough young man! ![: ]](http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/clipart/proud.gif) |
Littlebuggles
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 02, 2012 - 06:43 am: |
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Reading this thread tells me why I've been okay to stay out of the intermediate groups on my track days. Broken ribs suck, especially when accompanied by a broken bike. I've been there and I am always sorry to hear someone's gotta deal with that too.
If they aren't complete fractures they won't want you to tape them, it increases the risk of pneumonia due to restricting your breathing even further.
I wondered why you sounded a bit surly when I called Monday, it's all very clear to me now. Heal quick Al, be sure to rest when you can.
-Mike |
Boogiman1981
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 02, 2012 - 06:56 am: |
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"What if you have a racing policy? I seem to recall that both Geico and Progressive list a racing policy. Is this only medical?"
from what i was told by the rep back in november 2011 the policy is basically not in effect while you're on teh track. it is entirely possible that the rep wasn't knowledgeable about bike policies? she didn't offer and nor did i ask if there were 'race' specific policies. |
Smoke
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 02, 2012 - 07:05 am: |
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heal quick Al!
tim |
Mr_grumpy
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 02, 2012 - 08:40 am: |
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Translation: "I'm basically going to publicly question your word/integrity, but I want to deflect attention from my own motives for doing so."
I think you may be doing Benm2 a disservice Blake, I didn't see that part of his post like that at all.
I presumed he was pointing out how, human nature being what it is, the other guy will be justifying it to himself & his friends. |
Daves
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 02, 2012 - 10:35 am: |
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That's how I read it too Blake.
Ben was just pointing out that the other guy probably has a different telling of what happened. |
Stirz007
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 02, 2012 - 11:29 am: |
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+ 1: That's how I read it too Blake.
"there's your side of the story, my side, and then what really happened" |
Drkside79
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 02, 2012 - 11:44 am: |
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I'm with Grump Daves and Stirs on this one Blake.
You may want to consider saying sorry for calling him a jerk. But alas you're a grown man so that's up to you. |
Ted
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 02, 2012 - 12:03 pm: |
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+ 1 |
Damnut
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 02, 2012 - 01:44 pm: |
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I think you may be doing Benm2 a disservice Blake, I didn't see that part of his post like that at all.
You may want to consider saying sorry for calling him a jerk. But alas you're a grown man so that's up to you.
I see that as typical Blake but he owns the place so he can make the rules as he goes along. |
Slaughter
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 02, 2012 - 02:22 pm: |
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Another one bites the dust |
Xl1200r
| | Posted on Thursday, May 03, 2012 - 03:41 pm: |
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Al, nearly the same situation happened to a friend of mine I was at a track with at NJMP a few years back, he runs in the A group. He going into turn one after the long straight. He was outside, but not all the way outside, so just before the he entered the turn he moved outside a bit more. Someone else was trying to make a legal pass on the outside when he changed his line. They made contact, both went down, the other rider was knocked out for a bit if I remember right.
The funny part was even though my friend got ran into, he felt at blame for the wreck, at least partly. And I think that's what it comes down to - as little as it may be, there's always something you could have done in hindisght. The other rider came over after he came to - not sure what he was looking for, didn't say much. He almost came across like he wanted to blame my friend, but was also asking exactly what happened so who knows. The general consensus was that you take risks getting on the track and they are your own responsibility.
This guy paying for damange has nothing to do with integrity, I don't think. He'd be super stand up if he did pay for it, but you both got on the track and accepted those risks, that's the way the cards lay sometimes.
Anyway, $500 ain't jack and a bruised/broke rib is a small price to pay for 2 full days of fun! |
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