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Torquehd
Posted on Monday, April 23, 2012 - 09:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

And Erik had been able to work together.

I would LOVE to see what those two could come up with.
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Ridenusa4l
Posted on Monday, April 23, 2012 - 10:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

oh man...i can only imagine...actually no i cant cause that wouldve been just crazy!! the 2 most innovative engineering minds of this era in my opinion.

Jake
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Tuesday, April 24, 2012 - 12:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm kinda intrigued to see what one of the most talented motorcycle designers/engineers alive with the resources of the largest global manufacturers and the leash removed can do.

I think even Britten would say "Wow!"
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Court
Posted on Tuesday, April 24, 2012 - 06:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Interesting concept.

Interesting background.

Britten, in many ways, was the diametric opposite of Erik Buell.

Certainly an interesting guy.

I have some great memories.
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Glitch
Posted on Tuesday, April 24, 2012 - 07:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Britten, in many ways, was the diametric opposite of Erik Buell.
Really? How so?
I was under the impression they were really similar.
Maybe not in the engineering I guess.
But diametrically opposite?
That in itself is an interesting statement.
They seem more similar than different.
But then again, I don't know either personally, other than meeting them during an event.
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Court
Posted on Tuesday, April 24, 2012 - 12:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

To begin to get a flavor . . be sure to read both the books on John Britten. One of them, as I found while having dinner with Kirsteen Britten, was less than popular. Read the one by Felicity carefully.

Most folks, for better or worse, have formed opinions based on nothing more than seeing the bike.

John was an amazing person, the bikes were amazing machines, his dad was an amazing guy.
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Rex
Posted on Tuesday, April 24, 2012 - 01:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I must of read the one book, not as flattering to him. I guess I need to read the other one.

Even with the book, the bike, the motor, etc. of the Britten was quite an accomplishment.

Truly his own Vtwin.
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86129squids
Posted on Tuesday, April 24, 2012 - 02:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks for the $.02 Court- if they ever expand a day past 24 hours, mebbe I could read those, and will.

Once upon a time I thought there was a biography on Soichoro Honda, looked for it a few times, no luck yet- anyone have clues?
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Slaughter
Posted on Tuesday, April 24, 2012 - 03:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

A dozen or so Honda bios at Amazon:

Amazon Honda Bio link
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Bandm
Posted on Tuesday, April 24, 2012 - 05:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I get the impression from this video that Britten did things more by trial and error than actual engineering. Most of the fabrication techniques in the video seem very primitive, even for 1995. Reminded me alot of Burt Munro.

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Torquehd
Posted on Tuesday, April 24, 2012 - 05:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Court, you met John?

I've read certain things about his personality. However, i'm still blown away by what he was able to accomplish.

just the idea of casting, heat-treating, and machining your own engine case... for a 170-hp V-twin... in your garage. that alone just baffles me.

the front suspension he used.. i can't remember the name, like a double-wishbone kinda deal... it's similar to some BMW designs currently in use. The BMW riders seem to like them.

i wonder why we don't see them elsewhere.
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Moxnix
Posted on Tuesday, April 24, 2012 - 07:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

His early "Aero Zero" Ducati was the gnat's butt on the straight, a little too aero efficient to turn well. I'll dig up a photo if I can find one.
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Geedee
Posted on Tuesday, April 24, 2012 - 08:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Have you seen this one?

http://www.nzonscreen.com/title/britten-backyard-v isionary-1993
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Moxnix
Posted on Tuesday, April 24, 2012 - 11:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)











Nice documentary.
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Torquehd
Posted on Wednesday, April 25, 2012 - 02:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

hadn't seen that one, some same and some different clips from the original "one man's dream" video. but that clip was missing that awful music!!

as terrible as that dvd is, i get so inspired every time i watch it. over the past couple months i've been attempting to get into several new hobbies, and i blame part of it on john britten.

I think Erik could have helped john with his suspension designs, and maybe John helped erik with his production techniques.
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Team_ruthless
Posted on Wednesday, April 25, 2012 - 12:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm waiting for Buell and Shelby to build a cycle car.
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