| Author | Message | ||
     Slaughter |
Parents setting a "Wonderful" example Probably the same type of parent that does their kid's science project for them and enrolls them in the "everybody's a winner" T-ball. These "parents" are the spoiled kids who grew up and bred. Grrrrrrr :-( (Message edited by slaughter on March 26, 2012) | ||
| Buellathebuzzer |
You know, in my day our parents would have been off in the beer garden rather than interfering with the kids event. | ||
| Reepicheep |
We had a pair of 6th grader parents start a shouting match at a Lacrosse game I was helping coach this weekend. It was the only dark spot in an otherwise great game for us (last year their second string team beat us 10 to 2, this year we beat their first string team 6 to 4). One of their teams fans instigated, one of ours responded and amplified, both were stupid. We just had to tell the kids "don't turn around, pay attention to the game". | ||
| Aesquire |
For generations, the dream was that your children would live in a better world, and not have to hump as hard as you did to feed and shelter their children. ( surveys say that is no longer expected. Thanks to certain political movements ) The trouble is, we succeeded. Actually I'll give that credit to the "boomers" who's parents suffered through the Great Depression, WW1 + WW2, Korea, etc. to bring us all a better life. In the US, they won. We have a generation and a half who never had to work to survive, never had to sacrifice to provide for their loved ones, and were brought up with "self esteem" czars making sure they felt good about themselves, no matter their accomplishments of actual worth to society. But I ramble. Spoiled brats is a great description, Slaughter. These idiots have killed Halloween, Easter, and many other fine traditions with their selfishness and fear. | ||
| Kyrocket |
http://abcnews.go.com/US/massachusetts-dad-accused -aimed-laser-pointer-high-school/story?id=15868651 Saw this on the news a few days ago, he was apologizing and saying he was sorry. Bull, he was only sorry he was caught. What kind of person shines a laser pointer in a kid's face to begin with? Did he just happen to have one in his pocket at a hockey game? See? Already got me worked up this morning. | ||
| Boogiman1981 |
wow some really special people there.... jerks. that's a big reason my kids don't go to organized sports or other events it's not worth the hassle of the other adults there. | ||
| Mr_grumpy |
My lad is very proud of the fact that his Dad is a Scottish Truck Driver & a biker, he lets everyone know. Also that his mum is Breton & ex French Army Sergeant. Both sides of the family are culturally considered to be "hard" here, I do nothing to discourage this impression (for such it is). Funnily enough we don't get any hassle from other parents. Oh they look down their noses, true enough, but none of 'em would dare cross us.  | ||
| Whatever |
They don't check for stupidity in the pre natal exam... just sayin... And, you said you gave your kids to a roaming band of gypsies anyhow, Steve! | ||
| Jaimec |
My girlfriend is a teacher and sees that shit all the time. Parents doing their kids homework and science fair projects. No wonder the kids are as dumb as a fencepost... they KNOW they don't have to do anything because mommy and daddy will bail them out every time. Those kids are going to have a RUDE awakening in later life, but by then it'll be far too late. | ||
| Fahren |
On the other hand, having the parents come out to the kids' games is great, as it really raises the energy level to have fans cheering on the team. I haven't seen it get out of hand yet, but I do have to deal with some pretty "involved" baseball parents sometimes. I guess it's a fine line for some. Sort of a "momma grizzly" kind of effect. | ||
| Mr_grumpy |
We've managed to avoid the parent/supporter problem as the boy's not interested in sports competitively, he's in the Young Firefighters scheme at school so the sport is aimed at fitness & teamwork. | ||
| Reepicheep |
Agreed Fahren. I'm a reluctant sports parent... by some random chance one of my kids ended up to be a really good athlete. I got sucked into coaching from there (the eternal assistant coach, you couldn't pay me enough to be a head coach). I like working with the kids, I could care less about "the game". The community, participation, and engagement with parent and child is wonderful. And they don't give "self esteem awards" in our football or lacrosse leagues... you know if you lost because you just got your ass kicked. The kids don't like it, and fight harder the next time. Not for everyone, but for those that it is for, it is a good thing. | ||
| Xodot |
I was either on the bench or in the stands for my 4 kids and I only ever shouted encouragement for our team. (OK I do admit sometimes I encouraged the ref to call the game as I saw it!) The parents I stood with never heckled any kids and we cheered a good play made against our team too. They were good years and added greatly to our kid's life education. They all still play at a recreational level as adults so that means they must have enjoyed something there too. | ||
| Ltbuell |
"My lad is very proud of the fact that his Dad is a Scottish Truck Driver & a biker, he lets everyone know. Also that his mum is Breton & ex French Army Sergeant. Both sides of the family are culturally considered to be "hard" here, I do nothing to discourage this impression (for such it is). Funnily enough we don't get any hassle from other parents. Oh they look down their noses, true enough, but none of 'em would dare cross us." Mr grumpy...i'd rather hang out with you and the misses any day than the "snobs".I grew up in an area with the like of them and felt so "out of place".I have had friends,through the years that were/are somewhat like yourself and your wife and i had the best of times with them.Can't stand snooty people and yes those kids of those type of parents WILL be in for a rude awakening.If you don't mind me asking what part of Scotland do you hail from and what "clan"? I do have a large percentage of Scots in me(from the Clan Murray of Atholl) and i,too, an proud of it.That's cool that your son is proud of both you and the misses(that's how it should be,right?Right).Yup,i hate "adults" that behave like"terrible 2's" children..ruins the whole atmosphere...."whether you win or lose,its how you play the game"....if you play fair and right and win..great.If you lose,hey there's a learning lesson there that can be taken away and used for the next time to do better.Hate the "spoiled brats" too.Love it when they think there"poopie" don't stink.Got news for them...everyone puts on their pants the same way...one leg at a time..... | ||
| Oldog |
I wondered If Slaughters post was about the Easter egg hunt. What is wrong with people? | ||
| Drkside79 |
When I reffed Soccer we had a card for parents. When It was shown the game could not continue until the parent removed themselves from the event. Sitting in their car was OK. Had to use it three times. Wanted to use it 50. First time fine parent swore and left. Second time two parents fought. Third time I had to call the game. Felt really bad for the Kids felt really really bad for the kid whose parent it was. | ||
| Reepicheep |
Totally tangent-ing this thread, but one I was wrestling with this weekend anyway. That sounds reasonable Xodot and Drkside79... I have no beef with either team "talking" to the ref. It actually makes a good accountability and feedback balance. I've seen some pretty loosely ref'd games that were putting kids at real jeopardy of getting hurt. Their parents are in the stands and have a right to express their opinion. But once a parent starts talking to another parent (for example telling them to shut up) on the other team, that crosses a line. Once a parent starts addressing a legal minor directly, that crosses the line. So it's OK to yell "that was a slash to the head Ref!", but not "Hey number 23, stop slashing to the head". That seems like a reasonable boundary to me. I appreciate being able to talk about it in a neutral forum, as I will probably have to talk about it with involved parents sooner or later. Like I said, it was the only dark spot in an otherwise really good game. | ||
| Slaughter |
The easter egg hunt being squashed was because (In my perverted opinion) - exactly because of overbearing parents who are typically doing the same thing at Tball, little leage, soccer, Pop Warner. At least SOME leagues try to control the parental behavior. | ||
| Drkside79 |
Reep I would allow things to a point. Parent's and coaches could yell out to me all they wanted generally. Never changed a call never will. However swearing at me. or berating a Kid gets the green card (spectator). Much as I would issue a yellow or red to the player for the same thing. A typical soccer game has three refs. A head reg that for the most part runs diagonally from one flag to the opposite on the far side. The side judges are responsible for the lines on the far side of the ref. when the two side judges are no shows my life gets much harder and I'm going to have to use my best judgment on line calls I won't always be right. So if I'm wrong say come on ref. Saying G__ Damnit get you stupid F*cking A$$ to the line will get you tossed. Player or Spectator. | ||
| Drkside79 |
Umping Little League is worse those parents need a kick to the head. I played both BaseBall and soccer so i would earn extra money in HS and college Reffing and Umping. | ||
| Mr_grumpy |
Paul, family is from NE Scotland, Forres. but I was born & raised Cambridge England. Part of Clan Campbell. | ||
| S21125r |
When I was a kid my parents made it real simple. A loss meant that I either didn't try hard enough or I was just plain outclassed by a better opponent. It was up to me to decide. | ||
| Fahren |
I like the strict umpires who keep all adults except coaches off the field. It makes the coaching job a lot easier. | ||
| Xodot |
Reep - yea I am not proud of my over exuberant expressions towards the refs on occasion, but I did/do get caught up in the emotion of the moment. I was only fessing up here, not bragging. Still I was always aware there is a line and I don't think our choice of expressions crossed it. | ||
| Buellmojo |
"When I was a kid my parents made it real simple. A loss meant that I either didn't try hard enough or I was just plain outclassed by a better opponent. It was up to me to decide." +1, same here, but from coaches, and fellow teammates parent's for me... Whichever it may be, fix it!!! | ||
| Court |
>>>The community, participation, and engagement with parent and child is wonderful. And will be rewarded over and over for many years to come. | ||
| Gregtonn |
"...I was wrestling..." Now there is a sport I participated in and loved. If you lost it was your own damned fault. (Though some parents may have disagreed, the participants knew the truth.) G | ||
| Boney95 |
Spoke was an Army guy that just got out of boot camp. Said his batlion had aprox 275 people at the start. Aprox 100 of those dropped out! I was shocked. #1. The Marine Corps doesn't allow you to quit. #2. Are high school seniors a bunch of pussies? | ||
| Boney95 |
Court, That was sensitive, wrong thread. | ||
| M2statz |
I think this might fit with this thread. My mom sent it to me for something to think about as I raise her grandchildren. ~ Bill Gates ~ This should be posted in every school or kid's bedroom. Love him or hate him , he sure hits the nail on the head with this.!!! Bill Gates recently gave a speech at a High School about eleven (11) things they did not and will not learn in school. He talks about how feel-good, politically correct teachings created a generation of kids with no concept of reality and how this concept set them up for failure in the real world. Rule 1 : Life is not fair - get used to it! Rule 2 : The world doesn't care about your self-esteem. The world will expect you to accomplish something BEFORE you feel good about yourself. Rule 3 : You will NOT make $60,000 a year right out of high school. You won't be a vice-president with a car phone until you earn both. Rule 4 : If you think your teacher is tough, wait till you get a boss Rule 5 : Flipping burgers is not beneath your dignity. Your Grandparents had a different word for burger flipping: They called it opportunity. Rule 6 : If you mess up, it's not your parents' fault, so don't whine about your mistakes, learn from them. Rule 7 : Before you were born, your parents weren't as boring as they are now. They got that way from paying your bills, cleaning your clothes and listening to you talk about how cool you thought you were: So before you save the rain forest from the parasites of your parent's generation, try delousing the closet in your own room.. Rule 8 : Your school may have done away with winners and losers, but life HAS NOT. In some schools, they have abolished failing grades and they'll give you as MANY TIMES as you want to get the right answer. *This doesn't bear the slightest resemblance to ANYTHING in real life. Rule 9 : Life is not divided into semesters. You don't get summers off and very few employers are interested in helping you FIND YOURSELF. *Do that on your own time. Rule 10 : Television is NOT real life. In real life people actually have to leave the coffee shop and go to jobs. Rule 11 : Be nice to nerds. Chances are you'll end up working for one.. If you can read this... Thank a Teacher. If you can read this in English... Thank a Soldier! And for life and everything else you have... Thank God!! Now.... think about this and smile if you agree and please pass this on.... If you don't agree, go stick your head in the SAND and take a DEEP BREATH.!!!! |
