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     Fb1 |
All I mostly see are cutesy postings or emotional outbursts from the Left. It is tiresome. It is, sadly, all they've got. I *think* America is finally waking up: We have a monster on our hands. Even the libs know this. Why do they support Mr. Obama? Follow the money. Matters not if the supporter is in politics, business, or an ordinary citizen: Follow the money. I'm not much of a Romney fan, but he'll do until 2016. America, as the Founding Fathers intended, will NOT survive four more years of Mr. Obama. | ||
| Fb1 |
Tom, the following instills in me much hope. We malign the federal government a lot (which is our right and duty), but it's important to remember that there ARE Patriots in the government who are in it for the RIGHT reasons. We need to constantly let these folks know that we appreciate and support their patriotism; these folks, and the polls, are our only hope. | ||
| Reindog |
Thanks, Jerry. Paul Ryan is fantastic and I hope he seeks higher office some day. I hope EVERY Badwebber takes the time to view these youtubes. | ||
| Reindog |
I was going to post this Paul Ryan polemic in yesterday's WSJ before finding about the above youtubes. The GOP Budget and America's Future | ||
| Fb1 |
Tom, most excellent, thank you. This is REAL hope and change, instead of Mr. Obama's "Four more years of smoke and mirrors." Emphasis mine:
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| Cityxslicker |
Actually the acturial charts of 7's and 10's should persist ad infiniatum until the crash. The 'law' is that ever 7 to 10 years the nominal prices in dollars agregate will double from X time period before. It has been since they started tracking it in 1921 when a Craftsman house was less than 4500 and the Model T could be had for under 1000. for example, start with the 64 mustang advertised at $ 1 a pound.... 64 - 2000 72- 4000 80- 8000 90- 16000 97- 32000 07 - 64000 2017- 128000 Surely you cant mean that a 2017 Mustang will cost 128000.... the relative value will be about the same - index it vs gold.... and you will see that the cash price has escalated phenomonally.... but it has played right in line with the valued index of gold .... this is how your grand parents got a candy bar for a nickel and the same thing costs you almost 1.20 now, depending on where you shop. so in ten years - the office visit of fifteen minutes now costs about 115.... (unless the economy and currency collapse - which I am betting it will ) it will appropriately cost no less than 230 for the same service in 2022. There are entirely too many decades of stats to back it up. PS the cost of healthcare today as a precentage of average salary - is as it was 100 years ago - about 4-7 % per annum of base salary. You are welcome to go find data to prove the contrary... hint - the CBO couldn't either - it is why their numbers have been non public for the last two years. | ||
| Drkside79 |
OK Rein since you tend not to be an ass I will try and answer. 1 Whether you like it or not I don believe that companies should help provide insurance to people. 2 I believe that Obama carries himself well and has eased some of the worlds Anti American attitudes. 3 I don’t like or trust any of the Republican candidates. 4 I thought that the auto bailout was a good thing. 5 He had the guts to pull the trigger on Bin Laden when failure could have been catastrophic. 6 We are out of Iraq where we didn’t belong and have given more attention to Afganistan which is where we should have been in the first place. 7 He breaks the mold of the typical white bible busting US president. This country needs social perception change and if for no other reason I enjoy watching people panic and grasp at straws. ie He’s a Muslim he’s not an American. 8 More on the social perception change I cannot stand people who preach about the constitution and wipe their asses with it at the same time. For example while he is hardly a champion for the homosexuals I will NEVER vote for someone who believes they do not deserve the exact same rights as any other American. I find America disgusting in that facet. I believe in general that if Gays can’t be married than the US government should not recognize any other. 9 I liked cash for clunkers (and no I didn’t participate.) It got gas guzzling POS off the road and got new autos sold which we needed. 11) I thought the first time homeowner credit was good. Once again something that didn’t benefit me. However giving money back after people shelled out as opposed to handing them something they couldn’t afford was a nice change. 12 to my knowledge he hasn’t taken away my rights as far as I know. My republican friends described him as the boogieman that’s coming for my guns. Well I still own them so that was false. I will add more later. But my break is over. However befor I stop let me add #13 because it irritates people like FB1!!!!! FB1 I have never got a hand out from Obama you just made a bad assumption once again,. Painting me as a poor welfare recipient. I never took a day off to OWS. I never applied for welfare even though with two kids, wage cuts, and one of us out of work we could have qualified. I scrape by and do what I can. So as Cee Lo says "Forget U" for your presumptions. Oh I would have addressed you by name and possibly been more polite had you included your name in your profile and not been an ass. | ||
| Fb1 |
#13 because it irritates people like FB1!!!!! FB1 I have never got a hand out from Obama you just made a bad assumption once again,. Painting me as a poor welfare recipient. I never took a day off to OWS. I never applied for welfare even though with two kids, wage cuts, and one of us out of work we could have qualified. I scrape by and do what I can. So as Cee Lo says "Forget U" for your presumptions. Cool, my tactic worked; I was (borderline) rude in what I said about libs liking Mr. Obama only for the money, hoping that I'd finally get a response from someone on the left as to why they like Mr. Obama, instead of the drive-by pukings that normally pass for an endorsement for him. I'm an ass for what I said? Your opinion, not mine, but you're (obviously) welcome to think whatever you want. I've gone out of my way on this thread, and several others, to be courteous, thoughtful and respectful of differing opinions. Same as I'm doing now. I'm just back to the computer after being away for several hours. I'll digest your endorsements for Mr. Obama, and perhaps take the time to reply. Oh I would have addressed you by name and possibly been more polite had you included your name in your profile and not been an ass. Nice! Thanks for at least having the guts to speak your mind. Best, FB | ||
| Drkside79 |
You're welcome. | ||
| Drkside79 |
>>>>>I'm an ass for what I said? Your opinion, not mine, but you're (obviously) welcome to think whatever you want. I've gone out of my way on this thread, and several others, to be courteous, thoughtful and respectful of differing opinions. In this instance yes i felt you were a bit of an ass. Likewise in my response i was as well. As far as you being thoughtful ect. That may be true I can't really argue it without a lot of reading I don't have time for. | ||
| Aesquire |
my 3 cents. ( inflation ) In response. 1.gee, why? It's not like, say, exxon, or the Home Depot down the road, pay for your insurance. They don't. You do. The total compensation ( pay plus bennies plus paperwork ) for each employee is based on what the company figures you are worth to them in profits. ( examples of this breaking down can be seen at places like Kodak, and Solyndra, where the executives get huge pay and bennies while the company suffered...and died ) the REASON you want your company to organize ( not pay for ) health insurance is they can get a better deal for 50 people than you can for 1. If the insurance agency is the SAME as the government, they can then directly control your lifestyle. Today, State Farm may lobby for, say, helmet laws, and the republic's democratic processes give you a say in that choice. ( I myself prefer to wear a helmet, you may not, and I'll think you dumb, but prefer not to have the gov. tell me I must. ) With gov. insurance, you do as you are told or they cut you off, or arrest you for, say, not eating enough salad. That's not a joke. The gov. has argued in court that nationalized medicine means they have that power. Enjoy your salad. No fat dressing. 1 tbl. spoon only. By law. 2. Carries himself well? If I was nasty, I would accuse you of thinking him a well spoken and polite person of an ethnicity you don't expect that from. I disagree on world opinion, but I could be wrong. It's not been good for the last 50+ years, mostly because of the Soviets propaganda machine. Obama sure isn't thought of well there. They think he's a tool. 3.I agree. 4.maybe it was. I disagree with some of the illegal and unethical means used. 5.he had the guts to not stop it. The decision was left up to the Sec Def. I only give him partial props for Bin Laden. But I am thankful he didn't stop it. Unlike Bill Clinton. 6.There's a whole argument there. I'll only note that we are NOT yet out of Iraq. And that telling the enemy when they can move back in is folly worse than going in in the first place. See Afghanistan thread for how wonderful that's going. 7.partial agreement. I too am tired of jackasses that wave a bible while doing interns in the Oval office. Like Bill. Barack WAS a muslim, and is now apostate. His current faith, if you believe him, is Liberation Theology, American Black Urban. Not sure what the KGB calls it. It's their religion. American? not in cultural upbringing. Not raised in Vermont to love the country, that's for sure. Still don't know what his thesis was on. I've read Hillary's. Didn't bother with George's. 8.We agree. 9.I DID participate. It got my ( not so guzzling...but qualified ) rust bucket off the streets and I got a very efficient car I would otherwise have to wait longer for. It did accomplish some of what it was supposed to do. I wonder how much for the price. It may not have been cost effective, but it did boost car sales, temporarily, which was a good/mixed thing. 10. I wonder what your 10 was. 11. I liked it too. My only irritation was that I got the fracking LOAN under Bush I will be paying back for years and If I had waited, it would have been a grant under Obama. If. Only. Dreams are made of that, not reality. 12. You may not have noticed the stuff already done. It's quite a list. Obama's boosting the power of the Patriot act (a temporary bad idea, in part. Signed by Bush ) and made it permanent. He has given speeches on how that gun thing will be done as soon as he is re-elected and no longer has to worry about the rednecks. So that part is premature. To be fair, a lot of the freedoms we have given up started under Bush. ( Patriot act, TSA ) And Carter. (FEMA) And.... I could go on. 13. Hey, it's your motivation. Whatever gets your rocks off. Could be worse, you could have a thing for My Little Pony. back to you guys. | ||
| Blake |
What amazes is how the supporters of 0 so adeptly ignore all the inconvenient negatives. On the budget, that is as much if not more congress. It is after all their responsibility. We like to talk constitutionality, yes? Bush and the Republicans lost any/all moral standing on deficit spending during the Bush years. They sucked. | ||
| Aesquire |
Critical theory. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FB3BcUKmSlo&feature =related NEVER put in perspective. NEVER admit that what you attack has good points. NEVER point out alternatives. Example used by Bill in video link, this post. Gays are told that America is the worst place on earth for them. No mention is made, or ALLOWED, that if you are discovered to be gay in Iran they hang you by a crane, ( slowly ) or crush you to death. With glee. Critical Theory, and it's bastard twin Dialectic Materialism, is the method of lies for power that has led to the murder of millions upon millions of people. Just last century. More to come. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNhtoY_pu7o Pt.2 | ||
| Court |
>>> It got gas guzzling POS off the road and got new autos sold which we needed. I find it interesting that there are those among the population who, in the face of irrevocable evidence, will lap piss from a bowl if fed by the right folks. No kidding . . . folks really believe that about the "Cash for Clunkers" program. | ||
| Kenm123t |
LOL From Our Prof in Residence ! The accuracy of that observation is amazing | ||
| Sifo |
Clunkers: Taxpayers paid $24,000 per car Cash for clunkers may be one of the more successful things BO has done. Sure beats his investments (of our money) in green energy companies. What does it mean when you point to failures as the best BO has done? | ||
| Fb1 |
In this instance yes i felt you were a bit of an ass. Well cool, that's better than being a complete ass! Likewise in my response i was as well. If that's an apology, I accept.  As far as you being thoughtful ect. That may be true I can't really argue it without a lot of reading I don't have time for. That ties right into two questions I have for you. Your answer will help me better understand how your political views are shaped, and how better to formulate my replies. You say you don't have time for a lot of reading. So: 1) Do you get most (or all) of your news from watching TV? 2) If so, which network? These aren't trick questions; I'm just curious where you get your news. Best, FB | ||
| Fb1 |
Good reading for us conservatives, and especially for anyone from the left who is finally beginning to recognize that the light at the end of the tunnel is that of an oncoming train:
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| Cityxslicker |
its been two years..... have you read the bill yet ?.... cheer up, neither has your Rep or Senator that voted for it either (in all likelihood - some are even excited to admit they never did ) Here's the glory glad hand propoganda mouth piece for it..... 12 critical errors, lies, misrepresentations in the first 3 minutes - a solid 21 throughout the whole thing. PS The new reigning Head of Kaiser.... the old head of SEIU Government Relations.... any wonder why they are excited about it ? so happy birthday to this miserable legislation: If you 'like' it, you haven't read it, don't have an understanding of history/economics/insurance, or were paid off by it..... or the trifecta - all three. | ||
| Sifo |
Typical!  | ||
| Johnnymceldoo |
Some democrats are hoping they can benefit politically from an innocent boy losing his life in Florida in terms of the elections coming up. Its disgusting and very dangerous. | ||
| Sifo |
Interesting thing that is being ignored by almost all the media and ALL the folks screaming for justice. There is a witness that saw what happened and says that he saw the kid on top of the guy beating on him before he shot him. That fact sheds a very new light on this case. I'm not going to say that all the decisions by the shooter were good ones, but this witness does show that the shooting was likely self defense. | ||
| Kenm123t |
looks like the Duke case all over again. Political influence in a local case is wrong The only outside agency that should look at it is FDLE. They can charge the guy all day A Grand Jury will determine if it goes to trial. If the guys on scene and writng the report didnt arrest him this case will go no when unless the politcal pressure forces it. If the facts do not determine this case but politics due we have no country just lynch mobs. My stepson is mixed race about the same age. We have had HOA board members chase him with a car and stalk him. We seldom let him out of our sight Our HOA has some real nuts on it. I seen both sides of this issue What will determine how it goes is if Zimmerman has injuries where the kid hit him if he does he walks. Count on Obama sharpton holder etc to work this like crazy | ||
| Johnnymceldoo |
You don't shoot a 150 pound 17 year old because he's hitting you with fists. From what I was able to hear Zimmerman sounded paranoid with a chip on his shoulder saying " they always get away". I can sympathize with anyone worried about crime in their community but Zimmerman didn't seem to use logic and reason for shooting treyvon. People I know that carry and conceal carry instructors teach that lethal force is a last resort when YOUR LiFE is in danger! Its not to have the upper hand in a fist fight or to kill someone for stealing your stereo if they are not threatening your life. That opinion is based on tapes I've heard. Americans that value their right to use lethal force protecting themselves and family need to call bad actions bad actions because keeping our liberties is an uphill battle. | ||
| Sifo |
They say he had a bloody nose, a wound on the back of his head and grass on his back. The witness I posted about said he saw a guy in red being beaten by someone then after the shot the guy in red was standing over the other one. He also said he hear him screaming to stop it. There are two other "witnesses" who heard it happen from their kitchen. They claim they heard the kid crying and the crying stopped with the gunshot. They are hanging out with the protesters who want to see Zimmerman prosecuted. Now when you put what they heard, but didn't see, it actually meshes well with Zimmerman's story as well as the witness who actually saw it happen. So we have at least four peoples stories on what happened. Different conclusions, but they all seem to have very similar facts. Plus the wound will tell the story of how close they were when the shooting happened. I'm guessing the police looked at all of this and pieced together that it was in fact self defense. Some poor judgement involved from both parties IMO, but still self defense. | ||
| Sifo |
You don't shoot a 150 pound 17 year old because he's hitting you with fists. From what I was able to hear Zimmerman sounded paranoid with a chip on his shoulder saying " they always get away". I can sympathize with anyone worried about crime in their community but Zimmerman didn't seem to use logic and reason for shooting treyvon. People I know that carry and conceal carry instructors teach that lethal force is a last resort when YOUR LiFE is in danger! Its not to have the upper hand in a fist fight or to kill someone for stealing your stereo if they are not threatening your life. That opinion is based on tapes I've heard. Americans that value their right to use lethal force protecting themselves and family need to call bad actions bad actions because keeping our liberties is an uphill battle. I agree with all that you said, BUT... FL has laws that allow for a great deal of latitude in self defense. From a strict legal stance I think Zimmerman is OK. He should never have gotten out of his car to confront this kid though. Should never have followed the kid either, especial when told not to by the police on the phone. Poor decisions. Very bad outcome. | ||
| Aesquire |
Actually, if we only paid $24,000 per car.... that makes it one of the most successful government programs in recent history. A typical government program takes $1.00 from the taxpayer, and returns 22 cents to the people that the "wealth is redistributed" to. 78 cents are absorbed by the millions of bureaucrats that do the paperwork, make more than you do, and have private jets they don't have to pay for. In "cash for clunkers" if it cost $24,000 per car, and each car represents $3000 to $3800 dollars paid to the car dealer, after doing the paperwork and killing the engine of the trade in, that is, for every dollar of taxpayer money, 12.5 to 15.8 cents............. Well, I guess I was wrong. That IS worse than the usual wastage..... If they'd just given me the $24k.......... But that would not have made all those gov. workers a better paycheck than me. At least we got the car companies to sell some cars.... though the sales bubble brought about by the CFC deal did lead to an inevitable slump when it was over... And, a few high pollution cars were taken off the roads, replaced by modern cleaner cars. AND a few people actually bought cars who would not have without CFC. I was probably one of them. Actually, what it meant for ME was I bought a new, high efficiency car instead of a used car with, frankly the same mileage and pollution profile, just less rust and a drivers seat that had not yet collapsed on one side. My old Grand Caravan's engine was running like a top. Synthetic oil since I bought it, properly maintained........ It was ironic that the best part of the Caravan was deliberately destroyed in the process. So..... in my case we really did have a positive environmental and fuel use benefit to the planet. Next you are going to tell me the "kill-the-engine-goo" they used has long term cancer and pollution issues, aren't you? | ||
| Sifo |
You got to trade you Grand Caravan? My Chevy Venture van didn't qualify!  | ||
| Aesquire |
I know next to nothing about the case. That makes me as qualified as the President to have an opinion. But I will say, if a "150 lb 17 year old" was beating someone, how exactly do you expect to have a "proportionate" response. People die from beatings. Ever watch CSI? The suspect in this death is a jerk? Who isn't? Did he seek out and begin the confrontation with the intent to do another harm? IF that happened he is responsible in every way for what happens. IF the dead one is the instigator, then HE is responsible. If you open the door to violence on another, what comes through it is YOUR FAULT. | ||
| Aesquire |
Sifo, the regular Caravan only qualified for the $3000 level the Grand Caravan the $3800. Just. I actually figured I could get about $3k for the used one if I either put a for sale sign on or traded it the usual way. Well, I hoped to anyway. The CFC just helped me decide. That and the seat collapsing while driving.  http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/03/23/us-flori da-shooting-obama-idUSBRE82M0QF20120323 New York law prefers you run away than stand your ground. Obviously a law put in place by a 1%'r rich guy who lives in a gated community and has police watching out for him, not some guy who lives in a "less desirable" 'hood. So, we have a guy, who, with a good lawyer, now cannot be righteously Prosecuted because the exploiter-in-chief wanted to make points. IIRC something similar happened with Nixon. |
