| Author | Message | ||
     Badlionsfan |
I love motorcycle road racing too, but let's be real. Find me some thing that comes close to this-- | ||
| Vecchio_lupo |
I agree with several posters on this thread, I am more interested in stock cars, or at least stock based cars like the Touring Car series run in Europe then a field of identical formulated race cars turning left. I also came of age in the early 1970s and the cars were slower, but you could walk into a dealership and see the Charger that #43 was based upon. real stock cars are stock cars, not fiberglass or carbon shells with a Ford or Chevrolet decal. I only watch real cars. Whatever happened to "Build a better mousetrap"? NASCAR is not fake, just too evenly matched and wildly popular, so I am in the minority. | ||
| Pkforbes87 |
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| Froggy |
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| Fahren |
Those are Froot Loops. But a better resemblance than Cheerios. LOL | ||
| Bads1 |
Actually Skittles are the best. Skittles Racing!!! | ||
| Timo31 |
I watch all kinds of racing. NASCAR is OK, but they kind of follow an NFL parity format. I love watching the F1 knockout qualifying, the race, not so much. This is my favorite type of racing though. | ||
| Badlionsfan |
I've been to a few dirt races, great action there too I just don't know much about it. That Eslick clip is a great finish in motorcycle racing, but it doesn't compete with a winner coming from 17th to win in 5 laps, with the entire field within a few seconds of eachother after 500 miles of racing. Froggy-- It puts the lotion in the basket. | ||
| Vtpeg |
Cup races 2 road tracks every year, so its not all turning left. The televised broadcasts are terrible, Fox may be the worst network. They often cut away from good action, spend too much time on back markers "Danica, 3 laps down, doing a real nice job". Often the best action may be the race for fifth, but they will cover the leader with a 2 second lead. Seeing a race in person is well worth it, if not for the action on the track, then the people watching. "Stock" car racing at your local short track is probably a better show | ||
| Badlionsfan |
The stock has evolved out of stock car racing mainly due to safety, for drivers and fans. If you ever get the chance to really go over a 60's or 70's Winston cup car, do it. My favorite was seeing angle iron welded to stock control arms. Dirt racers were already using tubular units, but NASCAR didn't allow it. A racing sanctioning body has to find the balance between safety, evolving technology and keeping the fans and sponsors happy with the product on the track. If anyone has been more successful than NASCAR at that, I'd like to know what sanctioning body that is. | ||
| Just_ziptab |
Wood Brothers Purolator #21 Mercury. I can still hear that Boss 429 roar. You couldn't help but love racing in the late 60's/70's era of muscle cars. Boss 429 Mustangs on the street for $5,000.00  | ||
| Needs_o2 |
Badlionsfan, +1 Vtpeg, I've got to say some of the worst race coverage I've seen the past couple of years has been Speeds coverage of the AMA Sportbike and Superbike. They are completely fixated on the leaders and give no time to the rest of the field. In NASCAR, if one were to actually watch it, you would see they take time to go thru the field and update what nearly every driver is doing. Speed needs to fix their coverage of the bike races, if they even broadcast them this year. They also need to get rid of Mr. Ssssscott Russssssell, he's way to biased to be commentating, besides being hard on the ears. | ||
| Blake |
>>> Cup races 2 road tracks every year That should say "at least", since other road courses are often included in the schedule too, recent events in Mexico and Canada for instance. http://www.nascar.com/races/tracks/ The above link doesn't show the Mexico track. | ||
| Blake |
The failure to appreciate NASCAR cup racing is due to the inability to put oneself in the driver's seat. Fender to fender, bumper to bumper at 200 mph, pushing 3 to 4 g's for hours, multiple pit stops. Wanna try it Frank?  Your perspective would likely go down the toilet. Great video Ben! | ||
| Vtpeg |
Nationwide ran Road America, Montreal, and Watkins Glen last year. NASCAR East coast touring series used to run Lime Rock Park, but I don't think thats happening any more. I Keep saying I'll get to Montreal for F1 qualifying, but havn't made it yet. Tickets for the full race weekend are real expensive, but one day general admission is doable. One of my better weekends last summer was spent in a motorhome on the infield at Watkins Glen. Rain delayed cup race until Monday, but by excellent planning we had enough beer to last another day. | ||
| Sifo |
The difficulty of racing in circles in underrated. A track like Bristol where you are still turning through most of the straight away and 16 second lap times with very evenly matched cars for 500 laps will take it's toll on the driver. A simple pass can take a number of laps racing side by side. They are always in traffic. It was a better show when the cars looked like the cars out in the parking lot. Nowadays it's gotten too much about aerodynamics. Personally I find watching most forms of racing like Froggy's video. Being at the track is a totally different experience though. | ||
| 86129squids |
OK all youn's- I gots da fix!!! (Oh, and BTW, gots NSFW language...)   Here's another, with better views and language... (Message edited by 86129squids on March 06, 2012) | ||
| Needs_o2 |
Imagine the sponsor money you could get for the side of one of those cheese wagons! | ||
| Dwardo |
I'm in the camp which only found it interesting when the cars were "stock". Actually, being a Hudson buff, I am most interested in 1950s racing. I'll watch films of that any time. I have nothing but admiration for the current drivers ... these men are athletes and gladiators. I understand that the fans go out to cheer their favorite heroes, but ... it seems to me there was a time when just as many fans went out to cheer their favorite makes. That has been completely lost and don't get me started on allowing Toyota to race. Maybe it's just because maybe I like machines better than people sometimes. Machines are easy to understand because they follow a well defined set of rules ... people not so much. Anyway, I think it's a big, expensive yawn. | ||
| Fahren |
Got 2 letters and a four-letter-word for this: A.J. Foyt | ||
| Badlionsfan |
AJ could drive whatever he could fit in. | ||
| Fahren |
Before my time: '64 Indy: | ||
| Badlionsfan |
Btw, has anyone seen the Grand Prix: The Killer Years on Velocity about the 60's and early 70's era? That wasn't fake, staged, etc, it was suicide. | ||
| Britchri10 |
F1 Grad Prix in the '50's, 60's & early '70's was exciting to watch & horrendous to participate in. Many of those drivers came from the WWII era. The value of life was cheaper then than it is now & their attitude to the immense risks they took on those old Euro race tracks was different to anything we all can relate to today. (Yes, I saw the show & I remember watching the F1 races in the late '60's, early 70's) I am happy that driver safety is now a major consideration in F1. Those days were scary! Chris C | ||
| Froggy |
I know it isn't easy, doesn't change the fact that it is boring to watch on TV, and they shove it down your throat on Speed channel. I liked watching it as a kid growing up, but it has only gone downhill since Dale Sr died. (Message edited by froggy on March 07, 2012) | ||
| Dwardo |
Yeah, I agree. I used to like the Speed Channel (back when I had a TV) but now it seems like they should just call it the "NASCAR Channel". Oh well, you gotta go where the money is. | ||
| Blake |
Frank, I can't watch an entire race either, just way too, too long too sit in front of the boob tube. DVR makes it tolerable. Same holds for football games too. | ||
| Kenm123t |
Froggy do you have remote ? Speed carries Nascar because they can make a profit doing so. It has nothing to do with your throat nor is it being shoved any where whats with the Tude ? | ||
| Tbolt_pilot |
I'm a fan of anything that races and makes noise while doing it. But I'll even agree with stick n' ball fans that watching NASCAR on TV sucks. 99% of my live races have been from the top of the trailer in the infield so I can't stand the constant camera angle changes. The commentators talk about who's loose, who gets s run off the corner, and all that...but you can't see it because of the artsy camera work! My first Cup race I watched from right under the flagstand at Dover while working security. WOW!! I got tired just from keeping my balance as each car went by. The cars and the coverage need to go back to the 70's and even early 80's. The times when you could still win with a hairlipped, wrinkled up car. I do praise the safety of today's cars though. I have crawled all over cars from the 50's on up and some of them you couldn't pay me enough to qualify, much less race. Timo31.... That video of the Mods brought back fond memories of many a loooong weekend of race, fix, race, fix, race, repeat, in Nebraska and Iowa. We ran against 4 Nat'l champs on any given night. Tough racing. | ||
| Road_thing |
Nothing (motorsports-wise) gets my blood pumping like speedway racing. rt |
