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Bigdaddy
Posted on Monday, November 14, 2011 - 06:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

@Ziptab. Not only did I rock a reverb unit I did it through a FM Converter. I also had some kind of power amplifier that said "power" across it when it was illuminated. Awesome system too : ) I used that same setup in a 1969 Charger and then in a 1970 Monte Carlo. I don't remember what happened to that mess, but it may still be at my dad's place.
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Froggy
Posted on Monday, November 14, 2011 - 06:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Electronics are electronics, I can figure anything out without effort : )

I remember at Buelltoberfest a few years back, Odie was getting a call on his phone and couldn't figure out how to answer, took me about .2 seconds to work it out despite never touching an Android based phone before that.

I'll fire up the googles and see what the deal with the scotch tape is, sounds interesting.
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Pwnzor
Posted on Monday, November 14, 2011 - 07:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

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Kenm123t
Posted on Monday, November 14, 2011 - 07:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hey froggy no cheating and Googling
What is a SuperHetrodyne circuit why is used and what is the most common use ?
# 2 what is a Wheatstone Bridge Common uses and how does it work?
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Strokizator
Posted on Monday, November 14, 2011 - 07:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

There are probably youngstigators who don't even know what a wooden pencil or a cassette tape is.

I told a kid to pipe down because they sounded like a broken record. She asked me "What's that?"
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Froggy
Posted on Monday, November 14, 2011 - 07:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


quote:

What is a SuperHetrodyne circuit




Never heard of it.


quote:

Wheatstone Bridge Common uses and how does it work?




It is a bridge circuit that measures resistance. That is about all I know of it off the top my head.
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Sleez
Posted on Monday, November 14, 2011 - 07:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

super hets, love em!!
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Brumbear
Posted on Monday, November 14, 2011 - 08:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

DA FUNK
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7WghzyAJ0s&feature =related
now thats a tape deck
DYN-O-MITE!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Just_ziptab
Posted on Monday, November 14, 2011 - 11:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think my reverb unit came from J.C. Whitney.....:-(
Had a friend that could "rock" a juke box and totally change "Smoke On The Water".
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Rick_a
Posted on Monday, November 14, 2011 - 11:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have one left, a recorder. My Aiwa walkman took a poop recently.
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Lemonchili_x1
Posted on Tuesday, November 15, 2011 - 12:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

# 2 what is a Wheatstone Bridge Common uses and how does it work?
Without googling??? Awwww, c'mon...
I can remember that when I was a lab tech we used to make load cells by wiring up strain gauges in a wheatstone bridge arrangement. It was 15+ years ago now... Usually there were 4 gauges in the bridge arrangement, and the wheatstone bridge arrangement gave a more accurate average (and temperature compensated?) resistance than using a single strain gauge. If memory serves correctly there was a way to use only 2 gauges and 2 resistors to keep the cost down.

The load cells we made were used in stress testing machines to measure the yield and fail loads of different materials and different finishes.

What is a SuperHetrodyne circuit
I should know, but it's been too long...
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Blake
Posted on Tuesday, November 15, 2011 - 06:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Svh Posted on Sunday, November 13, 2011 - 10:52 pm:       
The major music industry announced just a few weeks ago that CD's will be phased out beginning at the end of 2012.

Digital is the future for sure


CD's are digital. They're "solid state" too. Funny to see that term being applied to chipset-based data storage devices. Hard disk drives are also solid star. When was the last vacuum tube base memory device used?

First computer I ever used had cassette tape storage. Cassettes can be digital too. : D So too a vinyl record, though I don't know of any used for that type of data storage. They just have too many reliability and durability issues in player and media compared to laser disks. I sure don't miss the hiss, most irritating when playing classical music; lots of quite portions in that.

The '02 Ford has cassette tape and CD slots. Cassette only gets used for iPhone RCA jack adapter.

Relying solely on electron based storage media, puts a music collection at risk for HEMP. Other issues may take priority, but sooner or later, we'll want our tunes.
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Pwnzor
Posted on Tuesday, November 15, 2011 - 07:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hard disk drives are also solid star

I assume you mean solid state... I'll have to correct you on that one.

No moving parts in solid state.
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Kenm123t
Posted on Tuesday, November 15, 2011 - 07:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Lemon you do Buiilding automation Look up the honey well wire wound Pot tstats on the old vavs and dampers its in all the actuators you use buried in the circuit ran by the PLC but some still use the bridge and not just a hall sensor and counter.
Froggy ever have am CB 10 meter walkie talkies then you had a Superhetrodyne circuit
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Drkside79
Posted on Tuesday, November 15, 2011 - 11:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I assume you mean solid state... I'll have to correct you on that one.

Their are solid state HDs now they are quick but tend to be smaller and MUCH more expensive.

In general Pwn is right MOST HD's are not solid state.
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Drkside79
Posted on Tuesday, November 15, 2011 - 11:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Oh and on tapes.


Tapes suck. They've always sucked and they will continue to suck.

They were better than 8 tracks but that's not saying much.

Records CDs and Currant dig files all are better in Audio quality and ease of finding your song.
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Froggy
Posted on Tuesday, November 15, 2011 - 11:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ken, no clue what you are talking about again!
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Drkside79
Posted on Tuesday, November 15, 2011 - 11:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I guess technically a HD stores data in one spot or "solid State and then spins the disk to that location....
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Pwnzor
Posted on Tuesday, November 15, 2011 - 12:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

In general Pwn is right MOST HD's are not solid state.

Hard Disk Drives are not solid state.

SSD's are not HDD's.
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Tiltcylinder
Posted on Tuesday, November 15, 2011 - 12:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Everything vinyl went on cassette in the 70's... got my first CD player and all the CD's went on cassettes...they worked in the cars and the walkman. Times have certainly changed. Just recently converted all the remaining LP's, 45's and cassettes to digital and now I get to listen to the 'lost' music from the archives, it's great. Gave away all the cassettes and almost all the vinyl to a co-worker who collects that stuff... I was glad to be rid of it. Carting around six milk crates of music was plain silly, and now all that music fits neatly on a thumb drive! As a bonus, I sold the turntable and cassette converters for about 90 percent of their purchase prices. I left in all the hiss and pop from the old recordings, as the software to remove it seemed to 'dull' the sound a bit.
The current cage ('94 Jeep) had a cassette, but now sports an el'cheapo radio that plays mp3's from a disc, a thumbdrive or an SD card. The GPS's on the bikes use an SD card for music as well... so it's a great way to transport the tunes from vehicle to vehicle. Glad to own just a surround sound with Ipod input now. Gone is the four foot tall rack, filled with components and a hundred patch cables in the rear. Plus 1,900 albums easily fit on a 1 terrabyte drive.
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Lemonchili_x1
Posted on Tuesday, November 15, 2011 - 10:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If it helps solid state can be summarised as ...those circuits or devices built entirely from solid materials and in which the electrons, or other charge carriers, are confined entirely within the solid material.
The term is often used to contrast with the earlier technologies of vacuum and gas-discharge tube devices and it is also conventional to exclude electro-mechanical devices (relays, switches, mechanical timers, and other devices with moving parts) from the term solid state.

Pinched from wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solid-state_(electron ics)

(Don't forget solid state components are used in both digital and analog circuits)

So while a hard drive contains solid state elctronics for its control and transfer of data, the actual data storage is still by a magnetic process like tape.

Look up the honey well wire wound Pot tstats on the old vavs and dampers its in all the actuators you use buried in the circuit ran by the PLC but some still use the bridge and not just a hall sensor and counter.
Cool. It's been quite a while since I've seen any of the old Honeywell gear.
I had to look up the superheterodyne circuits, as soon as I saw the stuff about mixing to an intermediate frequency I recognised it. I haven't really touched that kind of stuff since college : (

I don't miss tape, mainly because I have a bad habit of not putting them back in their cases... my cars used to end up with tapes everywhere... but I used to love making mix tapes, and I think the walkman was one of the best inventions of all time, I couldn't have survived my teenage years without it

There's two things that annoy me about the change to downloaded music rather than something physical like a cd or vinyl:
1. The focus on singles instead of albums.
2. No artwork, credits or liner notes with your download.
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Froggy
Posted on Wednesday, November 16, 2011 - 09:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


quote:

There's two things that annoy me about the change to downloaded music rather than something physical like a cd or vinyl:
1. The focus on singles instead of albums.
2. No artwork, credits or liner notes with your download.




I have the same issue with digital downloads of games. I have over 500 games on my Steam account. It doesn't bother me too much mostly due to the convenience and getting the games dirt cheap, but I do miss the manuals full of art, back stories, and other little bonus. Even physical retail games seem to be lacking these days, often consist of just a disk and a single page paper with no information on it. You have to pay for overpriced "collector editions" to get something other than just a disk these days.
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Buellhusker
Posted on Wednesday, November 16, 2011 - 10:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I still have 8 track players in our 1967 Pontiac GTO and 1967 Cadillac Coupe DeVille the GTO also has the factory GM Reverb unit.
I am so old as to have a reel to reel wire recorder these were used before reel to reel tape recorders.
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Kyrocket
Posted on Wednesday, November 16, 2011 - 11:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"No artwork, credits or liner notes with your download"


I think I have, somewhere, somehow, alot of the old cd box artwork. Remember those? CD's used to come in cardboard boxes before these plastic cut, tear, rip, chainsaw proof packages. I think the store takes them out for you now but that used to not be the case. I've also got some old mid 80's white on black silk screen banners about 4' X 4' of GnR, Cinderella and Motley Crue just waiting for a man cave to be hung up. I wonder what the wife would think of me redecorating the bedroom. If I don't log in for some time it's because my arms don't work too well; )
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Blake
Posted on Wednesday, November 16, 2011 - 01:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

solid-state: Characteristic of or relating to the physical properties of solid materials, especially to the electromagnetic, thermodynamic, and structural properties of crystalline solids.

Excerpted from The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language


But now also to mean other than electro-mechanical devices? Great, another corruption of language to suit the fad lingo of the day. If not solid state, then what state is a vinyl record, cassette tape, HDD, or CD/DVD?

The term "solid state" was introduced to describe electronic devices that did not rely on vaccuum tubes, right?

I guess you could argue that the electro-magnetic field of magnetic media is not a solid state, not even matter, just a field. Likewise laser light is not a solid either.

Okay then, I'm good with it. As long as it can be made reasonable and logical, I can rest comfortably. : ]
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Lemonchili_x1
Posted on Wednesday, November 16, 2011 - 07:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

But now also to mean other than electro-mechanical devices?
It's not as bad as that, that line I put in about exclude electro-mechanical devices is a little misleading.
To me solid-state means it uses semiconductors to control current flow. Solid-state electronics vs electro-mechanical is more to differentiate what equipment is being used.
For example we often use "solid state relays" (SSR's) instead of contactors/relays for heater control. The SSR's have no moving parts, are silent, and can be used to pulse the heater rapidly. They are called "solid state" not because they aren't a mechanical relay, but because they use semi-conductors to control the current flow.
In theory heater control could be done with tubes and this would be neither "solid-state" or electro-mechanical.

I wonder what the wife would think of me redecorating the bedroom.
Do it ; )
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Pkforbes87
Posted on Wednesday, November 16, 2011 - 07:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Froggy, you're my age aren't you?

At 3 and 4 years old, I was using scotch tape on cassettes to record hooked on phonics from 45's. (parents were frugal to say the least, and didn't like constantly replacing needles broken by a toddler)

Always thought that the ability to read and write pre-kindergarten kept me one step ahead throughout my school years.
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Froggy
Posted on Wednesday, November 16, 2011 - 07:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Blake, quit overthinking it! Flash based storage is truly solid state, its one solid unit. Cassettes and floppy disks had soft mediums anyway : )


quote:

Froggy, you're my age aren't you?




Yep, but I really didn't have tapes growing up, I still have my first CD player that is roughly 20 years old now, even then I didn't even use CDs outside of computer software and games. While you were farting around with your recording, I was busy blasting away at giant jellyfish aliens in Metroid : )

Since we are on the subject, remember this?



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Svh
Posted on Wednesday, November 16, 2011 - 08:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yup. A friend got one shortly after the movie came out. It did NOT work as well as in the movie! : ) Which is still a hilarious movie all these years later.

(Message edited by svh on November 16, 2011)
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Pkforbes87
Posted on Wednesday, November 16, 2011 - 09:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yep, I remember the Talkboy. But I got toys like that after they got old. My first video game system was a used Sega Genesis. I got it free from one of my dad's coworkers when her son replaced it with the newly released Playstation.
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