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Maddiemsu
Posted on Wednesday, November 16, 2011 - 06:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

and here is the response I just received from EBR. I know I'm not the only one who is curious about this. I asked about dealers in Las Vegas which is why EBR used NV in the explanation.

Matt,

We are slowly adding dealers. It is actually kind of expensive and time consuming, as most states require that a manufacturer who wants to sell to dealers in these states pay fees and fill out many legal documents which require legal fees. It also takes months to complete this.

So customers can own bikes in all states, as the motorcycles meet all standards. A dealer in NV could buy a bike from a dealer in another state where we are registered as a manufacturer and sell to a customer, or a NV customer could go to another state and buy an EBR and register it in NV. But we can't sell to a dealer until we become registered.

Thank you,
Customer Support
Erik Buell Racing
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Thursday, November 17, 2011 - 03:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

.... or look at ushighlands' kiosk virtual dealership option.
It cuts the building and the required rolling inventory out of the equation.... and we all know what we want
I don't know how many times i heard that on the sales floor.
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Court
Posted on Thursday, November 17, 2011 - 11:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>>>It cuts the building and the required rolling inventory out of the equation....

But it doesn't alleviate the requirement to register as a foreign corporation, obtain a certificate of domestication, purchase and provide proof of insurance, purchase and provide commercial bonds, obtain state tax registration and numbers and all the various statutory requirements.

This, figure about $50,000 per state, has to happen to even legally sell a t-shirt at a race track.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Thursday, November 17, 2011 - 12:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

And we wonder why Chinese junk (some of which isn't junk these days) is so cheap and prevalent.
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Court
Posted on Thursday, November 17, 2011 - 01:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>>>Chinese junk (some of which isn't junk these days)

The salient qualifier being "these days".

There was a time when you could pick up a guitar made in China and feel it was junk.

No longer true.

I have some expensive guitars, made in California, Pennsylvania, Tennessee and Montana and just bought one made in China (after struggling to find a 2002 that was made in Korea) and the quality and sound are amazing.

What the Chinese don't have, at this point, is the consistency you'd see in an American product.
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Daves
Posted on Thursday, November 17, 2011 - 02:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

at least they emailed you back. I didn't even get that much consideration from EBR.
How soon they forget?
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Moxnix
Posted on Thursday, November 17, 2011 - 02:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ah, they are 110% on a mission to rebuild the company with about 50% of the people they need and 10% of the money. I wouldn't answer much email were I that busy either, nor would I be experiencing the enjoyment of hanging out here.


Ever hopeful, I await an IPO.

(Message edited by moxnix on November 17, 2011)
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Xdigitalx
Posted on Thursday, November 17, 2011 - 02:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Some one should buy an 1190RS and rent it to us other folk to use at track days.... I can't wait to see what E.B.R.'s other bikes are gonna look like.
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Court
Posted on Thursday, November 17, 2011 - 02:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>>>>about 50% of the people they need and 10% of the money.

If only that were true . . . .

You can do the math but figure about 11% of the people (and that's a stretch) and less than 1% of the money.
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Maddiemsu
Posted on Thursday, November 17, 2011 - 03:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I just followed Court's teachings on email. Title block started with "Not a Rush" and then the specific topic. Kept it short and specific to my question and threw in some appreciation/encouragement for what EBR has going on. Didn't really expect a reply and would have been fine if I never heard back, but low and behold nine days later
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Biffdotorg
Posted on Thursday, November 17, 2011 - 05:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

hmm, I think the terms Boutique and Mail-Order bike have come up in other conversations when someone asked the question, "who are the existing dealers already"

Are those the appropriate terms to use when a company is using all resources in getting the business going other than building a dealer network? I think that is fair. That's not bashing, it's just the truth. Chicken before the egg.
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Brumbear
Posted on Thursday, November 17, 2011 - 06:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That sucks a lot !!!!!!!
I know some forklift companies sell the machines from 1 location they are shipped right from the 1 local to the end user.The support dealers if you will sell parts and do warranty and service just no machines. I wonder if with the internet something like that would be possible for EBR ?
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J2blue
Posted on Thursday, November 17, 2011 - 06:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Good golly I had no idea that American manufacturers were so hen pecked by the various states to do business! I get why a dealership would have expensive paper work to file in the state where it exists, but an American manufacturer??? Geesh. I wonder if some states are more friendly than others?

I obviously lead a sheltered life when it comes to business savvy.
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