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Blake
| Posted on Thursday, November 03, 2011 - 10:21 pm: |
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Investigative journalism exposing the fascist liars rocks. |
Fahren
| Posted on Thursday, November 03, 2011 - 10:43 pm: |
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Old news, Blake. They announced it themselves, over a month ago, that they were throwing in their support for OWS. Ho hum. |
Boltrider
| Posted on Friday, November 04, 2011 - 12:54 am: |
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It does shine a light on the professional protesting aspect of it. The NYCC employees look to be drawing a paycheck by holding a sign and going to the protests. Of course, the Huffpost article says, "That's why NYCC members joined thousands of New Yorkers on May 12 to demand that Wall Street banks pay their fair share and it's why we'll be back on Wednesday Oct. 5 to continue our stand against the big banks and show our support to the protesters who have been on Wall Street for days." The NYCC employees were there as part of their job, and they were paid for it, so there's truth to the contention that this occupy movement is using professional protesters. Or maybe it's the other way around and the professional protesters are using the occupy movement as an opportunity for what it is they want. Whatever the case, some in those crowds are being paid to be there. (Message edited by boltrider on November 04, 2011) |
Blake
| Posted on Friday, November 04, 2011 - 01:58 am: |
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Fahren, You obviously didn't read the article. It's not old news. The fascists are all in a tizzy over being found out, lies are being told, people being fired, documents being shredded, heavy-handed surveillance being conducted. Idiots. |
Aesquire
| Posted on Friday, November 04, 2011 - 06:47 am: |
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Blake you are trying to tell us a company that is famous for election fraud, money laundering and supporting criminal activities is dishonest? Next you'll be telling us that after Congress cut funding to that criminal company it changed it's name and the President and his minions funded it anyway. Yes folks, YOU are paying the salaries of the professional protesters. |
Ft_bstrd
| Posted on Friday, November 04, 2011 - 08:30 am: |
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Ha ha! Astroturfers! Just like every other Progressive "people's protest". There's proof that Progressive protesters get paid. Still waiting on proof of the paychecks coming from the Koch Bros, Fox News, and Corporate America for the Tea Party folks. |
Jaimec
| Posted on Friday, November 04, 2011 - 08:54 am: |
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Oh wait! Sensationalized reporting from Fox News about OWS?? What a shocker! They're always so "Fair and Balanced." <snort> |
Ft_bstrd
| Posted on Friday, November 04, 2011 - 09:00 am: |
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Non reporting of potentially damaging stories for Progressives on CNN, MSNBC, and network news outlets? What a shocker! Sometimes fair and balanced is simply reporting the story other news outlets refuse to. |
Fahren
| Posted on Friday, November 04, 2011 - 09:29 am: |
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Oh, they report on it. You just prefer Fox's spin over MSNBC's. There are plenty of fascist liars left and right, ripe for the exposing, e.g., THIS. |
Ft_bstrd
| Posted on Friday, November 04, 2011 - 09:59 am: |
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"What President Obama has failed to do is secure the gains that America paid for with an extremely dear cost -- 4,400 American lives, nearly a trillion dollars in expenditures, and we have nothing to show for it. And we may look at a Maliki government which has admitted they cannot secure the peace. They've said themselves they need eight more years to secure the peace. But, of course, Iran is putting the pressure on. They don't want any American presence, because Iran wants to come in and be the dominant hegemon in that region and exercise influence. That's the problem. And this is a country who not only wants to dominate Middle East politics, but they also are hell-bent on making sure that they can build and deliver a nuclear weapon sufficient to wipe Israel off the map, and also to use it against the United States. That's why President Obama has made a tremendous tactical error when he chose to put daylight between the United States and Israel. He sent a signal to Israel's hostile enemies that they can go ahead and be aggressive, and Iran certainly is. " M. Bachmann Sounds correct to me. Which part was a lie? Obermann? Really? |
Sifo
| Posted on Friday, November 04, 2011 - 10:12 am: |
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Oh, they report on it. You just prefer Fox's spin over MSNBC's. Let's see... Fox News reporting known facts vs. Olberman on MSNBC denying the known facts. Kind of explains why the ratings are what the are. +1 for the free market! |
Fahren
| Posted on Friday, November 04, 2011 - 10:13 am: |
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Ft, I posted MSNBC because you said there was no coverage of this "story," and you were wrong. I posted it to prove a point. What part is a lie?
quote:Ok, we get it. Bachmann, like McCain before her, wants a 100-year occupation of Iraq. Boo hoo. She not only forgets who put us in Iraq in the first place by passing it off as a 'bipartisan' thing without even blinking her eyes about the lies that were told to convince Congress to approve it, but then she has the nerve to suggest that a deal negotiated by the Republican President George W. Bush for troop withdrawal is somehow Barack Obama giving up. This goes beyond being batsh*t crazy. It's evil, and worse, it plays on stupid people who actually believe whatever comes out of that stupid woman's mouth. The only reason she's still worthy of any attention is because she's serving her neocon dominionist masters by going on shows like Blitzer's and lying through her tiny little razor-sharp ratlike teeth about who is responsible for what.
Nail. Head. |
Sifo
| Posted on Friday, November 04, 2011 - 10:27 am: |
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quote:Ok, we get it. Bachmann, like McCain before her, wants a 100-year occupation of Iraq. Boo hoo. She not only forgets who put us in Iraq in the first place by passing it off as a 'bipartisan' thing without even blinking her eyes about the lies that were told to convince Congress to approve it, but then she has the nerve to suggest that a deal negotiated by the Republican President George W. Bush for troop withdrawal is somehow Barack Obama giving up. This goes beyond being batsh*t crazy. It's evil, and worse, it plays on stupid people who actually believe whatever comes out of that stupid woman's mouth. The only reason she's still worthy of any attention is because she's serving her neocon dominionist masters by going on shows like Blitzer's and lying through her tiny little razor-sharp ratlike teeth about who is responsible for what.
What part of that is supposed to be true? |
Sifo
| Posted on Friday, November 04, 2011 - 10:30 am: |
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Ft, I posted MSNBC because you said there was no coverage of this "story," and you were wrong. I posted it to prove a point. Denying a story is hardly covering it BTW. |
Ft_bstrd
| Posted on Friday, November 04, 2011 - 10:31 am: |
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Nail. Head. Face. Palm. |
Reindog
| Posted on Friday, November 04, 2011 - 10:37 am: |
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"Boo hoo" "This goes beyond being batsh*t crazy" "it plays on stupid people" "whatever comes out of that stupid woman's mouth" "serving her neocon dominionist masters" "lying through her tiny little razor-sharp ratlike teeth" You might consider using a different hammer to prove your point. This is not news but hate speech. What's next? "Get on the train, Jew". |
Fahren
| Posted on Friday, November 04, 2011 - 10:37 am: |
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What part of that is supposed to be true? Oh, let's start with the SOFA (Status of Forces Agreement) on the withdrawal of troops from Iraq. Just f'rinstance. Denying a story is hardly covering it BTW. Sure it is, if you see it as an absurd, diversionary, mud-slinging tactic attempting to discredit a 2.5-month-old protest. Just a different point of view, to keep things fair and balanced :-) |
Ft_bstrd
| Posted on Friday, November 04, 2011 - 10:39 am: |
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Sure it is, if you see it as an absurd, diversionary, mud-slinging tactic attempting to discredit a 2.5-month-old protest. Just a different point of view, to keep things fair and balanced :-) One is a news story with facts. The other is an opinion from Overdone. Hardly fair or balanced. |
Sifo
| Posted on Friday, November 04, 2011 - 10:44 am: |
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Oh, let's start with the SOFA (Status of Forces Agreement) on the withdrawal of troops from Iraq. Just f'rinstance. I guess you could start with that; If it was mentioned. Sure it is, if you see it as an absurd, diversionary, mud-slinging tactic attempting to discredit a 2.5-month-old protest. Just a different point of view, to keep things fair and balanced :-) Denial of facts isn't coverage of a story. It's cover up of a story. |
Blake
| Posted on Friday, November 04, 2011 - 10:52 am: |
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Whoa! Unbelievable! What a great example of willful blindness to reality and self-delusion in action. I never would have believed it, if I hadn't seen it so clearly demonstrated. It's chilling, and explains how we ended up with such an incompetent liar for president. You don't have to fool all of the people, just enough to get elected. We're in major trouble folks. |
Blake
| Posted on Friday, November 04, 2011 - 10:53 am: |
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Patrick, Shocking, isn't it? LOL. |
Fahren
| Posted on Friday, November 04, 2011 - 11:10 am: |
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Blake, you just really want to keep up the divisive rhetoric that will tear this country apart. Bachmann is a liar, Obama is a liar. The system is broken, and we need a re-load. It's so much bigger than arguing over such petty red-blue fake issues. Don't be distracted. Try this on for size. |
Sifo
| Posted on Friday, November 04, 2011 - 11:17 am: |
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Fahren, I notice that you have a tendency to suddenly switch to a completely different topic after posting completely indefensible positions. |
Reindog
| Posted on Friday, November 04, 2011 - 11:25 am: |
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Divisive rhetoric? Have you actually listened to 0????????????????? This bastard is nothing but class warfare divisiveness. 0 and the idiots who vote for him are the ones killing this country. We MUST return to Constitutionally mandated limits of power or we WILL die. Greece is just the beginning of the movie. Read Atlas Shrugged. It is no longer a work of fiction. |
Reindog
| Posted on Friday, November 04, 2011 - 11:26 am: |
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Yeah, I too noticed Chris changes the channel instead of admitting error. |
Fahren
| Posted on Friday, November 04, 2011 - 11:31 am: |
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Sifo, it's because I truly believe it becomes a waste of time to argue over trivial stuff when your house is on fire. Or, "fiddling, while Rome burns," if you prefer. And what I posted is a link to a much more pertinent article to look at the structural system flaws that, if unattended, will ultimately make these petty arguments over old ACORNs look incredibly short-sighted. I have no problem with Blake calling out liars. Just do it all around, and work to keep liars like Bachmann and Obama out of power. But just electing new, bought politicians to replace the old, bought politicians won't change anything. |
Fahren
| Posted on Friday, November 04, 2011 - 11:34 am: |
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Greece is indeed just a preview of coming attractions. I thought the whole idea of the EU was to prevent the over-stepping of one country into another. But it seems we have Germany succeeding now where it failed in two past world wars, stripping a foreign state of its sovereign status, and imposing its will over them. Look out Italy, Portugal, Spain, and on, and on... |
Sifo
| Posted on Friday, November 04, 2011 - 11:37 am: |
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And what I posted is a link to a much more pertinent article to look at the structural system flaws that, if unattended, will ultimately make these petty arguments over old ACORNs look incredibly short-sighted. What you posted was completely off topic and he wants you to subscribe to read part 2 where he will share his conclusions. Feel free to start your own thread anytime you feel the need though. I have no problem with Blake calling out liars. Just do it all around, and work to keep liars like Bachmann and Obama out of power. But just electing new, bought politicians to replace the old, bought politicians won't change anything. What lies are you talking about from Bachmann? Not that it has anything to do with what we are talking about. On big difference between Bachman and BO is that BO is our President, Bachman will likely never be. Talk about bringing up the trivial! |
Sifo
| Posted on Friday, November 04, 2011 - 11:41 am: |
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Greece is indeed just a preview of coming attractions. I thought the whole idea of the EU was to prevent the over-stepping of one country into another. But it seems we have Germany succeeding now where it failed in two past world wars, stripping a foreign state of its sovereign status, and imposing its will over them. Look out Italy, Portugal, Spain, and on, and on... How in the world do you see Germany doing this to Greece. Greece has made it's own problems and now is making demands about how it's bail out should be handled. The EU wants to fleece Germany in this because they have done fairly well for themselves. Gee, more class warfare! |
Fahren
| Posted on Friday, November 04, 2011 - 11:48 am: |
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Sorry to take things off topic. I will put my money where my mouth is and shut up now about what I believe is a truly trivial non-issue. Blake, continue to champion truth, and keep an open mind and heart! :-) |
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