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Moxnix
Posted on Saturday, October 15, 2011 - 12:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The US is probably getting ready for a revolution. Back in the Cold War days, the CIA was asked to do a portrait of a country that might have a revolution. It decided that such a country would have three characteristics:

A big gap between rich and poor.

A middle class that was disappearing...or one that never existed in the first place.

A lot of people with a grudge.

The US fits each of these criteria. And then some others the spooks hadn’t thought about. The U6 broad measure of unemployment is going up...with 16.5% of the population without work. There are 6.2 million people who have been looking for a job for more than 6 months.

Americans are $7 trillion poorer, according to David Rosenberg, than they were 4 years ago — and property prices are still going down.

Yes, there’s also a Great Correction in progress. It, along with the policies of the US government, grind the faces of the poor.

Millions of marginally successful people think the system has failed them. Youth joblessness is at Great Depression levels. More than 45 million are on food stamps.

People come to think what they must think when they must think it.

So, a person who feels he has failed must come to terms with it. He must find a reason that gets himself off the hook. It must be someone else’s fault.

And now we see the "tolerant" people camping out in a show of "intolerance."
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Saturday, October 15, 2011 - 09:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I really thought they were going to wait until 2016 to pull this type of shiate, but I think they see that their guy is not getting reelected and if Cain is running, they can't play the 'race' card they way they have in the past

The new commissioned cadre doesnt do their first boot camp until March of next year - I am betting that it is a bigger class than originally called for.
Remember - ARMED, 'health' corps, respondant only to the president in time of national 'emergency'
think CIA advisors for proxy and you are very near their intended use.
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Moxnix
Posted on Saturday, October 15, 2011 - 10:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well, City, you're obviously one of us now. Saddled for the rest of your life with the urge to fight off whatever threatens to enclose you. Once upon a time I realized how much of an outsider I was, repelled by the very institutions that paid me. Good luck.

Have you thought of moving to N. Dakota or Alaska?
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Kenm123t
Posted on Sunday, October 16, 2011 - 09:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

ND the 3rd largest Nuclear Arsenal on the planet! My ex was from ND great place love it and the people. Just too depressing in winter summer and fall are soo beautiful!
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Sunday, October 16, 2011 - 11:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Moxnix, check my post history, I am headed off continent. I sold all my bikes, plussed up on ammo and guns, I am headed to Ukraine.

A corrupt niche itself, but they have no love of liberalist socialism,and are all to ready to kill a terrorist. Their debt is not tied to the dollar or the Euro, but more directly to Russia and the oil.

Life is actually better for me there, I get interviews, clients, and contracts - here everyone is so wonky with apoxia that there is no movement; plus with 14% unemployment - there is entirely too much competition ... if indeed you are not weeded out by TaleoX before you even get to phone call.

My opportunities and personal future is better overseas. Lawn chair and vodka from the roof to watch it happen. It gets worse before this gets better - they still have the killing to do. Read Lenin "What is to be done" you know its on its way.
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Moxnix
Posted on Sunday, October 16, 2011 - 02:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

As an unreconstructed former ex-pat, I get it. Tough I prefer the high desert with few people. Warm regards and best wishes,
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Whatever
Posted on Sunday, October 16, 2011 - 05:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

This guy is just a complete joke... "Mr. Self Made Man" has close connection to Koch brothers, and on top of it he is a bigot...

I really hope he gets the GOP nomination because he seems more and more insane every day...

Hey, I know, why don't we just shoot all the Mexicans, before they get over the border... (sarcasm intended)

I agree with immigration system reform more after watching this turd and I am pretty staunch on prosecuting illegal immigration...

Hey, maybe he could just go back to Africa and make the US a better place... (yes, I have to spell it out for some, this was meant to be inflammitory... again, sarcasm intended... although some people have the inabality to read between the lines)

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/politics/2011/10/ 16/sot-cain-electric-border-fence.wvlt?hpt=hp_bn1

(Message edited by Whatever on October 16, 2011)
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Sifo
Posted on Sunday, October 16, 2011 - 06:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Is there any thing the Koch bros. aren't supposedly involved in? I never even heard of them more than a year ago. Now they are tied to everything anti-liberal.
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Whatever
Posted on Sunday, October 16, 2011 - 06:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

WHO do you think is funding Cain ??? I don't thing the average Tea Bagger has deep pockets, do you ???
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Sifo
Posted on Sunday, October 16, 2011 - 07:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It sounds like they are funding new things every day. Is there anything they aren't funding?
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Kenm123t
Posted on Sunday, October 16, 2011 - 07:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hey Liberal YOUR RACISM IS SHOWING CHAR
We would not be in as bad a mess as we are and starting another war in Uganda if you losers had really looked at BHO
The world will be a safer place when liberals learn to curb thier HATE !
The entire postion of the OWS crowd is hate Your own attitude with BHO if you oppose him its becasue your a Racist So by your own example you are a racist. What a band of Idiots to tell man he is racist to his own race because he doesnt fit your pigeon hole That is the ultimate in prejudice! A man can only be what the Libs allow him to be. Your self loathimg must be tearing you apart in order to forment so much hate! We deal with this liberal crap from losers like you all the time I have mixed race kids so keep your liberal crap and filth in your sick twisted mind where it belongs
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Moxnix
Posted on Sunday, October 16, 2011 - 07:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Pardon me whilst I blame all the misogyny in the world on those pesky Koch brothers and Herman Cain. All the misandry in the world I blame on the public university system and poor toilet training.
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Whatever
Posted on Sunday, October 16, 2011 - 07:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Back to my original point... saying we should electrocute Mexicans and saying we should ban building of Mosques is bigoted.

Saying all blacks are brainwashed is racist also and the guy must not have half a brain if he thinks he might get a nomination on that.

I really tried to listen to what he is saying since he is winning support, but it is really absurd.

He is probably just an attention wh#re like Palin is. It is sad really. Can't the GOP get it together ?

And on the other hand...

While I respect what protestors are doing, it, in my book is not the way to get anything done.

Register voters.
Educate people on the issues.
Talk to strangers at bus stops.
Try to work within the system.

Learn how democracy really works !
It is not pretty, but the law of the land is that ANYONE can run for office wether it is local or national...

Everyone has their own experience that forms their own opinion.

On the day that the Martin Luther King, Jr. monument is dedicated, why is it ok to have someone who is ignorant and hateful and spreads separatism like it is patriotic as a serious contender?

Are not we supposed to love thy neighbor or some such sh*t?

If I were a Republican I would be emberassed... that is all.

I have to thank everyone on here because I have gotten involved in politics on a very grassroots level because you all scare me with some of your super strange ideas...

It has added meaning to this difficult time and I am meeting some really incredible and amazing people locally.

Spent 9 hours yesterday with some super positive young people who are full of endless energy (no not at a protest, but at a workshop).

Believe me, Cain and the protests are not even on the radar for those of us who are ready to really roll up our sleeves and get stuff done in hopes that we can make the world a better place, and in doing that become a better person...
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Aesquire
Posted on Sunday, October 16, 2011 - 07:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Koch Bros....Soros....? So we get a choice of which purchaser buys us a Prez?
Ok, that's simple. Pick the one who isn't for the stuff I'm MOST against.

Or better yet, we could simple choose based on who doesn't like the guy or girl.
If Karl Rove and Dick Cheney, both "establishment" R's as you could ask for, hate some one, wouldn't you like them more?

I NEVER expect any politician to agree with me on everything. Not going to happen.
Fiscal Conservative Hawk social liberal Conservationists who want Orbiting Power Sats don't seem to be running.

I just count on the D's to keep the R's from imposing a religious authoritarian state, and vice versa. The R's are pi$$ing me off because they have done a poor job of stopping the D's. So I admit my tactic isn't paying off as well as I like.
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Whatever
Posted on Sunday, October 16, 2011 - 07:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ken, get off of your "self loathing" kick agian... you are starting to sound like a ten year old (or as someone put it the Taliban)... and only motivating me more to work against small minded people like you...

I call a spade a spade. I do NOT CARE what color, religion, politics someone is, he is a bigot if he hates large groups of people. PERIOD.
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Whatever
Posted on Sunday, October 16, 2011 - 07:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Keep it up Ken and you will get banned also...
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Whatever
Posted on Sunday, October 16, 2011 - 07:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

And... just in case you have not read it...

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I agree to treat others as I would hope to be treated myself (be excellent to each other); I will only post commentary with a respectful demeanor just as if I am speaking face to face. In all cases I will avoid flame wars and hateful, malicious, derisive, insulting or divisive commentary. I understand that malicious derisive personal commentary in any form is entirely unwelcome on BadWeB.)
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Aesquire
Posted on Sunday, October 16, 2011 - 08:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Kenm123t,
It seems these guys have been around a while. Stopping piracy & terrorism is a good thing. Maybe we'd be involved there if an R was in charge.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord's_Resistance_Army

Actually reading the wiki... I like Uganda less. There's more than one nutball group out there and some real nasty regimes. Who's fighting who?
I'd ask why them why now... but that sounds like I'm bashing Bush..

Politically, since it's a "christian" group, the admin probably figures it can get brownie points overseas and domestic. I don't agree, but I could be wrong about the Admin's intentions and the result.

This may be a new war. Or a training action as in the Philippines. It's not a continuation of the war on Jihad, with all it's fronts.
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Moxnix
Posted on Sunday, October 16, 2011 - 08:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Cannibals, Christians, Christian cannibals, rice Christians, juju men paying good money for albinos to be carved up for amulet charms, eating pygmies . . . . TIA.

On this side of the pond, we watch the end of empire, bread and circuses for the lumpen, passports for the prudent.
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Moxnix
Posted on Sunday, October 16, 2011 - 08:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Change leads you in a different direction...but not necessarily in the direction you want to go. An Obama can look great when you’ve got a Bush in the White House. Then you get an Obama and you really begin to wonder...
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Strokizator
Posted on Sunday, October 16, 2011 - 08:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Jeeze-louise, I take a weekend off and come back to this! No wonder I ride alone. Somehow I doubt though that this country's problems are because we aren't liberal-progessive enough.
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Iamike
Posted on Sunday, October 16, 2011 - 08:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If I had a choice between the Kochs and Soros, the Kochs win hands-down. What positive thing has Soros accomplished?

My son works for a Koch company and I see their positive influence on thousands of people.
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Pwnzor
Posted on Sunday, October 16, 2011 - 08:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Unsuccessful people with spiteful feelings toward successful people?

Perish the thought!
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Johnnymceldoo
Posted on Sunday, October 16, 2011 - 09:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The progressive power structure is fearful a descendant of slaves and someone who doesnt fake their dialect depending on the color of the audience is running as a conservative. If you listen to him describe his ideas its almost as if they were his own and not rehearsed with his handlers like some politicians. I think Cain also has a real resume although Im not sure if he's written as many books as totus. Its always refreshing when a candidate can talk unrehearsed about their ideas because of real world experience.
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Reindog
Posted on Sunday, October 16, 2011 - 10:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yikes.
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Whatever
Posted on Sunday, October 16, 2011 - 10:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If you want to talk government over spending (re. contract misconduct)... here is the current list...

http://www.contractormisconduct.org/index.cfm
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Whatever
Posted on Sunday, October 16, 2011 - 11:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I don't think it includes this, since the report came out September 1, 2011:

The report submitted by the congressionally chartered Commission on Wartime Contracting in Iraq and Afghanistan estimates that waste and fraud have amounted to at least 31 billion, and possibly as much as 60 billion, during the operations in Iraq and Afghanistan.
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Chauly
Posted on Sunday, October 16, 2011 - 11:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So the way I'm reading it, the contracts for 2010 totaled $276B, and the total overcharges, etc. since 1995 total to $25B, less than 10% spread out over 16 years. or 0.6% per year. That's not to shabby, if you think about it. Granted, $1.56B per year is still not chump change, but this is not the spending problem the government faces; it's the $276B part that needs to be examined.
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Whatever
Posted on Sunday, October 16, 2011 - 11:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.wartimecontracting.gov/index.php/report s
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Whatever
Posted on Sunday, October 16, 2011 - 11:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

From Chapter 3
AND I remind you this does not include BLACK OPS money...


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