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Blake
Posted on Friday, October 07, 2011 - 06:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The liberal media is slobbering all over these so-called "occupy Wall Street" protests. They should ask them a few questions...

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Court
Posted on Friday, October 07, 2011 - 09:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sex scandal
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Blake
Posted on Friday, October 07, 2011 - 09:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://img.ibtimes.com/www/articles/20111007/22726 5_herman-cain-leads-mitt-romney-zogby-poll-republi can-presidential-race.htm

Wow!
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Friday, October 07, 2011 - 10:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I would LOVE to see Cain get the nod.

Love it!


I actually participated in that poll. Kinda cool to see how my results stacked up against the results.



The weird part is that 50% of that poll was about politics and the elections. The other 50% was about hand washing and hygiene habits.

As always, Zogby asks whether or not you are a NASCAR fan.

Odd.
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Reindog
Posted on Saturday, October 08, 2011 - 02:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I am now in the Cain camp. If you think he can't win, then that is a self fulfilling prophecy. If 0 could win in 2008, why can't a true Conservative like Cain win in 2012?
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Reepicheep
Posted on Saturday, October 08, 2011 - 10:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I watched my first interview with him yesterday. He came off as not super polished, but absolutely, totally, and completely authentic.

Which I think might be just what the country needs. I'm tired of over produced plastic coated presidents.

I wonder what a Cain / Palin presidency would look like? I'd recommend against it, just because I am so tired of the liberal whining and hissyfits (which I don't get, given the current VP of their party).
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Moxnix
Posted on Saturday, October 08, 2011 - 12:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

September 30, Prez Zero probably did more to destroy our constitution that any of his forebearers in the offal office. In '08, many on the left expected President Obama to re-establish the accountability of government to law. Instead, he went further than Bush/Cheney and asserted the unconstitutional power not only to hold American citizens indefinitely in prison without bringing charges, but also to take their lives without convicting them in a court of law. Obama asserts that the US Constitution notwithstanding, he has the authority to assassinate US citizens, who he deems to be a “threat,” without due process of law.

In other words, any American citizen who is moved into the threat category has no rights and can be executed without trial or evidence.

On September 30 Obama used this asserted new power of the president and had two American citizens, Anwar Awlaki and Samir Khan killed in Yemen.

Obama’s assertion that Awlaki was some kind of high-level Al Qaeda operative is merely an assertion. My feeble mind has concluded that the reason Awlaki was murdered rather than brought to trial is that the US government had no real evidence that Awlaki was an Al Qaeda operative.

When the American Civil Liberties Union lefties challenged in federal court Obama’s assertion that he had the power to order assassinations of American citizens, the Obama Justice (sic) Department argued that Obama’s decision to have Americans murdered was an executive power beyond the reach of the judiciary.

Awlaki’s assassination terminated the Constitution’s restraint on the power of government. Now the US government not only can seize a US citizen and confine him in prison for the rest of his life without ever presenting evidence and obtaining a conviction, but also can have him shot down in the street or blown up by a drone.

Before anyone declares that Awlaki’s murder is no big deal because the US government has always had people murdered, keep in mind that CIA assassinations were of foreign opponents and were not publicly proclaimed events, much less a claim by the president to be above the law. Indeed, such assassinations were denied, not claimed as legitimate actions of the President of the United States.

The point isn’t that the government killed people. The point is that never prior to President Obama has a President asserted the power to murder citizens.
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Moxnix
Posted on Saturday, October 08, 2011 - 01:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

NSFW

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mAUQYn6DjM
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Johnnymceldoo
Posted on Saturday, October 08, 2011 - 05:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Very scary stuff moxnix. Iam curious what buellinmke thinks about this as he has been really vocal about the patriot act.
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Moxnix
Posted on Monday, October 10, 2011 - 01:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

On the one hand, I'm okay with Awlaki taking a permanent dirt nap, on the other I'm glad the incident exposed how blatantly anti-Consitution our Barry "Robert Mugabe" Obama shows hisself to be. By the Mugabe reference, I also refer to his asinine destruction of the economy.
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Strokizator
Posted on Monday, October 10, 2011 - 02:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That video is hilarious.

"All the black people was proud. We got a black president. You actin' like one right now, "B". Pay your f**king bills on time!"
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Moxnix
Posted on Monday, October 10, 2011 - 04:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Now Al Queda has released an opinion that the killing of two Americans in Yemen is illegal.

Hmm, no irony there.
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Aesquire
Posted on Monday, October 10, 2011 - 10:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Actually to be expected. If we can kill AQ operatives in the US it puts a crimp in their plans.

Just like the Soviets pushed a Geneva convention for terrorists, since they are using them to gain power and influence.
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Tuesday, October 11, 2011 - 11:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

they are covered under the Geneva convention; you can execute them on the spot.
along with pirates.
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Moxnix
Posted on Tuesday, October 11, 2011 - 12:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

As Stefan Molyneux of Freedomain Radio succinctly puts it, “If the state is the solution, and the state has more power (than) it’s ever had before in its life, then why are things getting worse?”
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Oldog
Posted on Tuesday, October 11, 2011 - 02:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

“If the state is the solution, and the state has more power (than) it’s ever had before in its life, then why are things getting worse?”)

note recent Russian history & the Demise of communism, as the state got larger and larger
central control became more unwieldy, more and more of the populace worked for the government, and produced nothing at some point they reached the "tipping point" and their economy imploded, the current white house occupant has failed to learn that lesson.

hoping for change in '13
raising Cain!


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Aesquire
Posted on Tuesday, October 11, 2011 - 10:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

City, the Soviets wrote a treaty that protects terrorists. ( their proxies ) We didn't sign on. So, yes, under the Geneva accords we signed on to, like a pirate, on the spot.
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Oldog
Posted on Wednesday, October 12, 2011 - 08:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I would like to ask the russians how that geneva thing worked with the terrorists that took over a theater, and were gassed?

glad that we did not sign that treaty
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Cowboy
Posted on Wednesday, October 12, 2011 - 08:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Also Keep your eye on Putin another snake in the grass.
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Aesquire
Posted on Wednesday, October 12, 2011 - 09:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Oldog, since when have authoritarian regimes ever cared what laws of their own they break? The Soviets almost never honored a treaty. A promise or a treaty is considered, in THAT religion, as a tool to fool the enemy, and has nothing to do with morality.

( actually, there is one authoritarian regime in history that was concerned with the legality of their actions. Their leaders made sure that every action they took was legal under their law. Including gas chambers and careful accounting of the gold pulled from the mouths of the slain. )

Now, Obama, while a spiritual brother to the Soviets, and a serious tendency towards the exact kind of fascism practiced in Germany back in the 1930's ( see GM, GE, Solyndra, and the company that owns the park in NYC that lets the "occupiers" live there, and got a billion$+ from this admin for it's wind power division ) Is NOT a Soviet, or Nazi, though we know from his own comments he craves the unfettered power each had. ( or has in the case of Red China, a nation whose lack of restraint of personally held State power he openly admires )

I'm always wary of those who openly admire mass murderers. Many in this admin make me wary.
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Oldog
Posted on Thursday, October 13, 2011 - 01:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

sorry no sarcasm icon..

the Russian Government should not be trusted.

right now neither should ours

holder should step down,

obama has some 'splainin to do

Solyndra, Solarpower = 1.5 BILLION $$ lost

(Message edited by oldog on October 13, 2011)
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Boltrider
Posted on Thursday, October 13, 2011 - 01:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The Sunpower loan smacks of a bailout. They are 830 million in debt, and they get over a billion from the government. How is that not a bailout?
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Boltrider
Posted on Thursday, October 13, 2011 - 01:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"SunPower admits in its SEC filings that it is very dependent on government, without which its revenues would drop."

http://www.newsamericadaily.com/obama-admin-loans- 1-2-billion-to-company-nearly-a-trillion-dollars-i n-debt-and-no-its-not-solyndra

Maybe it's industry practice to treat loans as revenue, but that seems like shady accounting to me.

Original source:
www.foxbusiness.com/markets/2011/10/12/dept-energys-sunpower-loan-guarantee-under-fire

Here’s why people should be upset at yet another Department of Energy guaranteed loan to a solar company:

The company, SunPower, got a conditional guarantee for a $1.2 billion loan from the Energy Dept. back in the spring, according to the DOE's website.But this company was getting financing in the capital markets. Why hit up taxpayers to get backstops on loans?

And soon after the project run by SunPower got this loan guarantee, SunPower sold a big stake in itself, an estimated $1.3 billion, to French energy giant Total, at a 46% premium to its shares at the time

Total also gave it a $1 billion credit line, according to the company's filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. The Total deal, along with the loan guarantee, helped SunPower's stock rise.

A SunPower spokesman confirmed all this, but said the company is in a quiet period in advance of its next quarterly profit report, due out in early November. The Department of Energy did not return calls for comment, but its press statement on this loan guarantee says it conducted "months of rigorous technical, financial and legal due diligence" on this project so it met "the requirements of the program -- helping America win the clean energy race and create new industries for American workers."

However, there is a chance that this project will fail, and guess what? If it fails, you and I and the American taxpayer will be on the hook for a $1.2 billion tab. Even despite the fact that SunPower sold the underlying solar ranch that it got this loan guarantee for to NRG. California Valley Solar Ranch is a limited liability corporation that was established to build this power plant. The ranch must pay the loan back.

SunPower says it is still involved in the ranch's operations, and it is developing this project, meaning it will get money if this project succeeds. A government official says the project has a power purchase agreement in place. But given the track record for solar companies, do you feel comfortable?

SunPower has been burning through cash and lost $150 million in the first half. SunPower admits in its SEC filings that it is very dependent on government, without which its revenues would drop.

It also says in its SEC filings that it doesn’t have long-term contracts with customers and could lose customers without warning, and that a big slug of its revenues depends on a limited number of customers .SunPower and its executives face class action lawsuits over alleged accounting misstatements. A SunPower spokesman declined comment.

Another outrage: This project will only create 15 new, permanent jobs, according to the DOE website. If it fails, that would come at a cost of more than $80 million in taxpayer money for each of those jobs.

There’s also a political element here; SunPower tells FOX Business that Rep. George Miller (D-CA) had toured one of its plants last fall, touting it as a success in California. Miller’s son works at a lobbying firm that represents SunPower, which the lobbying firm confirmed to FOX Business.

Rep. Miller's office did not return a call seeking comment.

Even so, SunPower has enjoyed bipartisan support. Republican governor Arnold Schwarzenegger toured the company in 2008 and the head of the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission under President George W. Bush is on SunPower's board. In 2008, President Bush's energy secretary reportedly installed 819 SunPower solar panels on the roof of the Energy Dept.'s headquarters in Washington, D.C.

Read more: http://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/2011/10/12/dept-energys-sunpower-loan-guarantee-under-fire/#ixzz1ageARen1


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Chauly
Posted on Thursday, October 13, 2011 - 02:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Jeesh, at least get the headline of the story right... Shouldn't it be "$1.2 Billion to a company nearly a billion in debt", not "a trillion"
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Boltrider
Posted on Thursday, October 13, 2011 - 02:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Not clear to me how much of the $1.2B Sunpower will get since they sold the solar ranch that got them the loan. Or maybe they got the loan FOR the solar ranch, but the article states the ranch must pay the loan back. So does that mean Sunpower doesn't have to repay any of it? Very weird.

There's so much change of ownership, it's hard to follow who gets what and how much each has to pay back.

(Message edited by boltrider on October 13, 2011)
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Court
Posted on Friday, October 14, 2011 - 01:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Interesting to see the names in the company and the fact that they took our $1,200,000,000 and outsourced the jobs to Mexico . . Go Big O Go . .
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Moxnix
Posted on Friday, October 14, 2011 - 03:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hey, Obee, let's get involved in a regional war in Africa! How about one between Christians and Muslims? Okay? Okay!

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/10/obama -sends-100-us-troops-to-uganda-to-combat-lords-res istance-army/

And make sure you have us siding with the muslims!
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Friday, October 14, 2011 - 04:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The Russians have no love of terrorists - go back and look at what they did when the seperatist radicals took the Bolshoi Ballet hostage.

They gassed the place, civilians included, went in, and put a bullet in the head of every terrorist F*ck there. They identified them, and eliminated their families, levelled businesses, and embargoed an entire region; cut them off, no heat, no oil, no food,

It is a will, we will never approach.
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Moxnix
Posted on Friday, October 14, 2011 - 06:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Meanwhile, over on the financial front, the problem gets bigger. The solution — real, private sector prosperity -- gets smaller.
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Saturday, October 15, 2011 - 10:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It is because Washington wants to control everything, tax everything and enslave anything they cant tax by putting it on the dole and stuck to the teet.
It fails, it didn't work in the Soviet Union- it wont work here, there is no better 'lab' for how hard it fails than the USSR. These guys don't read history.
much less understand the theory that they want to pander to.
He is not a Mzrxist - he can't even get the f'n dialectic correct.

The STATUS Quo is the entry point into the equation NOT the antithesis of 'change or hope or what ever the f they think it should be branded this week'

In a pure totalitarian negotiation tactics, with little consideration for the cost or life consequenses - the Dialectic works - and effectively. But it is ruthless. If this guy wants to be a Socialist - people are going to have to start disappearing, dying, and being rounded up into education camps.
........ how long do you think before he figures out that is the only way socialism works, and pushes that button ?
This is what happens when you have academic sociologists and neighborhood organizers in power - thug rule, and management by crisis.

It gets ugly - it happens sooner than I expected - they are escalating their time table.
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