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Rick_a
Posted on Sunday, September 25, 2011 - 12:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I believe it has been said that studies of some sub-atomic particles defy physics as we know it.

The more we know the more questions arise...

...or somebody just messed up.
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Gregtonn
Posted on Sunday, September 25, 2011 - 02:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"The more we know the more questions arise..."

or

"The more you know the more you know there is more you don't know."

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Blake
Posted on Sunday, September 25, 2011 - 02:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Too true. Ever more of those pesky unknown unknowns.




"Steel doesn't melt!"

Rosie O'Donnell on why the WTC collapse was obviously staged.
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Cataract2
Posted on Sunday, September 25, 2011 - 03:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Worst part, there were people who believed that.
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Aesquire
Posted on Sunday, September 25, 2011 - 09:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I always loved how GWB's admin couldn't keep secret the actual top secret plans to invade Iran or Syria, but could manage a conspiracy of thousands that planted and detonated charges at the WTC while everyone was working there. Perfectly. ( perhaps the rouge elements in the CIA that opposed Bush's Iraq war, leaked the secret invasion plans, and leaked lies about Iran's nuclear program were all good with the mass slaughter of civilians that would give GWB the power to impose a theocratic dictatorship? Really? Want to buy some swampland? )

On the subject, though.... weird results in science often lead to breakthroughs. The phrase "Hmmm, that's odd" has led to more scientific discoveries than the more lofty pronouncements of "this massively expensive project will open the gateways to great advances". Although sometimes ( as this case at CERN ) the massively expensive project accidentally reveals some thing that was completely unplanned for and not even close to the original plans. ( like this case at CERN )
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Just_ziptab
Posted on Sunday, September 25, 2011 - 10:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"Steel doesn't melt!"

I saw a clip on that....and the whole damned audience went nuts with cheers.

And they walk among us:-(
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Gregtonn
Posted on Sunday, September 25, 2011 - 12:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Oops! It looks as if I’ve triggered a reaction that may cause this thread to be lost in the æther.

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Aesquire
Posted on Sunday, September 25, 2011 - 09:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Perhaps it's that a big blast of neutrinos messes up the clocks?

I'm curious about their neutrino detector. Lead bricks and bricks of photo emulsion? Cool.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OPERA_Experiment

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laboratori_Nazionali_ del_Gran_Sasso

An effort to determine the mass of the neutrino, called CUORE (Cryogenic Underground Observatory for Rare Events), is schedule to begin in 2011. The detector will be shielded with lead recovered from an ancient Roman shipwreck, due to the ancient lead's lower radioactivity than recently minted lead. The artifacts are being given to CUORE from the National Archaeological Museum[disambiguation needed] in Cagliari.[2]

That's also cool. I've made radiation detector housings from old WW2 5" gun barrels. The steel was poured before the aboveground nuclear tests raised the background level.
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Aesquire
Posted on Friday, September 30, 2011 - 09:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://jerrypournelle.com/chaosmanor/?p=2254
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Slaughter
Posted on Friday, September 30, 2011 - 09:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The totally cool thing about knowledge is the more you know, the more you realize how much more there IS to know.

It is a sign of ignorance to think that anybody can "know too much."
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Buellitup
Posted on Saturday, October 01, 2011 - 12:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I believe it has been said that studies of some sub-atomic particles defy physics as we know it.

Bingo. It's the reason why quantum physicists and real-world physicists don't like each other. Not even gravity works when things get tiny.

Einstein was trying to find a formula that works for everything, but all he could come up with was e=mc^2. It's a wrong formula in that it doesn't work everywhere. That's why they're accelerating itsy bitsy things, and hopefully, they'll find that formula.
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Sifo
Posted on Saturday, October 01, 2011 - 01:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Interesting article about Fermilab out near me. http://beaconnews.suntimes.com/news/7807816-418/ph ysics-turned-on-its-ear-catches-attention-at-fermi lab.html Looks like it might be heading toward being shut down. Fermi has always been a neat place to visit for me just to look around. The accelerator loop is easy to spot as a huge earthen berm. They have a buffalo farm onsite. I've seen all sorts of wildlife running around in there too. Great place to pedal through by bicycle. I've been through their roads many times by motorcycle too. I've never figured out their security though. Sometimes the guard shack is empty. Other times I've gotten the third degree about why I'm going in an they check my ID carefully. Usually it's something in between. I'm not sure it will be the same going through there without wondering about little particles whizzing by at near light speed just a little ways away under that earthen berm though. At least they will still have the buffalo!
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Aesquire
Posted on Monday, October 10, 2011 - 11:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://xkcd.com/962/

A new solution to the Fermi Paradox.
( to see Corliss... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWfph3iNC-k )
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Pwnzor
Posted on Monday, October 10, 2011 - 04:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'll let you know what I find when I get there.... or is it where I get then?

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Aesquire
Posted on Monday, October 10, 2011 - 10:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.npl.washington.edu/AV/av_index.html

A few good articles. Here's one on the diagram above.
http://www.npl.washington.edu/AV/altvw81.html
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Sarodude
Posted on Tuesday, October 11, 2011 - 11:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Waiting for someone (else) to tie this in to the Stupid Atheists discussion....
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Reepicheep
Posted on Tuesday, October 11, 2011 - 12:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

They didn't shut it down, they just moved it to Black Mesa. ; )
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Aesquire
Posted on Wednesday, October 12, 2011 - 11:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Speaking of Black Mesa.
http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/10/10/secretiv e-us-x-37b-space-plane-could-evolve-to-carry-astro nauts/
The X-37b is an Airforce craft used for classified missions. Cool toy. Reminds me of the old DynaSoar. http://www.astronautix.com/craft/dynasoar.htm Aerospace fighter, anyone? Love that late 50's tech.

Better yet a tool to get interesting stuff done. Can we make a neutrino detector small enough to orbit in this thing? I want to see if we can do ftl communications. ( flash a light from Cern as you pulse the beam )
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Sifo
Posted on Monday, October 17, 2011 - 06:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

E may equal MC2 after all.

http://www.technologyreview.com/blog/arxiv/27260/
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Pwnzor
Posted on Monday, October 17, 2011 - 06:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Good find, Sifo.

I think I need to set my watch, it's 0.0000000000000064 seconds off.
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