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Ferris_von_bueller
Posted on Thursday, September 08, 2011 - 08:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sifo, the first article is in regards to the Tundra not the Tacoma. However, considering the other article pointed out the high degree of flux the auto manufacturing industry is currently experiencing it wouldnt surprise me to learn that Tacoma production has been moved.
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Cowboy
Posted on Thursday, September 08, 2011 - 08:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Blake it is still Chicago politics he is punishing Texas for being conservative.
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Aesquire
Posted on Thursday, September 08, 2011 - 08:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.atr.org/comprehensive-list-obama-tax-hi kes-a6433

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/sep/8/fbi -raids-solar-panel-company-hailed-by-obama/

http://dailycaller.com/2011/09/08/solyndra-officia ls-made-numerous-trips-to-the-white-house-logs-sho w/


The visitor logs also show that a number of members of the administration though a loan guarantee for Solyndra was pressing enough to take meetings. Former Chief of Staff Rahm Emmanuel and Adviser Valerie Jarrett even took meetings with Kaiser.

As TheDC previously reported, Solyndra officials, including Kaiser himself, donated hundreds of thousands of dollars to Barack Obama.

Kaiser personally donated $53,500 to Obama’s presidential campaign in 2008. Ben Bierman, executive vice president of operations donated $5,500 to Obama, and Karen Alter, senior vice president of marketing gave $23,000, just to name a few.

The best Government money can buy.

And our future.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2034914/ GPs-told-ration-cancer-scans-bureaucratic-directiv e.html
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Buellriderx
Posted on Thursday, September 08, 2011 - 09:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Brumbear, when you lay it out like that

The place I work at .. there are a couple guys getting paid cash. They're legal. But they also collect unemployment. Then they claim to be good christians which just pisses me off... While I pay taxes out the ass, they get to enjoy more 'toys', like dirt bikes and whatnot, while still having families. I'm single and can't afford that much. Cuz' like Brumbear said, they get free food, health care, help with rent......

Rant over
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Sifo
Posted on Thursday, September 08, 2011 - 10:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sifo, the first article is in regards to the Tundra not the Tacoma.

Sorry, I left out the link that points out they will both be coming out of the same plant.
http://news.pickuptrucks.com/2009/08/toyota-to-shu tter-us-plant-where-tacoma-is-built.html

All dots connected now!
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Swampy
Posted on Thursday, September 08, 2011 - 10:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"But wait. They’re much worse off. They have much more debt. Here are some numbers that aren’t zero. In round numbers, total debt to GDP increased from around 200% to over 350%. Federal debt alone went from 57% of GDP to nearly 100% today. "

Not my debt, I didn't put it there, I didn't get anything for it, blame the bastards that signed the note!


But wait! There is a plan!

Sign up for all of the credit cards that are sent in the mail weekly, go to fine stores everywhere and buy as much "hardware" as your credit limit will allow, then go off grid!

If they only knew~
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Moxnix
Posted on Thursday, September 08, 2011 - 11:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Watched the president's speech on PBS with our African American employee. She said he sounded like a Republican.
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Rocketsprink
Posted on Friday, September 09, 2011 - 06:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Why do you have to point out she's "African American"? Does that make her opinion less or more important or valid?
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Sifo
Posted on Friday, September 09, 2011 - 06:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It does offer some demographic information that adds insight. If you can't see that at this point no amount of explaining that will ever help you though.

EDIT: Welcome back Rocco!

(Message edited by SIFO on September 09, 2011)
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Cowboy
Posted on Friday, September 09, 2011 - 06:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Now I am confused Africa is a large continate is she north Africa is most Arab--south Africa is Dutch (white) the rest of Africa is Negro. What are you trying to say?
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Aesquire
Posted on Friday, September 09, 2011 - 07:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Gee, Cowboy, most people don't know that, and "African American" usually refers to descendants of slaves sold to European traders by Arabs. Usually sold to the Arabs by rival tribes.

So don't be confused, just accept that schools don't teach that heresy you just spouted. African are always shown as dark skinned folk. ( you also forgot Egypt and the Roman settled N Africa. )

After all, Obama doesn't actually fit in the Afro-american category, but sorta looks like them, so they think he's one of them. At least that's the plan, and it works.

I didn't like a lot of his campaign speech.
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Cowboy
Posted on Friday, September 09, 2011 - 08:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think every one knows he (obama) is a mulatto
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Moxnix
Posted on Friday, September 09, 2011 - 10:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Of course I should have described "her" (the African American) in relation to our two other employees who weren't present, a Ph.D. candidate daughter of a wealthy white family in Chicago and a white masters candidate who grew up in middle class Chicago. Neither was present, so they could not be quoted.

It is my observation, based on my experience, (that) African Americans often have opinions and insight regarding issues and activities that may not match my own. My statement was a vignette of cross cultural communication.

Next time I shall do my best and remember to describe the lady as something like, "the descendant of slaves from Africa, you guess her anthropologica category . . . ."
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Xdigitalx
Posted on Friday, September 09, 2011 - 10:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

How come all the applications I fill out do not say Caucasian any more?

1 Black/African American
2 Asian or Pacific Islander
3 Hispanic/Latino
4 American Indian or Alaskan Native
5 White

Why isnt it: white/European or European/Caucasian or something cool like that... why just white??

These things never occurred to me before. But since the term African American was added to Black and Caucasion was removed it makes me wonder why everytime I fill out an application.
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Cowboy
Posted on Friday, September 09, 2011 - 12:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I want to make a apoligy to all I have offended and insulted this is not my normal persionatly. It is just that this prisident who is suposed to be a uniter is the worst devider I have ever seen.He realy gets under my skin. I guess he is folowing the old saying devide and concur. so in short lets get this scaliwag out of the white house.
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Swordsman
Posted on Friday, September 09, 2011 - 02:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Herman Cain is of Interest
as are Romney, Perry & Bachmann


Are you serious? Romney has a well-earned rep for saying whatever the crowd at hand wants to hear, and Perry is a Democrat trying to woo the conservatives by sticking an R behind his name. He supported Al Gore for cryin' out loud! Bachmann sounds promising, but she popped up out of nowhere to (very narrowly) snatch the Straw Poll from Ron Paul, which makes me wonder. I can't help but think she's a Republican version of Obama, a too-good-to-be-true puppet.

~SM
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Moxnix
Posted on Friday, September 09, 2011 - 02:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'd like to apologize to myself for starting this thread.
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Hybridmomentspass
Posted on Friday, September 09, 2011 - 02:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

digital, understood.
it is pretty odd that everyone has a history/past execpt for white folk, they are just that....white.

But that opens another can of worms with race issues. (quickly I'll say this - last night I was at B&N and noticed there was a section of 'urban fiction' Not city stories, but african american stories. what? Equally amusing is a whole genre, and a rather large one at the book store, for 'teen paranormal romance')
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Fast1075
Posted on Friday, September 09, 2011 - 04:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I am a pygmy albino Klingon...and proud of it.
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Xdigitalx
Posted on Friday, September 09, 2011 - 08:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I also wonder why there are no darker colored bandaids made by any major company. 100% I am not trying to be funny, it actually occurred to me a few years ago and... I told my gf, she then accused me a being racist. It is something that hit me all of a sudden and ...I was also dumbfounded as to why it took so long to even notice. I guess it really isnt a big deal.


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Xdigitalx
Posted on Friday, September 09, 2011 - 09:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Fast u my be one ugly mug... lol.
Kinda Kaoto in Total Recal:


kaoto1



kaoto1


Don't mind me guys...I am on hold with HP tech support.
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Aesquire
Posted on Friday, September 09, 2011 - 09:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The bandaid bit is a marketing decision. The range of color in humans makes keeping stock in all the potential colors too costly. I have seen darker bandages, but not often. Easier to get Kermit the Frog green.

I Have to know... do pygmy albino Klingons read 'teen paranormal romance'? ( and, yes, I have seen the genre. It's a subset of a group that includes angsty vampire teens and paranormal teen detectives. )

But back to dissing the President, and his campaign speech last night.

I really have to hand it to him. The tactic of demanding an immediate vote on a non existent Bill, Then later, promising to submit the bill even later, but insisting that it MUST be voted on instantly... Genius. ( ok, not original, but bold, man, bold. )

It makes no difference how bad the Bill is. Just like the Pelosicare Bill, he can make all sorts of sweeping generalizations, and promise, anything, and there is no way to call him on it. He'll blame someone else if it passes and sucks, and meantime can blame the Rep's for all the "jobs lost" because they didn't sign the bill that doesn't exist.

Romney does zip for me. I suspect he's this elections McCain, chosen by the media to be the loser. Cain I like, and he has at least as much foreign diplo experience as Obama, and I doubt he'd Bow to kings.

Not a single person running for the job makes me happy in all particulars. I don't expect anyone ever will. So I just ask, For or against the Constitution and limited power for the people we hire to do our administrative work? How do they feel about leaving me the heck alone to go to heck in my own way? First Amendment? Second? Limits on socialization?

What are your buttons? ( besides bogus race issues. )
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Friday, September 09, 2011 - 11:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Perry Cain 2012


Heard it here first.
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Sifo
Posted on Saturday, September 10, 2011 - 08:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

and Perry is a Democrat trying to woo the conservatives by sticking an R behind his name. He supported Al Gore for cryin' out loud!

No doubt that's an easy negative against Perry. He has had that R behind his name for over 20 years now though. Many folks wake up to the fact that Democratic idealism is a prescription to disaster and turn Republican. It's called maturing. Also at Perry's age he has seen the Democrat party take a hard left turn. It seems he bailed on them at about the right time. It may actually demonstrate some pretty good forward vision. I still want to know more about Perry.


or, better yet...
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Rocketsprink
Posted on Saturday, September 10, 2011 - 09:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

sifo, do you drive the retard bus or are you a passenger? Your opinion is worthless, like you, to me. Some one that bragged about driving a bus and then collecting unemployment during the summer is a leech on the system they claim to despise.
The racist,bigoted attitude of people here turns my stomach.
Try your best to spin it anyway you like, but it's more than obvious. I believe every post on the badweb should require people to write the ethnic, religious and any other feature to make sure everyone know exactly what kind of person their posting about.
I'll start...this thread= White,evangelical bigots.
Back to work yet sifo? Back among your intellectual peers then, huh?
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Ducxl
Posted on Saturday, September 10, 2011 - 10:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


quote:

sifo, do you drive the retard bus or are you a passenger?




Say...My brother-in-law(so what)is retarded and we love him very much you bigoted sicko.

We're offended now
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Court
Posted on Saturday, September 10, 2011 - 10:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>>>>I really have to hand it to him. The tactic of demanding an immediate vote on a non existent Bill, Then later, promising to submit the bill even later, but insisting that it MUST be voted on instantly... Genius.

We've strayed off topic a bit as a couple folks trade barbs . . . but one thing is for certain.

The President firmly proved to the nation, as he abused the majesty of the joint session to campaign, that he is a complete and total idiot with not the slightest hint of comprehension as to what the problem is or what the solution is.

It frankly sounded like a speech for class president in high school.

I kinda giggled as the same idiot who appointed a "super committee" charged with finding ways to save just added to their tasks the duty of finding another half trillion $$ to spend.

No kidding . . if you tried to write a novel about an idiot suddenly cast into a role far removed from his intellectual capacity to operate . . .you could not make up anything as bizarre as we are currently witnessing.

For the time being . . stay in GLD and SLV and just enjoy the entertainment.

By the way . . . the best part and I was in tears laughing . . was when he talked about protecting American jobs and "Made in America" as the camera panned to Jeffrey Immelt sitting next to the woman who continues to struggle to find a reason to be proud of America.

Great appointment to head the "Jobs Commission" . . can you name ONE CEO who has sent more jobs overseas?

Answer quick before Boeing and Gibson Guitar become candidates . . .
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Slaughter
Posted on Saturday, September 10, 2011 - 11:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hey WAIT JUST ONE FREAKING MINUTE!!!

I have ADHD and cannot ever stay on topic or on task.

Thread drift offends me PERSONALLY!

You are all pissing me off.

Wow! I've got a few dollars in change in this pair of jeans... maybe I should hit the ATM and take Sunny out for breakfast instead of cold cereal here... but we were going to be re-attaching some baseboards before the painter gets here next week. Speaking of painters, what do you think about just doing all the walls in a base white so any repairs will be easier and I won't have to keep color-matching codes here at the house? Besides that, the lawn mower is taking a dump but I'm planning on picking up a Snapper this week and did you know they are ENTIRELY made in the USA with as many USA produced parts and subassemblies as possible? My Chippewa boots are made in USA as well all the way from their Vibram soles to the laces.

Oh yeah... almost forgot, you're all pissing me off - I know you all HATE people with ADHD.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Saturday, September 10, 2011 - 11:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

ADHD people are the scourge of....

Hey! What's that shiny thing?
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Moxnix
Posted on Saturday, September 10, 2011 - 12:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

This popped over the transom this week, read it while consuming my granola. Off topic, sure:

We are now getting close to the 10th anniversary of the al-Qaida attacks of 9/11. Although a decade is an insufficient period for most historians to comfortably draw firm conclusions about anything, it is possible to look at our world today and see how it appears to have been affected by that disastrous event and the ensuing decade.

It is critical to remember that terrorism is not designed to overwhelm. It is designed to undermine. In that context, whatever it does to cause or initiate anxiety in targeted populations and governments, it relies on the reaction of those populations and governments equally as much to achieve its final goals. And America has reacted in ways that have haunted us and will continue to haunt us for decades. Al-Qaida could not have wished for more.

Domestically, we have seen major changes in our lives. Think of our color-coded terrorist warning system, our current airport controls, our paranoia over anyone who “looks like a Muslim” (whatever that is), or “acts differently.” What is that paper bag doing in the subway? Airport? Train station? Movie?

In the aftermath of 9/11, Americans were clearly prepared to and ultimately did surrender their civil liberties and individual rights in the hope that doing so would add to their own physical security. We forgot Benjamin Franklin’s injunction that “they who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.”

The Patriot Act, where it was designed ostensibly to increase our security here at home, did many other things that have negatively affected the way we lead our lives. It increased the government’s ability to spy on us, to monitor our activities in a very broad and general way. It introduced warrantless wiretapping and the monitoring of fund transfers and Internet communications. It also initiated the national security letter process that required any person or organization to turn over records and data pertaining to individuals without warrant, and all this without probable cause or judicial oversight.

The other major domestic impact of the decade has been financial. During that period, we have gone from what was verging on a national surplus to a deficit that is now approaching $15 trillion and increasing at the rate of $3.95 billion every day. We got there through a combination of factors, including tax cuts, the “War on Terror,” and unfunded military operations in Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan and now Libya. Brown University’s comprehensive June 2011 “Costs of War” project, factoring in all the costs associated with the decade, arrives at close to $4 trillion. Tax cuts add $2.8 trillion. There seems virtually no doubt that in the absence of our reaction to 9/11, we would be fiscally relatively healthy.

In addition to the foregoing difficult domestic situation, which we largely created for ourselves in the aftermath of 9/11, the changes we have seen in our foreign policy will haunt us for years to come. In that arena, our move to military-based, unilateral policy was a radical change. Yet our invasion and defeat of Iraq and the ascendance to power of the Iranian-allied Iraqi Shiites will likely prove to be our most egregious blunder.

It’s not that Saddam Hussein’s Iraq was in any sense enlightened; it is very simply that Saddam’s Iraq was the only effective impediment to Iranian control over the Persian Gulf. From 1980-88, Iran and Iraq fought a war for supremacy in the gulf. In the absence of a clear resolution of that conflict, the fact that Iraq survived served as a critical deterrent to Iranian dreams for hegemony there.

Our invasion and defeat of Saddam’s Iraq was something the Iranians could never have accomplished on their own. With Shiites now assuming power under our new order in Iraq and Iran threatening the old Sunni positions in the Gulf States, Iran has come even closer. We have destroyed the last real impediment to Iranian dreams for the gulf.

We have had our chances to deal with 9/11 in ways that would have better favored our own national interests. Instead, we panicked, invoked questionable practices at home and became involved in military adventures abroad that will almost certainly ultimately be viewed as disasters.

Without the active, witless involvement and acquiescence of our government and Congress over the past decade, al-Qaida terrorism would have caused us far less pain than it ultimately has and we would be a great deal safer, richer, wiser and internationally more powerful and respected than is now the case.

Regards,

Haviland Smith,

Note: Haviland Smith is a retired CIA station chief who served in Eastern and Western Europe and the Middle East and as chief of the counterterrorism staff.
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