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Ratbuell
Posted on Sunday, August 28, 2011 - 01:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

well, i just ripped up about 30sf of my kitchen hardwood flooring because the subfloor got wet and swelled when a window a/c unit condensate tube backed up and it leaked inside.

construction is floor joists, with on top, had particle board on top of that (which is what swelled), capped with the hardwood.

ruined particle board is up. is airing out with the assistance of a dehumidifier. going to get another sheet of (no more particle "sponge" for me, thanks!) and lay it in once everything dries for a day or so. I can reuse some of the hardwood I pulled up, and I still have 2 boxes from when it was initially installed (it's the Bruce prefinished stuff, nice and easy to work with!).

Anybody in or near the Maryland area have one of those ridiculously expensive hardwood floor nail guns they'd be willing to loan out for a day? I hate to buy a $500 tool for 30sf...but if I have to in order to do it right...
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Cyclonedon
Posted on Sunday, August 28, 2011 - 01:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

don't buy a floor nailer, just rent one for four hours. That's what everybody I know does,that floor nailer are too damn expensive for the little use you need them.
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Jimduncan69
Posted on Sunday, August 28, 2011 - 02:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You can use a 16penny finnish nailer on a 45degree angle to nail them back down. it will be a bit of a PITA but it will work.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Sunday, August 28, 2011 - 04:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

well...*some*body ended up with my compressor so i need to replace that anyway. there was a bostitch 2-tool compressor combo for $289 at lowes. one tool was a 15ga finish brad nailer, 45 degree capable. the other was a smaller (18ga?) nailer. figure those two plus the pancake compressor...that's a good deal and i can always find trim work to do. i need to do a bunch of toe molding and some window trim...and who knows what the future holds right now anyway. may just go ahead and spring for the kit, once the subfloor is dry and i can start the install...
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Etennuly
Posted on Sunday, August 28, 2011 - 04:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Don't work too hard. You are still in recovery. Would not want to see you hurt yourself doing this stuff!
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Brinnutz
Posted on Sunday, August 28, 2011 - 09:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Craigslist...

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I know you could fix that one..

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(Message edited by brinnutz on August 28, 2011)
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Fahren
Posted on Monday, August 29, 2011 - 08:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Rental.
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Jimduncan69
Posted on Monday, August 29, 2011 - 08:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What thickness is the hardwood? If it is 3/4 the brad nailer will not work. They will hold for a short time. But after a couple of seasons they will work loose.
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Guell
Posted on Monday, August 29, 2011 - 09:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I dont even like to use a normal 16 gauge finish nailer to put down flooring except for the very edge where you cant get a flooring gun in.

Just rent one and do it right.

Also Joe, they do make nailers that dont require the compressor, more work, but if your compressor is broken that is a possibility.

(Message edited by guell on August 29, 2011)
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Blake
Posted on Monday, August 29, 2011 - 12:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yeah, the gas cartridge nailers are excellent! I won't use anything else.
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Guell
Posted on Monday, August 29, 2011 - 01:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I meant a mechanical floor nailer, as much as I use nail guns I don't like the gas cartridge nailers.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Monday, August 29, 2011 - 09:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

compressor not broken...compressor gone. like generator. and diesel truck. and wife.

sensing a theme?

I'll figure it out. got time. subfloor is still freakin' wet...more dry-time on order.
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Chief_sitting_buell
Posted on Tuesday, August 30, 2011 - 08:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Joe I checked with a friend in Burtonsville who's got 5 gallon air compressor you can borrow. He also has the hoses and a craftsman nailer. He doesn't know if the nailer will take hardwood flooring nails but he's looking for the book. Just pm me.
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Fahren
Posted on Tuesday, August 30, 2011 - 08:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Just gotta be sure the gun is the right type for flooring nails, and can get into the tongue of the boards at a good angle. Most pro's have dedicated nailing setups, either air, or whackitwithahammer pneumatic assisted (one light tap sets it just right, next hit drives it home). I like the simplicity of the non-air units, for a small area.

oops - Guell said that already.

(Message edited by fahren on August 30, 2011)
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Ratbuell
Posted on Tuesday, August 30, 2011 - 10:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

wow, thanks everyone. gonna let the subfloor keep drying this week...working late till friday when i saddle up the Uly and ride from work to NJMP for the races. I figure loading the bike and making sure it's ready for the trek, takes precedence over fixing the floor.

for now : )
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Cyclonedon
Posted on Tuesday, August 30, 2011 - 11:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I figure loading the bike and making sure it's ready for the trek, takes precedence over fixing the floor.

I agree! Plenty of time to fix the floor once the snow starts flying!
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Guell
Posted on Wednesday, August 31, 2011 - 07:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

yea, and you want to make sure that its dry completely. What was under the floor? I know some use rosin paper, i prefer a 30lb felt, it helps lessen and squeeks and is a better vapor barrier than the paper. Plus it kind of seals the flooring down to the floor.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Wednesday, August 31, 2011 - 08:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

base construction was joists, covered with , covered with paper (looks like a lightweight roofing felt), covered with the particle-sponge-board, covered initially with linoleum but I had the hardwood put in about 5 years ago.

I got a sheet of to replace the trashed particle board with. that way if it gets wet again...won't have this issue.

squeaking has never been an issue, the span is short enough that nothing really sags or shifts. house was built in 83, so not "old" by any stretch...and the bones are nice and solid. I just wanna tack the stuff down and be done with it! but since I'm still dumping the dehumidifier 2x a day...I will continue to wait, and dry : )
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Ratbuell
Posted on Wednesday, August 31, 2011 - 08:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

wow. it thinks the wood type is the old sweaty balls program...LOL.

The in the posts above is oh-ess-bee : )
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B00stzx3
Posted on Wednesday, August 31, 2011 - 04:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Whatcha need? Me and my old man got some stuff in the garage. I'm in Poolesville.
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Ferris_von_bueller
Posted on Wednesday, August 31, 2011 - 04:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That's weird...why is banned??
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Ratbuell
Posted on Wednesday, August 31, 2011 - 10:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

is another moniker for a non-sponsor tuner program for DDFI.

The "non-sponsor" part got it banned.
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Crackhead
Posted on Thursday, September 01, 2011 - 09:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have a 5 gal compressor & hose that you can borrow that will work for the floor nailer. (I need to finish the edges of my floors and put up molding this weekend.)

If you are wicked fast with a 3 -4 man team, it will not keep up, but for the normal DIY passe it will do fine.
I might even have a box of nails for a "PowerNailer"/ Stanley rental.
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