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Hybridmomentspass
Posted on Sunday, July 31, 2011 - 11:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Last year at Homecoming on the way to Ukes I had an incident when I couldnt get my key to turn to unlock the gascap. At Ukes they were able to help and I wasnt stuck on the side of the road out of gas.

Now its starting to get more difficult to turn the key to unlock my gas cap on my 1125.
What can I do to lubricate the mechanism and make it smooth again.
I didnt want to start spraying stuff in there til I asked more people more experienced in this arena.

Thanks
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Two_seasons
Posted on Sunday, July 31, 2011 - 12:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Spray your key with silicone spray.

Dunk key in gas cap lock several times.

Problem solved.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Sunday, July 31, 2011 - 12:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've also found that Dri-Slide cable lube works well. Stick the needle applicator into the lock and give a squeeze.
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Xdigitalx
Posted on Sunday, July 31, 2011 - 12:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I used a graphite powder thats made for keyholes.
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Sifo
Posted on Sunday, July 31, 2011 - 04:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Just about any light lube will work better than nothing. Anything that dries will be better (silicone, dri-slide, graphite, WD-40). Even 3 in 1 oil would be fine, unless you really get it dusty in a bad way.
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Fltwistygirl
Posted on Sunday, July 31, 2011 - 07:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

+1 on graphite. $2 for a tube at wally world. I find I need to reapply more frequently when I'm riding more in the rain.
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Court
Posted on Sunday, July 31, 2011 - 08:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I used 1 drop of 3-in-1 yesterday . . . seemed to work.
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Boogiman1981
Posted on Sunday, July 31, 2011 - 09:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

needs to be oil. the problem is the o-ring that seals the bottom of the lock shaft to keep the cap vapor tight.
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Blake
Posted on Sunday, July 31, 2011 - 11:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Powered graphite in fuel might be trouble. Use a light oil.
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Cyclonedon
Posted on Monday, August 01, 2011 - 12:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I would go with the 3 in one oil because it won't hurt anything if it gets in the gas tank
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Fltwistygirl
Posted on Monday, August 01, 2011 - 06:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Wow, had not given the graphite in the fuel tank thought a consideration. Have the three in one oil on hand, will start using that instead of graphite.

Thanks.
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Trojan
Posted on Monday, August 01, 2011 - 07:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Powdered graphite is specifically recommended for lubricating locks because it does not attract and retain dirt like oil/grease does.

It is this dirt that wears locks and makes them 'sticky'. If you do it properly when the cap is removed from the bike you should not have any problems with graphite getting into the fuel as you only need a very small amount.

If you are hamfisted enough to get a major graphite leak into your fuel tank you probably shouldn't be working in an enclosed garage with sharp objects close to hand ; )
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Reepicheep
Posted on Monday, August 01, 2011 - 09:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So I should soak my lid in two stroke oil overnight? : )

The Uly smells faster already!
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Trojan
Posted on Monday, August 01, 2011 - 09:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So I should soak my lid in two stroke oil overnight?


No, because when you put your lid on the oil will run down your neck : )
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Court
Posted on Monday, August 01, 2011 - 10:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Note . . I said "one drop".

Temptation is to fill the lock . . not necessary.

I am not a fan of locking gas caps. They introduce one more "trip disruption" variable.

I try to check, as part of a pre-ride inspection, that the lock operates easily. I used the oil last week for the first time.

I need to get one of those caps that lacks the locking feature.
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Wolfridgerider
Posted on Monday, August 01, 2011 - 10:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I need to get one of those caps that lacks the locking feature.

Just in case you didn't know... Erik Buell Racing sells them
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Prior
Posted on Monday, August 01, 2011 - 12:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've been bitten by the locking gas cap... Was up to visit Matt in MI before he passed and was heading to IN to visit JB2 with Ferris and Gentleman Jim in tow. Next thing I know, gage lights are flickering, lights are dim, stator on my Firebolt is dying... Bump starting it after the first gas stop was not a big deal. Only having one key with me and needing to bump start that bike after every single gas stop for 500 miles(since I had to pull the key to get the frikin gas cap off) sucked, especially when trying to do it in nice greasy parking lots in the rain.

I'm thinking an Erik Buell Racing gas cap is in my Uly's future...
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Court
Posted on Monday, August 01, 2011 - 01:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Group buy!

. . .

: )

Hey . . it's the internet . . I had to say that.
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Prior
Posted on Monday, August 01, 2011 - 01:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Group buy!


Court,
We can get 10 orders together and strong arm that supplier into a 29% discount!

(the above IS a joke, for those that may be enticed...)

(Message edited by awprior on August 01, 2011)
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Wolfridgerider
Posted on Monday, August 01, 2011 - 01:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I do need to speak Mr. Canfield about some group stuff... stand by for a jingle
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Etennuly
Posted on Monday, August 01, 2011 - 02:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Being of the disruptive element, I am probably about to start another oil thread war. 'This' is where I use Mobil 1. It gets in and not only lubes the mechanism, but stays in there a long time doing it's job.

Ahhhh thank you!
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Keef
Posted on Monday, August 01, 2011 - 03:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

i find that General Motors- heat valve lubricant, works very well in locks, i use it in my car locks, padlocks, etc. great penetrating properties.
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Teeps
Posted on Monday, August 01, 2011 - 04:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Court Posted on Monday, August 01, 2011

I need to get one of those caps that lacks the locking feature.

My luck some buttocks would steal the non-locking cap, just to be a dick...
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Thumper74
Posted on Monday, August 01, 2011 - 05:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I prefer 80W-90 in my cas cap...

I thought this was going to be a thread about the new B&S motors with the fuel preservative in the gas cap...
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Just_ziptab
Posted on Monday, August 01, 2011 - 11:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Gads,nobody uses WD-40?
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86129squids
Posted on Tuesday, August 02, 2011 - 01:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Heck, aint WD-40 good for arthritis too?
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Crusty
Posted on Tuesday, August 02, 2011 - 07:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sure! Just drill a hole into your elbow, insert that little red plastic straw and squirt away! Your elbow will work much smoother.
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Sifo
Posted on Tuesday, August 02, 2011 - 08:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Gads,nobody uses WD-40?

That may help explain how I have a can of it that has lasted for so many years now way on the back of the shelf. It is designed to displace water and leave a film that protects from corrosion. You could make a worse choice of liquids to squirt into a lock cylinder. I didn't think anyone used 3 in 1 oil any more either, but apparently I'm wrong.
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Boliver
Posted on Tuesday, August 02, 2011 - 09:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I used wd-40 on my key then simply inserted it into the gas cap lock several times last year and I have had zero problems. No sure what all the discussion is about on this thread.....simple deal.
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Sifo
Posted on Tuesday, August 02, 2011 - 09:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sure you can use any old lube, but what's the best oil for my gas cap? Should I use a synthetic?
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