| Author | Message | ||
     Johnnylunchbox |
Read to the last line. http://roadracingworld.com/news/article/?article=4 5177 | ||
| Gunut75 |
This is gonna be AWESOME!!!!! | ||
| Natexlh1000 |
I see what you mean about that last line. I hope that means what we all think it means  | ||
| Trojan |
I think it means exactly what he says. Neither he nor anyone else has any data to compare against the Erik Buell Racing1190 yet, so he can only base his assumptions and plans against established data. And that means the inline 4 bikes currently at the front. Top 10 in AMA isn't really a huge or unrealistic aspiration for what is really a factory supported team though is it? The regular top 6-8 are top class teams/riders but after that there seems to be a big drop off in times, talent and budget it seems. If KTM don't make the top ten they should have a drastic rethink! | ||
| 86129squids |
His response to the quextion was concise... Still, them's fighting words fo sho!!! GO E*B*R RACING!!! I'm looking forward, hopefully, to read some enlightened moto-journalism about the 1190RS and the KTM this coming weekend... | ||
| Blackm2 |
Why must they remove one base gasket? What does that accomplish? | ||
| Etennuly |
Compression increase, moves the head and piston closer together. It will require higher octane levels than can be had from street gasoline. (Message edited by etennuly on July 08, 2011) | ||
| Blackm2 |
Thanks Vern, I actually knew that it increased compression, I guess the real question I meant to ask is how come only on one cylinder? | ||
| Redbuelljunkie |
Fight's on... http://roadracingworld.com/news/article/?article=4 5196 | ||
| Blake |
>>> I guess the real question I meant to ask is how come only on one cylinder? It's not just on one cylinder. It's just a typo or mis-speak. | ||
| Blake |
I'm with Matt. I don't see any fighting words in that. If anything, just a bit of dodging the question. | ||
| 86129squids |
"I'm with Matt. I don't see any fighting words in that. If anything, just a bit of dodging the question." Them's RACING words. Really, same as fighting, no? | ||
| Johnnylunchbox |
I was just having a little fun with it. Want to get people riled up for the race. | ||
| Natexlh1000 |
Dodging the question speaks louder than any verbal answer. They don't know what kind of threat Buell is yet. They aren't scared as much as just not knowing, I think. | ||
| Sifo |
This may be a bit blasphemous but... I was just in my local KTM dealer today and at $16K and change the RC8R is a heck of a bike. I don't normally care for pure sport bikes, but that's one of the most comfortable sport bikes I've sat on to boot. I'm certainly not trying to say it's equal to a $40K 1190, but you could buy a pair KTM's and have lot's of cash left for gas and tires. I hope they both do well this weekend. | ||
| Hybridmomentspass |
I dont think they care about the Erik Buell Racing machine, beating it doesnt prove a lot. I mean, thats just being honest. If they get a better track position than the 1190 it doesnt really speak anyhting that big, but if they do like they are saying - thinking about the performance of the I4s - then they are focusing on wins, the ultimate goal. And like someone else said - its not fighting words, its racing words. No one races to be 8th or something, you race to win, and thats what they are aiming for. | ||
| Blake |
Sifo, >>> I'm certainly not trying to say it's equal to a $40K 1190, but you could buy a pair KTM's and have lot's of cash left for gas and tires. Geez amigo, just the electronics package on the KTM goes for something like six figures. That is one very expensive racing machine; likely costing three times that of the 1190RR, it being equipped with nothing more than reduced thickness head gaskets, a race exhaust and chip. Well, they also had to downgrade the bodywork from CF to fiberglass. | ||
| Blake |
Owens, the newest spokesman for KTM. Seriously dude. You are one pontificating pontificator. KTM Factory racing, multiple World Champion KTM Factory racing being bested by Erik Buell Racing? Of no concern? HAH! That would be a HUGE thorn in their side. They will have trouble tolerating the shame. But it will happen. Heheheheh! Go Erik Buell Racing! Beat the KTM Factory team! | ||
| Ratbuell |
I read the last line as "we don't see Erik Buell Racing as a threat so we don't care about that comparison". I also wish the article had mentioned the Euro success of Pegasus Racing. KTM is "doing well over there"? What about 4 races, 4 poles, 4 wins for Pegasus? I can't wait till this weekend | ||
| Sifo |
Blake, I'm talking about the street versions, not the race versions. The street versions have a huge price difference, that I think can be pretty justified based on what you are getting. Either one would make a heck of a street bike though for all but the most aggressive street rider. Heck, if you are pushing that hard, should you be on the street? I'm not trying to rip on Erik Buell Racing at all, but let's face it, for most normal riders the KTM is one heck of a bike at a realistic price. For those willing to pay for an exotic (which I think the 1190 is at this point) more power to them. I'm just not sure that I would consider them a "normal" rider. | ||
| Court |
Word at the track is that you could buy roughly 10 1190's for the price of the KTM ..... No clue what's accurate but it sounds great. Kinda cool to see the Erik Buell Racing with a vin and manufacturers sticker on it. Very cool day..... | ||
| Blake |
Tom, KTM are not racing a street bike. EBR is racing the EBR street bike. >>> Either one would make a heck of a street bike though for all but the most aggressive street rider. The EBR 1190RS is a full blown street legal superbike racing machine. There does not exist a more aggressive production motorcycle for the street, anywhere. It just makes not much sense to compare the limited edition EBR superbike to the KTM, it's apples and oranges. When EBR releases their mass production version of the 1190 superbike, then meaningful comparisons will be possible. Until then we have the 1198cc Ducati 1098R superbike as the closest valid comparo. | ||
| Blake |
But I'd not dispute that the KTM is a good motorcycle. I'm sure enthused to see them entering Superbike racing in America. They've had plenty of time. What has it been, something like eight years to bring a bike to Superbike racing since they announced their intentions to do so? | ||
| Ratbuell |
Kinda cool to see the Erik Buell Racing with a vin and manufacturers sticker on it. Um...Court? PICTURES! PUH-LEEEEEEEZE!!!! | ||
| Kenm123t |
Rat we will get girls in boots pics We need to poke RKCO We need racing pics this weekend! | ||
| Boney95 |
May the best rider/bike win. Both are awesome bikes!! Let's fight the IL4's, us V-Twin peeps have to stick together. | ||
| Ridenusa4l |
Boney that could almost be read as "May, the best rider/bike win." Which would be subliminal messaging for your Geoff May support!...hahhaa...oh boy long night :P Jake | ||
| Sifo |
It just makes not much sense to compare the limited edition Erik Buell Racing superbike to the KTM, it's apples and oranges. Which is why in my first post I said "I'm certainly not trying to say it's equal to a $40K 1190". | ||
| Guell |
i think sifo was saying the street version of the ktm, not the race version... | ||
| Hybridmomentspass |
Blake, I want Erik Buell Racing to do well, i'd love to see them win a championship in about two years (sooner would be great, but im being realistic), get lots of podium finishes etc But the fact remains - if you want to win who do you aim to beat? Are you aiming for the 7-10th place guys? Or do you aim to beat the top guys? Face it, the Erik Buell Racing team, up til now, has been mid-pack at best. Yes, I know they are up against other factory teams with HUGE budgets and more years of experience developing the program, but that doesnt change the fact of where they place. Im not saying that May wont outride their rider and score higher positions, but that they arent racing to beat Erik Buell Racing, they have bigger fish to fry. They want more championships under their belt and they are looking past may and onto guys like Hayes. I am a racer, I dont aim to beat the guys that race one race a year and do poorly, I want to beat the national champs, the guys that are always at the top of the class. Thats what KTM was talking about. Blake youre a jerk. A huge jerk. You see anyone not speaking the absolute highest of Buell/Erik Buell Racing as a traitor, troll and all that other garbage,you want to berate them as much as possible. Its sickening. (Message edited by hybridmomentspass on July 09, 2011) |
